Quote:Explain, in detail.
If he had put his millions in the market he would be a billionaire anyway. Not to metion the huge price rises in real estate. He would just be another nobody if he was born into a normal family. No real skills just turned lots of money into lots more money by riding the markets. You could have done it and so could I just simple Compounding interest.
What are the great businesses that Trump has run that makes him a guru?
Quote:So you know Democrats who support Cruz/Trump/Rubio? Really? Funny democrats then.
Actually yes. I have some family members who are life-long Democrats that are saying they like Marco Rubio the most out of the bunch.
Quote:Early polls indicate that the Democrats (and more specifically Bernie Sanders) would defeat any of the Republican hopefuls in a head to head Presidential election.
<a class="bbc_url" href='http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/presidential-campaign/259812-in-new-shock-poll-sanders-has-landslides-over-both'>http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/presidential-campaign/259812-in-new-shock-poll-sanders-has-landslides-over-both</a>
<a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-goodman/bernie-sanders-defeats-trump-by-a-wider-margin_b_8345156.html'>http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-goodman/bernie-sanders-defeats-trump-by-a-wider-margin_b_8345156.html</a>
<a class="bbc_url" href='http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/MSNBC/Sections/A_Politics/15564%20NBCWSJ%20December%20Poll%20(AM%2012-14-15%20Release).pdf'>http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/MSNBC/Sections/A_Politics/15564%20NBCWSJ%20December%20Poll%20(AM%2012-14-15%20Release).pdf</a>
<a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_sanders-5565.html'>http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_sanders-5565.html</a>
I don't want Clinton or Sanders to win, but clearly welfare is a very powerful incentive for some people in this country.
You would think most of those people learned their lesson 7 years ago voting for Barry.
95% of black people who vote vote democrat. 95% of black people don't rely on welfare. 95% of black people have been told that Republicans are really just klansman who want to hang them.
I say this as a black republican. I cried when Florida was put into Bush's column in 2000. I didn't sleep for three days. I embarked on a personal mission to destroy they guy. I was going to listen to every word he said to help fuel my efforts to volunteer and campaign for his challenger in 2004.
I watched speeches and appearances. He never really got around to the whole hanging or keeping the black man down part. He just kept talking about low taxes low regulation and opportunity. Then when i went off to college i got my first job. I was then introduced to my business partner FICA. I've been a republican ever since.
My point is this, you're not going to get 95% agreement on any policy proposal from any demographic. What you have is an emotional belief based on years of conditioning marketing and branding. There are a natural amount of pro business pro opportunity minorities that vote democrat because of what someone says about republicans more than what republicans actually say. Now we have Trump who's bringing in tens of millions of new viewers to the debate and primary process. there's a Built in amount of minorities that are going to here an economic message they haven't been exposed to before that they already agree with.
Quote:You would think most of those people learned their lesson 7 years ago voting for Barry.
They should have. And that would be the main case in the general election. Bernie Sanders would have to get on a debate stage with Donald Trump three times. That wouldn't be pretty. The foreign policy debate would seal the deal. You'd have Sanders over there standing in a corner blathering on about climate change and renewable energy sources while people are getting their heads chopped off.
Quote:They should have. And that would be the main case in the general election. Bernie Sanders would have to get on a debate stage with Donald Trump three times. That wouldn't be pretty. The foreign policy debate would seal the deal. You'd have Sanders over there standing in a corner blathering on about climate change and renewable energy sources while people are getting their heads chopped off.
...and you'd have Donald shouting about banning Muslims from entering the country and talking about how Russia's not a threat because he and Putin get along so well. That, also, would not be pretty.
It kills me to say this, but Hillary and Rubio are probably the closest things left to centrists in this race. Unfortunately, Hillary's a snake and Rubio wants to build a police state. We need a third party now more than ever. My hope, screwed up as it is, is that the two main political parties continue to pull so far to the extremes that those disillusioned folks in the middle who agree on more than they disagree on get around to forming a party of their own that drowns out one of the two legacy parties.
I think the Republicans could win with Rubio, because he's closer to center than anyone else remaining. I think Trump or Cruz would lose to either Democratic candidate for one simple reason: the key elements of their campaigns are built on fear, while the key elements of Clinton and Sanders' campaigns are built on hope. Regardless of what you think of Obama's Presidency, hope sells in this country, and it'll be far easier for a candidate promising free crap that he has no idea how to pay for to win than it will be for a guy who wants to carpet bomb the Middle East or ban Muslims from entering the US to do so.
Quote:...and you'd have Donald shouting about banning Muslims from entering the country and talking about how Russia's not a threat because he and Putin get along so well. That, also, would not be pretty.
It kills me to say this, but Hillary and Rubio are probably the closest things left to centrists in this race. Unfortunately, Hillary's a snake and Rubio wants to build a police state. We need a third party now more than ever. My hope, screwed up as it is, is that the two main political parties continue to pull so far to the extremes that those disillusioned folks in the middle who agree on more than they disagree on get around to forming a party of their own that drowns out one of the two legacy parties.
I think the Republicans could win with Rubio, because he's closer to center than anyone else remaining. I think Trump or Cruz would lose to either Democratic candidate for one simple reason: the key elements of their campaigns are built on fear, while the key elements of Clinton and Sanders' campaigns are built on hope. Regardless of what you think of Obama's Presidency, hope sells in this country, and it'll be far easier for a candidate promising free crap that he has no idea how to pay for to win than it will be for a guy who wants to carpet bomb the Middle East or ban Muslims from entering the US to do so.
Pitter... Patter.
