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Quote:Can you really call one season a "turn around" yet? Well...YOU can, but then you call sleep overs at a high school kids house normal, so I'm thinking you're not the person to ask.

 

You don't think he has turned Michigan around?

Quote:You don't think he has turned Michigan around?

Again, is one season enough to go by?

Quote:Again, is one season enough to go by?

 

He exceeded expectations on the field in year 1. Off the field changes are big, too, considering how much better the atmosphere is now.

 

In 2014, Michigan went 5-7 and was a laughing stock losing to teams like Maryland and Rutgers.

 

In 2015, Michigan went 10-3 and finished as the #12  team despite starting the season unranked.

 

In 2016, Michigan will start with their highest preseason ranking since Lloyd Carr was coaching.

 

 

 

Can you explain to me how that isn't turning things around?

Quote:He exceeded expectations on the field in year 1. Off the field changes are big, too, considering how much better the atmosphere is now.

 

In 2014, Michigan went 5-7 and was a laughing stock losing to teams like Maryland and Rutgers.

 

In 2015, Michigan went 10-3 and finished as the #12  team despite starting the season unranked.

 

In 2016, Michigan will start with their highest preseason ranking since Lloyd Carr was coaching.

 

 

 Can you explain to me how that isn't turning things around?

Brady Hokes first year he went 11-2 after Rodriquez' 7-6 last season. Where's Hoke coaching now..after turning Michiagan around? Or just maybe one season is too early to gage anything unless you're reading all the Harbaugh hype.

Quote:Brady Hokes first year he went 11-2 after Rodriquez' 7-6 last season. Where's Hoke coaching now..after turning Michiagan around? Or just maybe one season is too early to gage anything unless you're reading all the Harbaugh hype.

 

He didn't change the atmosphere the way Harbaugh has. Like I said, difference between Harbaugh and Hoke goes far beyond their year 1 records. The change in player attitudes and atmosphere is night and day.

 

Hoke was an easy-going, jolly, father figure. He was a pat you on the back kind of guy. That showed up on the field. Michigan teams were soft under both Rich Rod and Hoke.

 

Harbaugh is a get-in-your-face guy that you work your butt off for or you sit. That showed up on the field. Michigan was back to being tough and playing with swagger.

 

 

Not to mention that Harbaugh is a significantly better coach in terms of X's and O's, though shouldn't really be debatable. I can see how someone who doesn't watch a lot of Michigan games doesn't realize how much different the atmosphere is, though.

What makes you think that Harbaugh hasn't turned Michigan around? Do you think 2015 was a fluke? Do you expect regression?

Quote:What makes you think that Harbaugh hasn't turned Michigan around? Do you think 2015 was a fluke? Do you expect regression?

Sorry...I was too busy looking for where I said he for sure hasn't turned the team around. Guess I missed that post of mine. Asking if you can pronounce a program turned around after one season is not that same as saying he hasn't. He may have turned the program around, he may not have, I'm not willing to make that judgment call on any first year coach, no matter what the program is.


Every question is not a criticism, no matter how hard you try to make it out to be...

Quote:Sorry...I was too busy looking for where I said he for sure hasn't turned the team around. Guess I missed that post of mine. Asking if you can pronounce a program turned around after one season is not that same as saying he hasn't. He may have turned the program around, he may not have, I'm not willing to make that judgment call on any first year coach, no matter what the program is.


Every question is not a criticism, no matter how hard you try to make it out to be...

 

Yes, I think that it's fair to say Harbaugh has turned Michigan around.

Quote:Yes, I think that it's fair to say Harbaugh has turned Michigan around.

I'm sure you'd think it would be.

Quote:I'm sure you'd think it would be.

 

I'm sure many would agree that Harbaugh has turned Michigan around.

Pretty good ESPN article covering both angles of the turnaround discussion.

 

http://espn.go.com/college-football/stor...m-harbaugh

 

 

 

"Few coaches have taken over a traditional winner that had lost its way and then turned it around immediately: Gus Malzahn at Auburn, going from 3-9 in 2012 to the BCS National Championship in 2013. Brady Hoke, Harbaugh's predecessor, went 11-2 in 2011. His success had no staying power, and Malzahn's Tigers lost a string of five straight SEC games before Thursday night's win over Kentucky.

 

Yet Michigan feels different, permanent, an adjective that hasn't been applied to Harbaugh as he has jumped from the University of San Diego to Stanford to the San Francisco 49ers. But then Harbaugh had never returned home. He had never returned to a program where he didn't have to take the existing structure down to its foundation. The structure has been here since Schembechler built it in that feverish year of 1969. Ohio State was the defending national champion that year, too, with a team that featured so many returning starters that the Buckeyes were considered shoo-ins to win again."

Quote:Seems like it's all a mute point now irregardless if they could care less.

 

http://espn.go.com/college-football/stor...mmediately

 

The DOJ is looking into the ban.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nca.../83506978/

 

 

Also, the ban can be reversed when is revisited in two day (4/28). With how much backlash the NCAA got for the ban, it wouldn't shock me to see it reversed.

I don't think anything could turn this embarrassing thread around.

Quote:I don't think anything could turn this embarrassing thread around.

 

Certainly not you. Quick, make a rapist joke and try.

Former Michigan (and Florida) defensive coordinator, now Maryland HC, on Harbaugh:

 

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/.../83593792/

 

"When I first got there, it was like, oh my gosh,” Durkin told Pete Thamel of SI. ‘Then you finally spend more time with Jim. The guy is really smart. Extremely smart. Everything is for a reason, but he loves chaos. That's just how he operates. He loves confrontation, chaos, conflict. He doesn't want it to be everyone comfortable, this is the schedule. He just loves throwing a wrench in the works.


“So, when you first get there, it's like, what's going on? But it was great. To see someone impose their will, their confidence, their vision on a program, to totally change it — total 180. Stanford was known as a soft, academic, wine-sipping program. Now it's the total opposite. He definitely imposed his will on the place.”

 

 

Sounds like Durkin believes Harbaugh changed the culture at Michigan and turned things around.

@Mansell247: "Hearing from multiple sources that looks like Satellite Camps will be reversed. Believe a final answer could be by Friday.."

Quote:Certainly not you. Quick, make a rapist joke and try.

 

Oh...

 



I certain that you truly do believe this thread has value of some kind.  To each their own.

 

Obviously.

Quote:Oh...

 



I certain that you truly do believe this thread has value of some kind.  To each their own.

 

Obviously.

 

lolol. Did you seriously just post that image?

 

 

hahahaha.




 

 

 

You're the real MVP, pirkster.

This guy just took a screenshot of his profile to try and brag about someone like a post of his.

 

 

 

hahahahaha.

 

 

 

Make sure you put that on your fridge. People are going to be so proud of you.

Kind like what you're doing with this thread.

 

Bravo.  You do get it sometimes.

 

Even when you don't.