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Quote:Relax man

Donald and Vlad are tight

Donald and Bernie are friends?

Quote:i think he's kidding around. calm down. dont riot or something.

Hahaha....no answer? Ah man, just kidding around

Quote:Donald and Bernie are friends?

Bernie Mac? He isn't a communist. Any more than we are a democracy

Quote:Bernie Mac? He isn't a communist. Any more than we are a democracy

 

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Quote:Bernie Mac? He isn't a communist. Any more than we are a democracy

 

And you win the internet for the day!

Didn't know Mac was a communist too.. Must be something about the name Bernie..

Quote:Maybe arrest him and try him in one of them there NFL courtrooms?

If you can't substantiate that, why should I believe this ISIS allegation you allege?

It's ok lemmings...the cliff is near.

Lemmings?


One a signifigant portion of nfl stadiums do have holding cells dor potential arrests.


Second lemmings? When and where bruh?

Quote:Lemmings?

One a signifigant portion of nfl stadiums do have holding cells dor potential arrests.


Second lemmings? When and where bruh?

You said court rooms. Bruh

Quote:I would consider one candidate telling voters in Ohio to vote for another candidate to block someone as officially being unfairly treated.


In the small chance Trump doesn't get the nomination, I hope he uses this as fuel to run as an independent.

 

Quote:It seems like he's exaggerating and I honestly dont care. Still gets my vote over Hillary.

Well...IF he doesnt deport all illegals, stop muslim immigration, whip ISIS very quickly, have mexico pay for the wall ( that went 10 feet higher, but dont know the original height) and so on.....we'll just attribute it to exaggeration.

I want someone whose ideas are feasible, that wont have back lash. Although they are all full of piss, some of the rhetoric is hard to accept. 

For example..his plan to make mexico pay for the wall...it'll be through tariffs. That will increase prices. So its opposite of taxing people more, they will just pay more..and actually I dont mind paying more for home products, but wages will have to go up. Hes against that. So all this making everything great again is smoke and mirrors.

Id like a hybrid..one who will curtail worldwide handouts, Focus on America. Rand Paul was close. 

When I ask most people with families their concerns and priorities..many want a good education for their kids, health care that wont bankrupt them and decent paying jobs...more jobs at min wage dont mean squat

Actually, it seems like Trump and Sanders have more in common than Trump does with his own party...against the wars,for healthcare,education,against trade agreements..nafta,tpp..so he has some attributes that even Jerry Falwell Jr likes...and we all know how great he is

 

But you say you dont care, so with minds being made up a good half year before an election, why discuss any short comings a candidate may have? 

One thing few can argue. He has fractured the GOP ...badly.And whether I like the guy or not, what his own party is trying to do tells me where the big problem in DC is, and their actions are despicable and as dirty politics as Ive witnessed.

Many blame Sanders for the recent demonstrations at Trump rallies...uh huh...dont think the "establishment" who is out to take him down may be in on it as well? 

Quote:Truly enlightening. Truly some good ol Ted Cruz humor. That's your boy,innit?

No, that is actually what I heard someone say just a couple days ago. I may not have spelled it right, but I'm winging it on the ebonics.

Quote:Well...IF he doesnt deport all illegals, stop muslim immigration, whip ISIS very quickly, have mexico pay for the wall ( that went 10 feet higher, but dont know the original height) and so on.....we'll just attribute it to exaggeration.

I want someone whose ideas are feasible, that wont have back lash. Although they are all full of [BAD WORD REMOVED], some of the rhetoric is hard to accept. 

For example..his plan to make mexico pay for the wall...it'll be through tariffs. That will increase prices. So its opposite of taxing people more, they will just pay more..and actually I dont mind paying more for home products, but wages will have to go up. Hes against that. So all this making everything great again is smoke and mirrors.

Id like a hybrid..one who will curtail worldwide handouts, Focus on America. Rand Paul was close. 

When I ask most people with families their concerns and priorities..many want a good education for their kids, health care that wont bankrupt them and decent paying jobs...more jobs at min wage dont mean squat

Actually, it seems like Trump and Sanders have more in common than Trump does with his own party...against the wars,for healthcare,education,against trade agreements..nafta,tpp..so he has some attributes that even Jerry Falwell Jr likes...and we all know how great he is

 

But you say you dont care, so with minds being made up a good half year before an election, why discuss any short comings a candidate may have? 

One thing few can argue. He has fractured the GOP ...badly.And whether I like the guy or not, what his own party is trying to do tells me where the big problem in DC is, and their actions are despicable and as dirty politics as Ive witnessed.

Many blame Sanders for the recent demonstrations at Trump rallies...uh huh...dont think the "establishment" who is out to take him down may be in on it as well? 

 

For once, you and I pretty much agree about a lot of things.  As an example, the first bold part of your quoted post is what I've been trying to express now for a while.  Trump/Sanders supporters think that if their guy wins, all of the things that you listed (in the case of Trump) will happen.  In the case of Sanders supporters, they think that they will instantly get their "free stuff".  In my opinion, both campaigns are pretty much "Hope and Change v2.0".  It's all about what their supporters want to hear rather than a realistic vision for how they will lead the country.

 

Regarding the second part in bold of your comment, that is very much true up to the point that is underlined.  Donald Trump is not really part of the Republican Party, and doesn't really stand for traditional republican/conservative views.  Really, he is a democrat running as a republican.  He's not running because his core belief is "making America great again", he is running for the prestige that goes along with the title.  It's all about him, not the country.

 

I agree with you that yes, he has fractured the GOP, but where I disagree with you is that his "own party" is trying to take him down.  That's not the case at all.  I really do believe that the remaining GOP candidates really care about the country and want to actually SERVE the country and do what is best for all.

