Quote:1 the latest fair tax which is a consumption tax replaced all federal taxes, that's income taxes, capital gain taxes, death taxes ect... With a 23% sales tax on new items only. It's an embedded tax so you go to the store item x is $100 at the register its $100 because the 23% is already on the price tag. The flat Tax is completely different its still collected from your paycheck except everyone regardless of income or deductions pays the same rate.
Canada isn't a fair or flat Tax country they tax income like we do and then have an additional consumption tax we call that double taxation here.
Thanks. I did look it up. At least Fair Tax then had to cook dinner. I also briefly looked up VAT, or value added tax, as this is something I experienced when I lived in Germany. It's also a consumption tax. I'd forgotten about it as I've been back in the States since 2003. The Germans, and I assume all Europeans, get their income taxed and have to pay taxes on what they buy. I don't remember off the top of my head if VAT is a higher rate like 20% or just normal type tax like we already have here. I didn't have time to read everything about it.
I know in NC every category of something is taxed at a different rate. Food is taxed a different rate than say paper towels. Alcohol is taxed higher than anything. They tax the crap out of us here. I think if they could they would come into our homes and tax us on the amount of furniture we have. A few months ago I posted about a bill trying to pass that said people could tax us on labor. So when I take my truck in to get the tires rotated and balanced they could charge us for the labor. New tires they would charge and tax us on the cost of the tires then charge and tax us on the labor to install. I don't know what happened to that bill but if it ever passes I'm gonna be a bit perturbed.
Quote:Thanks. I did look it up. At least Fair Tax then had to cook dinner. I also briefly looked up VAT, or value added tax, as this is something I experienced when I lived in Germany. It's also a consumption tax. I'd forgotten about it as I've been back in the States since 2003. The Germans, and I assume all Europeans, get their income taxed and have to pay taxes on what they buy. I don't remember off the top of my head if VAT is a higher rate like 20% or just normal type tax like we already have here. I didn't have time to read everything about it.
I know in NC every category of something is taxed at a different rate. Food is taxed a different rate than say paper towels. Alcohol is taxed higher than anything. They tax the crap out of us here. I think if they could they would come into our homes and tax us on the amount of furniture we have. A few months ago I posted about a bill trying to pass that said people could tax us on labor. So when I take my truck in to get the tires rotated and balanced they could charge us for the labor. New tires they would charge and tax us on the cost of the tires then charge and tax us on the labor to install. I don't know what happened to that bill but if it ever passes I'm gonna be a bit perturbed.
Just wait for the milage tax that's coming. In short very soon there's plans to have GPS hooked up to every car and you pay taxes based on how many miles you drive each year on your registration
Quote:Thanks. I did look it up. At least Fair Tax then had to cook dinner. I also briefly looked up VAT, or value added tax, as this is something I experienced when I lived in Germany. It's also a consumption tax. I'd forgotten about it as I've been back in the States since 2003. The Germans, and I assume all Europeans, get their income taxed and have to pay taxes on what they buy. I don't remember off the top of my head if VAT is a higher rate like 20% or just normal type tax like we already have here. I didn't have time to read everything about it.
I know in NC every category of something is taxed at a different rate. Food is taxed a different rate than say paper towels. Alcohol is taxed higher than anything. They tax the crap out of us here. I think if they could they would come into our homes and tax us on the amount of furniture we have. A few months ago I posted about a bill trying to pass that said people could tax us on labor. So when I take my truck in to get the tires rotated and balanced they could charge us for the labor. New tires they would charge and tax us on the cost of the tires then charge and tax us on the labor to install. I don't know what happened to that bill but if it ever passes I'm gonna be a bit perturbed.
Be happy you're not in England. The BBC has the legal right to charge people for having a TV plugged in to the wall, and they have "inspectors" that visit your house to have a look inside if you don't pay anything or claim it doesn't apply to you.
