Reaching for players in the draft is one of the best ways to be terrible for a long time. The draft is loaded with pass rushers, tight ends, safeties, and corner backs, and it's weak on the O-line - so why in the heck would you want to avoid the obvious talent and reach for lesser players?
The best way to improve our O-Line is to have a much better O-Line coach than we have had over the last couple of years. Since he is head coach now we can have this.
Quote:Bro, we just became best friends. A good QB who can slide or move the pocket and get the ball out on quick reads fixes literally everything.
Kurt Warner did this with the Cardinals. They were a nobody until he arrived.
Exactly.
Quote:Bro, we just became best friends. A good QB who can slide or move the pocket and get the ball out on quick reads fixes literally everything.
Kurt Warner did this with the Cardinals. They were a nobody until he arrived.
Bro, you want to be best friends with someone who can't write a complete sentence or use punctuation right? LOL. The offense of lineman need to play better despite who's back there at QB but that doesn't fit your narrative troll because you hate Blake just that much as a person. Sometimes, it's hard to take people like you seriously when you have these agendas like a jilted lover.
Quote:Bro, you want to be best friends with someone who can't write a complete sentence or use punctuation right? LOL. The offense of lineman need to play better despite who's back there at QB but that doesn't fit your narrative troll because you hate Blake just that much as a person. Sometimes, it's hard to take people like you seriously when you have these agendas like a jilted lover.
I see you never bothered to re-visit to the "are you a believer in Blake bortles" thread. 66% yes to 33% no, in case you were wondering, Mrs. Bort. Your theory that everyone hates your hubby doesn't hold any water anymore, Mrs. Bort.
Quote: In a draft filled with defensive talent and weak olinemen your going to spend 3 of your first 4 picks on oline? no thanks
just to add to your post, and starting the season with 3 rookies on the OL isn't the greatest idea either
Nothing "simple" about fixing anything in the NFL. If it were you would have different teams winning that Superbowl every year more consistently. Some teams have it figured out better than others and have their processes down to a science.
Others, well, you know how it goes. But you can't just assume or expect this team to go offensive line three or four times during the draft. The players they want may or may not be there at that position of need and you should never settle for some player just because he's there and fits that need unless you envision him being a main stay for years to come.
Based on this year's draft class. The offensive lineman have been declared pretty weak. But you can find some solid players to solidify the right side of your protection if needed. Realistically speaking at this point you'd have to hope for this team to trade down in RD1 to pick-up a RT like Garrett Bolles or Antonio Garcia. And then in RD2 try to hope that Forrest Lamp or Dan Feeney are there. RD3 you might get lucky and land Dion Dawkins.
It's just a lot of iffs with what you're trying to accomplish in this scenario. And a lot of it would depend on a trade more than likely.
Ya need a elite qb. Without that, line won't matter. This is not running backs game no longer.
That is why Brady wins like forever. He is great at what he does.
Quote:Bro, you want to be best friends with someone who can't write a complete sentence or use punctuation right? LOL. The offense of lineman need to play better despite who's back there at QB but that doesn't fit your narrative troll because you hate Blake just that much as a person. Sometimes, it's hard to take people like you seriously when you have these agendas like a jilted lover.
One more comment like that. Going on my ignore list. With the others who bash with no substance.
Draft and develop.
EVERY year you draft at least one OL and bring in some priority UFA to compete.
EVERY year you add talent and numbers to the competition.
Quote:Draft and develop.
EVERY year you draft at least one OL and bring in some priority UFA to compete.
EVERY year you add talent and numbers to the competition.
It should be that easy. But the draft is like running a business.
Ya can look at resumes, call references, see certifications, spend time training them.
But at end of day they either Come in prepared and ready to be apart of the business. Or just there to collect paycheck.
Quote:Ya need a elite qb. Without that, line won't matter. This is not running backs game no longer.
That is why Brady wins like forever. He is great at what he does.
How many Brady's are out there just waiting to be discovered?
Even the almighty Tom got hammered pretty good a few times last year. A moderately good QB can have success behind a decent offensive line with a strong running game backing him up. Thank God Coughlin understands this. He won two rings without an elite QB on the field.
Keep holding out hope for your unicorn QB behind a line with three rookies. That has championship written all over it.
Quote:Ya need a elite qb. Without that, line won't matter. This is not running backs game no longer.
That is why Brady wins like forever. He is great at what he does.
Tom Brady became what he is behind good offensive lines. How many young promising quarterbacks have we seen come into the league behind 5 turnstyle offensive lineman and they are beat to hell and broken in a couple years? David Carr is the most obvious one to me, but we see it often. I don't see any Tom Brady's or Mannings in this draft, it's not easy to upgrade that position.
I see what you're saying though. An exceptional QB can compensate for poor line play by moving well within the pocket, but how many rookie quarterbacks are exceptional--I would say 1-2 every 10 years.
This draft is so deep at other positions and so weak at o-line.
If they draft three linemen I'd lose all faith in this organization.
Quote:This draft is so deep at other positions and so weak at o-line.
If they draft three linemen I'd lose all faith in this organization.
Just because the O-Line class is bad as a whole, doesn't means there isn't good players to be had on the O-Line. I'd be perfectly happy with three O-Linemen in this draft. We should be able to land a starting OG in the 2nd round, I would like a developmental OT somewhere in the draft to immediately compete with Prnell at RT and a developmental OG/OT with one of our last two picks to add much needed depth on the interior. The
LAST thing I wanna see is us going into the season with Albert at LT and the rest of the O-Line remaining as it was last year. That would be pointless. I want a starting OG and some competition at the other positions. Just because we would draft three O-linemen, doesn't mean we would ignore other areas. We have 8 total draft picks. We could still address RB, DE, TE, CB and QB. To me, if we drafted players at those positions with the addition of three O-Linemen, I'd be pretty happy.
the guard class isnt weak imo
its really just a weak year for left tackles
Quote:Just because the O-Line class is bad as a whole, doesn't means there isn't good players to be had on the O-Line. I'd be perfectly happy with three O-Linemen in this draft. We should be able to land a starting OG in the 2nd round, I would like a developmental OT somewhere in the draft to immediately compete with Prnell at RT and a developmental OG/OT with one of our last two picks to add much needed depth on the interior. The LAST thing I wanna see is us going into the season with Albert at LT and the rest of the O-Line remaining as it was last year. That would be pointless. I want a starting OG and some competition at the other positions. Just because we would draft three O-linemen, doesn't mean we would ignore other areas. We have 8 total draft picks. We could still address RB, DE, TE, CB and QB. To me, if we drafted players at those positions with the addition of three O-Linemen, I'd be pretty happy.
I've advocated over and over taking a guard in the second. I think that would be a wise move.
I just don't want to waste value by taking 3 OL in the first 5 picks.
There are much bettter players at other positions to be had IMO.
Quote:The LAST thing I wanna see is us going into the season with Albert at LT and the rest of the O-Line remaining as it was last year.
Doesn't sound like you have been listening to the team interviews then. Dave and Doug are happy with 4/5 of the oline as it is right now.
Quote:Doesn't sound like you have been listening to the team interviews then. Dave and Doug are happy with 4/5 of the oline as it is right now.
C'mon.
You know presser talk in March is pretty meaningless - especially if you are looking for them to bad mouth their roster/ tip their draft hand.
Quote:C'mon.
You know presser talk in March is pretty meaningless - especially if you are looking for them to bad mouth their roster/ tip their draft hand.
Exactly.