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The guy has zero picks this past year. And three as a college career. How is he an elite corner again?

Shaq Lawson got moved up a bit as the need for what he can provide is by far the biggest need on the team now. If Ramsey/Jack are off the board I wouldn't even hate if Lawson was the pick over Bosa.

 

Ryan Kelly went from one of my favorite candidates at 38 to darn near must take if he's there (I know it's probably less than 50/50 that he is).

 

Round 3/real early day 3 ILB probability went up quite a bit I think. 

Quote:Yea makes since to draft a corner top 5 who doesn't already possess the skills needed to play corner at the next level.

I have a question for you.

Quote:The guy has zero picks this past year. And three as a college career. How is he an elite corner again?

Apparently because he is the NFL Combine champion. I'm fine with a team 1-4 picking him though as long as we get Myles Jack.

Quote:I have a question for you.

Do you choose the red pill or the blue pill?

Quote:Apparently because he is the NFL Combine champion. I'm fine with a team 1-4 picking him though as long as we get Myles Jack.

They compare him to Woodson 16 ints and lot 14 ints. Vs 3 how?

Quote:They compare him to Woodson 16 ints and lot 14 ints. Vs 3 how?

It's called crack...it's a helluva drug! If you want a more

Recent example of a beast look no further than Ed Reed. Beast at Miami.

Quote:Do you choose the red pill or the blue pill?

If you choose the blue pill you can carry on hating Jalen Ramsey,criticizing him at every chance you get and invariably will jump on him at his first sign of failure....or you can take the red pill,take a step back and realize teams will draft him high based on his tape/potential/physical traits/intangibles/production and be okay with it despite his very low amount of INTs...the choice is yours Solid Snake.

Quote:Apparently because he is the NFL Combine champion. I'm fine with a team 1-4 picking him though as long as we get Myles Jack.

I've asked you this before but I think you forgot to answer. You say Ramsey has no ball skills.


Who in this draft apart from VH3 and Fuller have more PDs in their college career than Ramsey?

Quote:I just don't understand the hate. He put up better numbers all the way round at the combine but Bosa's combine was great and Spence's was terrible?


He may fall to us, Randy Gregory fell to the end of the 2nd last year, though his issues were closer to draft time than Spence's.


At the end of the day though, we coached him at the SB, Gus knows what he has, if Spence is a guy we want, they'll go get him.

Bosas combine was much better than spences

Quote:I've asked you this before but I think you forgot to answer. You say Ramsey has no ball skills.


Who in this draft apart from VH3 and Fuller have more PDs in their college career than Ramsey?

Ramsey does but that still doesn't make him better playing the ball in the air, or defending the ball when it's behind him. Because of that he would get eaten alive at corner especially against smaller shifter WRs. Therefore, he needs to safety so the ball stays in front of him, but the comparisons to Woodson and Lott are pretty ridiculous.

Easiest question of the day.

 

The exact answer is 32.

Quote:Ramsey does but that still doesn't make him better playing the ball in the air, or defending the ball when it's behind him. Because of that he would get eaten alive at corner especially against smaller shifter WRs. Therefore, he needs to safety so the ball stays in front of him, but the comparisons to Woodson and Lott are pretty ridiculous.

So you admit he could be a good player in the NFL at safety? Yeah they are ridiculous.

Quote:Bosas combine was much better than spences

How? Spence was faster, more reps, higher/longer jumps. Bosa was faster in the 3 cone and 20 yard shuttle.


Wouldn't say he was "much better"

Quote:I just don't understand the hate. He put up better numbers all the way round at the combine but Bosa's combine was great and Spence's was terrible?


He may fall to us, Randy Gregory fell to the end of the 2nd last year, though his issues were closer to draft time than Spence's.


At the end of the day though, we coached him at the SB, Gus knows what he has, if Spence is a guy we want, they'll go get him.

Easy.

 

Everybody already knew Bosa wasn't going to test out very well. Nobody expected him to blow the doors off the gym.

 

Everybody had far higher expectations for Spence's numbers. People thought he was more explosive than what he showed at the combine.

 

Bosa put up numbers that people expected at the combine. Spence put up numbers that weren't expected (and not in a good way). Which is why it was disappointing.

 

Plus, there was also rumors that Spence may not have interviewed very well at the combine.

What I'm concerned about with Spence is that not one single GM or Head coach showed up at his pro day. This may bode well for us if we do like him, though because we had him for a week. I'm thinking he will be there at our 2nd round pick.

Quote:I've asked you this before but I think you forgot to answer. You say Ramsey has no ball skills.


Who in this draft apart from VH3 and Fuller have more PDs in their college career than Ramsey?

 

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Quote:No, I just think Hargreaves covers better and makes more plays. Hargreaves had more picks this year than Ramsey had in his career. How do you get Gator fan after saying Ramsey is the best player in the draft? I also think Tom Brady is the best player in the league. Doesn't make me a Patriots fan.

I also am not a gators fan. And he has more int in one season then Ramsey combined college carreer.


For some reason to the entire NFL that does not matter. To me it does. The turn over battle decides games.

Quote:The turn over battle decides games.

 

Carolina's turnover ratio last year: +20

 

Denver's:  -4

 

(turnovers are still a big deal, but folks are running wild with Ramsey's INT number - you have to remember he wasn't playing the CB role much of the time he was on the field)

He also dropped at least 10 ints.


We draft him and he does that and watch people call for hus head.