What hope? Socialism is hope? We've only lapped the field around those economies for what a century? More? You think 50 plus 1 percent of the country wants to go on a honeymoon in the USSR?
Hope works in the absence of Evidence. Obama sold his proposals as untried and in defiance of the experts. Those proposals failed, rather miserably i might add. Then in 08 his campaign was, "well i didn't have enough time" 7 years later and we're having one of worst starts to a year in history, we borrowed ten TRILLION more dollars and we don't have anything to show for it. promising 4 more years of that hope aint one of them.
The reason i think Trump will win in a general election, is because of what he truly represents. He's a guy who is historically very moderate, was open to the idea of fiscal and monetary intervention to stem the tide in 07-09 and was intellectually open to the idea of government taking a bigger role in Healthcare. 7 years later it JUST HASN'T WORKED!
as for running on fear, you literally have gangs of men walking the streets of Europe raping women. You have Christians getting their heads chopped off in the middle east and Christmas parties being shot up here at home. Taking steps to protect our citizens is common sense. Don't criticize people because they won't follow you headlong into the sand.
Trump is really breaking new ground. What other politician can get away with calling the president a half breed without numbers dropping or supporters saying "Hmmm.. maybe that's not the best thing to be saying?" Nobody. He is truly in a league of his own there.
Quote:Pitter... Patter.
What hope? Socialism is hope? We've only lapped the field around those economies for what a century? More? You think 50 plus 1 percent of the country wants to go on a honeymoon in the USSR?
50 +1 % of the voters this year won't have been alive during that heyday, they only know what those who are for that system taught them in school. They have no real working knowledge of just how bad the USSR was and they yearn to repeat it in their own era.
Quote:Trump is really breaking new ground. What other politician can get away with calling the president a half breed without numbers dropping or supporters saying "Hmmm.. maybe that's not the best thing to be saying?" Nobody. He is truly in a league of his own there.
And yet the Party of DIversity is led by an African-American and running two old white people while the other side runs a black guy, a Canadian, a Cuban, and a space alien.
It's like we're through the looking glass in American politics when I would feel better about either Romney or Biden winning over anyone actually running.
The Republicans are fielding a circus. Trump looks like he will win the nomination...I said Donald [BLEEP] Trump! Are you people serious? The Democrats will win this election in blowout fashion. It doesn't matter if it's Hillary or Bernie...you can punch in another 8 years of liberal/progressive agenda...
Thank God. The last thing this country needs is another war mongering, [BLEEP] backwards, science illiterate bigot.
So if you don't think global warming is the real cause of terrorism your science illiterate if you don't want masses of rogue young men raping women and if you actually believe in defending this country you're a warmonger? I think the above is the best evidence for poll testing I've ever seen!
Quote:Trump is really breaking new ground. What other politician can get away with calling the president a half breed without numbers dropping or supporters saying "Hmmm.. maybe that's not the best thing to be saying?" Nobody. He is truly in a league of his own there.
He really is but dang.....him as POTUS just freaks me out.
Here's a question, and I'm totally serious about it. Can Donald Trump be another Ronald Reagan? Seriously...
Reagan was mainly known as an actor, but did have some political experience (unlike Trump). He was able to gain super-majority support in his landslide win after Jimmy Carter. Barrack Hussein Obama has done worse to this country than Carter did. Is it possible that people are so fed up that they would vote for Trump rather than a "traditional candidate?
Trump does seem to have support not only from the "far right", but also from a lot of center/left and center/right leaning voters.
Looking at "traditional candidates"... On the right side of the political spectrum, the only other two viable candidates are Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio. Ted Cruz is the "anti-GOP-establishment" candidate, loved by conservative leaning people. Marco Rubio is the "GOP-establishment" choice right now since Jeb Bush is not doing so well.
Look at the left. Most talking heads in the media are simply waiting for the "coronation" of Hillary, yet Bernie Sanders will probably beat her. Would the majority of voters really select a socialist? Hillary is the left's "establishment" candidate while Bernie Sanders is the "radical left" candidate.
I personally know several democrats, some of them family members that will not vote for either Hillary or Bernie Sanders. Many of them have expressed an interest in Marco Rubio, though a few have also talked about Donald Trump.
In short yes. Look here in florida. People see traditional politicians as incapable of driving the economy. We turned to a political novice with strong business experience to create jobs. Rick scott also came with his share of flaws as a candidate. Trump leads everyone when it comes to whos best for the economy and that is the biggest indicator of who can win.
Quote:Early polls indicate that the Democrats (and more specifically Bernie Sanders) would defeat any of the Republican hopefuls in a head to head Presidential election.
http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/pr...-over-both
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-goodma...45156.html
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/MSNBC/Sectio...lease).pdf
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/...-5565.html
I don't want Clinton or Sanders to win, but clearly welfare is a very powerful incentive for some people in this country.
Regardless of what those polls say, look at reality. Take this message board as a small example. Do you see more support for a Democrat or a Republican candidate? How about the current President's approval ratings. Are they good? To quote Ronald Reagan, "ask yourself. Are you better off now than you were four years ago"?
Here is the full quote from Reagan, and by all means it is relevant today.
Quote:
"Ask yourself, 'Are you better off now than you were four years ago? Is it easier for you to go and buy things in the stores than it was four years ago? Is there more or less unemployment in the country than there was four years ago? Is America as respected throughout the world as it was?”
I strongly disagree that "signs point to a democrat win".
The beauty is, Trump hasn't even started yet. Once he gets the GOP nomination, he will really put his foot on the gas.
The guy is a genius. Others are spending millions while he is a master of social media and other "free" publicity.
It's really a matter of time before he gets knighted. Surprised he isn't Sir Trump already to be honest.