Quote:Just wait for the milage tax that's coming. In short very soon there's plans to have GPS hooked up to every car and you pay taxes based on how many miles you drive each year on your registration
Oh hell no. If they want to do that to folks who drive fuel efficient cars or those Prius things, go right ahead. Leave my non-fuel efficient Chevy Silverado driving self alone. And we don't have public transportation here.
Quote:Be happy you're not in England. The BBC has the legal right to charge people for having a TV plugged in to the wall, and they have "inspectors" that visit your house to have a look inside if you don't pay anything or claim it doesn't apply to you.
IIRC there are inspectors in Germany who do the same thing once a year. They go in your house and see how much furniture you have and tax you on it. I remember seeing stuff outside people's homes and asked someone what it was all about and I think that's what it was.
Quote:IIRC there are inspectors in Germany who do the same thing once a year. They go in your house and see how much furniture you have and tax you on it. I remember seeing stuff outside people's homes and asked someone what it was all about and I think that's what it was.
Wardrobes are popular in Germany because houses are taxed by the number of rooms, including closets.
Quote:Except trump isn't for lowering taxes. His plan on not taxing income under 50k isn't much different than what you have now. He actually raises taxes on the top bracket to compensate for the lower income threshold. Then you consider his proposal of tarriffs on China and Mexico that's a tax on the consumer. The retailer's don't absorb the cost it'll be past down at the point of sale. He's not advocating any changes to Medicare or Medicaid so he kicks the can down the road on the biggest funding liability we have. Damn it im talking myself out of voting for him again.
I want to say I'll vote for any Republican over Hillary. But damn it trump or rubio is going to make it real hard for me to not write in the libertarians option.
I have heard the libertarians are gonna put McAfee up(as in the guy who did the antivirus) I am not sure I would vote for him even as a former registered libertarian (independant now so I can vote in primaries). He is pretty much crazy and not in a good way. Either way I look it up before doing it. I pride myself on voting for canidates I like rather than those who I think 'have a chance' of winning (for instance I voted for Ben Carson on super tuesday knowing full well that he would prob lose). But McAfee is basically a crazier/poorer version of Trump. Actually much crazier, go read his wiki page. Either way up to you, but I would look at who the parties are putting up before voting.
Quote:I have heard the libertarians are gonna put McAfee up(as in the guy who did the antivirus) I am not sure I would vote for him even as a former registered libertarian (independant now so I can vote in primaries). He is pretty much crazy and not in a good way. Either way I look it up before doing it. I pride myself on voting for canidates I like rather than those who I think 'have a chance' of winning (for instance I voted for Ben Carson on super tuesday knowing full well that he would prob lose). But McAfee is basically a crazier/poorer version of Trump. Actually much crazier, go read his wiki page. Either way up to you, but I would look at who the parties are putting up before voting.
The libertarians convention is in may most likely Gary Johnson will get the nomination again he has the most name recognition and history of success. He's a little socially liberal for me but fiscally he's brilliant.
Quote:The libertarians convention is in may most likely Gary Johnson will get the nomination again he has the most name recognition and history of success. He's a little socially liberal for me but fiscally he's brilliant.
I particularly like that he's liberal on social issues and conservative on financial ones. Meshes with my own feelings pretty well, actually.
Quote:I particularly like that he's liberal on social issues and conservative on financial ones. Meshes with my own feelings pretty well, actually.
I've soften on the social issues, the one that still gets under my skin is the abortion. But there's bigger fish to fry, at least libertarians mostly support kicking it back to the states. I'm pretty socially liberal on marriage equality I just don't want it shoved down my throat, I'm socially liberal on narcotics, probably a little extreme, since I'm for decriminalizing all of them. Live and let live has become my social policy, honestly what does it matter if we don't get the economy fixed it's all down hill. Give me anyone Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, Green Party, whatever that's for rolling back civil liberty violations and reducing the bloated budget.
Quote:I particularly like that he's liberal on social issues and conservative on financial ones. Meshes with my own feelings pretty well, actually.