 

I do think that eventually Trump will go down and end up running as an independent.  I do acknowledge and believe that the right wing (GOP) will not allow him to "represent" their interests.  The same can be said about the left.  Hillary is going to be the nominee, whether or not Bernie Sanders continues to win states.  The "Super Delegates" will assure that.

 

It's going to get ugly, especially after tomorrow.

 

I've made it no secret that I have liked and supported Marco Rubio throughout this campaign.  I have also stated that Ted Cruz was a strong second choice of mine.  At this point, I would even back John Kasich as the representative for my party.  If the polling is correct and Rubio doesn't do well tomorrow, then my full support is behind Ted Cruz and/or John Kasich.  If it comes down to a Trump vs. Hillary or Trump vs. Bernie Sanders Presidential election, I probably for the first time will not vote because it would be the downfall of our country as I know it.

Quote:You said court rooms. Bruh

Then i said i misspoke bruh

Quote:If it comes down to a Trump vs. Hillary or Trump vs. Bernie Sanders Presidential election, I probably for the first time will not vote because it would be the downfall of our country as I know it.

Gary Johnson could use some votes. Just saying, we need a third party, and the Libertarian Party has the philosophy to do it.

Quote:Well...IF he doesnt deport all illegals, stop muslim immigration, whip ISIS very quickly, have mexico pay for the wall ( that went 10 feet higher, but dont know the original height) and so on.....we'll just attribute it to exaggeration.

I want someone whose ideas are feasible, that wont have back lash. Although they are all full of [BAD WORD REMOVED], some of the rhetoric is hard to accept. 

For example..his plan to make mexico pay for the wall...it'll be through tariffs. That will increase prices. So its opposite of taxing people more, they will just pay more..and actually I dont mind paying more for home products, but wages will have to go up. Hes against that. So all this making everything great again is smoke and mirrors.

Id like a hybrid..one who will curtail worldwide handouts, Focus on America. Rand Paul was close. 

When I ask most people with families their concerns and priorities..many want a good education for their kids, health care that wont bankrupt them and decent paying jobs...more jobs at min wage dont mean squat

Actually, it seems like Trump and Sanders have more in common than Trump does with his own party...against the wars,for healthcare,education,against trade agreements..nafta,tpp..so he has some attributes that even Jerry Falwell Jr likes...and we all know how great he is

 

But you say you dont care, so with minds being made up a good half year before an election, why discuss any short comings a candidate may have? 

One thing few can argue. He has fractured the GOP ...badly.And whether I like the guy or not, what his own party is trying to do tells me where the big problem in DC is, and their actions are despicable and as dirty politics as Ive witnessed.

Many blame Sanders for the recent demonstrations at Trump rallies...uh huh...dont think the "establishment" who is out to take him down may be in on it as well? 

 

Appreciate the tldr but I just meant I dont care he called some guy ISIS... not that I dont care about what some of his plans are.

Voting for Rubio or Cruz is voting for the same people who have been in power this whole time.  Seems stupid, but go ahead and cast a losing vote for that tool.

Quote:Voting for Rubio or Cruz is voting for the same people who have been in power this whole time.  Seems stupid, but go ahead and cast a losing vote for that tool.

Rubio yeah, but Cruz?! Last I'd heard, not a single GOP Senator has come out in favor of him, and that's knowing that door #2 is Trump. Ted Cruz has flaws, but being a veteran of the establishment is not one of them.

Quote:For once, you and I pretty much agree about a lot of things.  As an example, the first bold part of your quoted post is what I've been trying to express now for a while.  Trump/Sanders supporters think that if their guy wins, all of the things that you listed (in the case of Trump) will happen.  In the case of Sanders supporters, they think that they will instantly get their "free stuff".  In my opinion, both campaigns are pretty much "Hope and Change v2.0".  It's all about what their supporters want to hear rather than a realistic vision for how they will lead the country.

 

Regarding the second part in bold of your comment, that is very much true up to the point that is underlined.  Donald Trump is not really part of the Republican Party, and doesn't really stand for traditional republican/conservative views.  Really, he is a democrat running as a republican.  He's not running because his core belief is "making America great again", he is running for the prestige that goes along with the title.  It's all about him, not the country.

 

I agree with you that yes, he has fractured the GOP, but where I disagree with you is that his "own party" is trying to take him down.  That's not the case at all.  I really do believe that the remaining GOP candidates really care about the country and want to actually SERVE the country and do what is best for all.



 

I do think that eventually Trump will go down and end up running as an independent.  I do acknowledge and believe that the right wing (GOP) will not allow him to "represent" their interests.  The same can be said about the left.  Hillary is going to be the nominee, whether or not Bernie Sanders continues to win states.  The "Super Delegates" will assure that.

 

It's going to get ugly, especially after tomorrow.

 

I've made it no secret that I have liked and supported Marco Rubio throughout this campaign.  I have also stated that Ted Cruz was a strong second choice of mine.  At this point, I would even back John Kasich as the representative for my party.  If the polling is correct and Rubio doesn't do well tomorrow, then my full support is behind Ted Cruz and/or John Kasich.  If it comes down to a Trump vs. Hillary or Trump vs. Bernie Sanders Presidential election, I probably for the first time will not vote because it would be the downfall of our country as I know it.

What l meant by his own party, I didn't necessarily mean the candidates. Mainly the old guard, national review pundits,etc.

Quote:No, that is actually what I heard someone say just a couple days ago. I may not have spelled it right, but I'm winging it on the ebonics.

Oh. It's a black thing. Gotcha