A true libertarian will be exactly as you described in the sense that they do not regulate morality. However, being pro small government libertarians don't advocate for some 'liberal' social issues like welfare or medicare (in a liberatation world those would be all gone). The principle is that the government should only be involved in things that actually require a government like the army, prison, making roads, etc. Almost all liberatarian candidates want to end all foreign bases and withdraw from any war in which we are the aggressors (i.e. war only for defense, NOT world policing).
Of course you can't just cut out social security and medicare at this point. People paid into those programs their whole life, they deserve whatever they put in back. But our government is determined to simply steal from the population by 'adjusting' consumer price index and claiming that its cheaper to live than it really is. This allows them to decrease the payments for social security without actually 'voting' against it. Similar to how inflation is actually a tax that doesn't get 'voted' on. Anyway I could go way deep into the rabit hole there, but its not really what the topics about.
I think Cruz has officially emerged as the 'anti-trump' for the republicans. Only two more weeks till Trump and Cruz are the only options.
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I think Cruz has officially emerged as the 'anti-trump' for the republicans. Only two more weeks till Trump and Cruz are the only options.
It is funny that Cruz has mostly the same position as Donald Trump on many policies, but is considered the "alternative". I admit that Cruz is the more safe candidate considering he is most familiar with previous presidential nominees in that he is a lawyer, owned by special interests, and speaks well. There are four major items that will keep me from voting Ted Cruz,
1. Support of TPA/TPP.
2. Christian Zealotry and welcoming support of religious leaders who support murdering gays (where is the media on this?).
3. Special interest donors in big oil and big banking.
4. Only related experience in any sort of major political/leadership position is 2 years in the Senate.
If it is brokered convention and/or Cruz is somehow the nominee, I will write in Jim Webb or Donald Trump.
If Rubio drops out, and endorses Cruz, does that put him above Trump? Or do his delegates go somewhere else? I've never quite understood how that works.
Quote:It is funny that Cruz has mostly the same position as Donald Trump on many policies, but is considered the "alternative". I admit that Cruz is the more safe candidate considering he is most familiar with previous presidential nominees in that he is a lawyer, owned by special interests, and speaks well. There are four major items that will keep me from voting Ted Cruz,
1. Support of TPA/TPP.
2. Christian Zealotry and welcoming support of religious leaders who support murdering gays (where is the media on this?).
3. Special interest donors in big oil and big banking.
4. Only related experience in any sort of major political/leadership position is 2 years in the Senate.
If it is brokered convention and/or Cruz is somehow the nominee, I will write in Jim Webb or Donald Trump.
What? Cruz votes for the authority vote he didnt vote for the tpp. And what the hell are talking about murdering gays? If he was owned by big oil why did he refuse to support ethonal subsides?
Quote:What? Cruz votes for the authority vote he didnt vote for the tpp. And what the hell are talking about murdering gays? If he was owned by big oil why did he refuse to support ethonal subsides?
1. The authority is what ensures TPP is passed by lowering the required votes. He doesn't even have to vote for or against TPP for it to pass at this point. He supports TPP EXCEPT for the I/E banks, which is only a portion of TPP. He supports the rest. He gets his TPP without having his name on the vote for support. Good for him. Very calculating.
2. Not only gays, but Jews too apparently.
2a.
http://www.christianpost.com/news/god-se...or-157697/
2b.
http://www.latimes.com/opinion/topofthet...story.html
3. He is against ethanol subsidies BECAUSE he is a big oil snake. Ethanol is bad for the oil and gas industries. The less efficient oil and gas is, the more it will sell. Ethanol is an enemy of big oil. I am not a supporter of Ethanol, but I am definitely not a supporter of big oil puppets.
Cruz's social conservative stance alone guarantees he could never win a general election.
Quote:1. The authority is what ensures TPP is passed by lowering the required votes. He doesn't even have to vote for or against TPP for it to pass at this point. He supports TPP EXCEPT for the I/E banks, which is only a portion of TPP. He supports the rest. He gets his TPP without having his name on the vote for support. Good for him. Very calculating.
2. Not only gays, but Jews too apparently.
2a. http://www.christianpost.com/news/god-se...or-157697/
2b. http://www.latimes.com/opinion/topofthet...story.html
3. He is against ethanol subsidies BECAUSE he is a big oil snake. Ethanol is bad for the oil and gas industries. The less efficient oil and gas is, the more it will sell. Ethanol is an enemy of big oil. I am not a supporter of Ethanol, but I am definitely not a supporter of big oil puppets.
Cruz's social conservative stance alone guarantees he could never win a general election.
2. Backing your argument with a link to a blog with a bunch of annoying pop-ups doesn't help your case. Linking to an OP-ED in the LA Times as you second "source" isn't exactly factual either (it's slightly above political blogs). Also, faith should not be a part of the vetting process. The thing is, both of your "sources" doesn't conclude that he is for or against anything. The only thing that your "sources" kind of confirm is that certain people endorsed him and he accepted.
3. Being against ethanol subsidies is not a bad thing. Ethanol should go away since it's harmful to engines, especially 2 stroke engines (common in boat motors, weed eaters, chain saws, etc.). Get rid of the subsidies, and the farmer is left to decide. Grow (non-edible) corn for ethanol, or grow corn for consumption? Ethanol is a failed "green alternative" to fossil fuels. Why do you think that there are not as many "Flex Fuel" vehicles being manufactured today?
So let's take a look at some of the things that came up in the latest debate, such as
Trump University and his alleged claim that the "grade" from the BBB was an A. It looks to me like it was just a scam, and he lied about some of his "facts". There is a class action lawsuit against him regarding this which he claims that he "could settle" right now. If "settling" is an option, does that flag it as an honest business? In my opinion, he is going to wait until a judgement comes out, he'll pay out the original money that many people lost, and will still be ahead because of where that money has been invested over the years. In other words, he can "settle" and pay out the money that people wasted, and still make a profit.
The bottom line is, Trump is really no different in Hillary when it comes to honesty.
Quote:If Rubio drops out, and endorses Cruz, does that put him above Trump? Or do his delegates go somewhere else? I've never quite understood how that works.
Delegates don't transfer, IIRC. It would just be Rubio saying, "Hey, people who support me, go vote for Ted because his vision is the closest one left to my own."
Quote:1. The authority is what ensures TPP is passed by lowering the required votes. He doesn't even have to vote for or against TPP for it to pass at this point. He supports TPP EXCEPT for the I/E banks, which is only a portion of TPP. He supports the rest. He gets his TPP without having his name on the vote for support. Good for him. Very calculating.
2. Not only gays, but Jews too apparently.
2a. http://www.christianpost.com/news/god-se...or-157697/
2b. http://www.latimes.com/opinion/topofthet...story.html
3. He is against ethanol subsidies BECAUSE he is a big oil snake. Ethanol is bad for the oil and gas industries. The less efficient oil and gas is, the more it will sell. Ethanol is an enemy of big oil. I am not a supporter of Ethanol, but I am definitely not a supporter of big oil puppets.
Cruz's social conservative stance alone guarantees he could never win a general election.
Did you read the articles you linked? The 1st one the pastor is clarifying that he is NOT calling for Jews to be murdered that he is calling for Americans to stand with Israel in the coming persecution. It's a little to close to the COC but to say he's calling for the murder of Jews is completely 100% false.
secondly you'd be hard pressed to find any religious institution that isn't anti-gay, just about all of them teach it's "sinful" or wrong. So it's a pretty stupid notion to try and crucify a politician being backed by a religious teacher teaching religious philosophy.
I find it funny this is what sticks for you with Cruz but you completely ignore some of Trumps more horrendous social polices, such as supporting Planned Parenthood, advocating torture, supporting government being able to force private enterprise to create software at their expense against their will to modify products (the apple controversy), Trumps lack of respect for the disabled, his lack of respect for really anyone.