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One thing I hate about coming off another bad season......fans arguing with each other.

To paraphrase Jack Nicholson as the Joker in the first Batman movie...


This team needs an enema.

I don't think there's any way Babich can keep his job. Either Gus should take control of the defense or hire someone competent. Defense was so bad, it needs to be overhauled.

I'm afraid they'll think the main problem was talent (and to a certain extent it really is) and will just focus on improving the roster but keeping the staff.

While it's true we need playmakers at every level on the defense the staff, playcalling and game preparation was atrocious, players unprepared, unsure on how to line up, who to cover...it wwas that bad and the staff has to be held accountable as well as improving the roster.

Quote:Where are you seeing that?

DiRocco said that in his article yesterday afternoon. I sure hope he's wrong, though.

Quote:Yeah Babich sucks, but what DC worth a damn would come to a team with a lame-duck HC anyway? The only change I see happening is maybe Gus taking over defensive play-calling or something along those lines.

 

This. Even if Babich is fired, no one competent is going to want to be here on a one-year deal. I think last year there was probably pressure from above for Gus to make changes to the offensive coaching staff. Heading into a potentially lame duck season, I doubt there's much pressure from above for Gus to fire anyone this year.

 

Next year is Gus' do or die season. If I'm Caldwell, I let Gus make the decision himself, giving him enough of the proverbial rope.

I think there are plenty of good DCs who would like to come to a team with an undeniably ascending offense and a ton of cap room.

LOL -- Look at what Babich to NDSU before he was fired

 

<b>North Dakota State Bison</b> <i>(North Central Conference)</i> (1997–2002)

1997 North Dakota State 9–3 7–2 T–2nd <b>L</b> NCAA Division II First Round

1998 North Dakota State 7–4 6–3 4th  

1999 North Dakota State 9–2 7–2 3rd  

2000 North Dakota State 12–2 8–1 2nd <b>L</b> NCAA Division II Semifinal

2001 North Dakota State 7–3 5–3 3rd  

2002 North Dakota State 2–8 1–7 9th  

<b>Total:</b> 46–22

 

 

 

30 YEAR HISTORY OF NDSU (Coach, Years, Record, Conference Titles, National Championships)

26 Earle Solomonson 1985–1986 24-2-1  2  1985, 1986

27 Rocky Hager 1987–1996 91-25-1  5  1988, 1990

28 Bob Babich 1997–2002 46-22- 0  0

29 Craig Bohl 2003–2013 104-32-0  4  2011, 2012, 2013

30 Chris Klieman 2014- 26-3-0  2  2014

Quote:LOL -- Look at what Babich to NDSU before he was fired

<a class="bbc_url" href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Dakota_State_Bison_football'>North Dakota State Bison</a> (<a class="bbc_url" href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Central_Conference'>North Central Conference</a>) (1997–2002)
<a class="bbc_url" href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1997_NCAA_Division_II_football_season'>1997</a> North Dakota State 9–3 7–2 T–2nd L <a class="bbc_url" href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_Division_II_National_Football_Championship'>NCAA Division II First Round</a>
<a class="bbc_url" href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_NCAA_Division_II_football_season'>1998</a> North Dakota State 7–4 6–3 4th
<a class="bbc_url" href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_NCAA_Division_II_football_season'>1999</a> North Dakota State 9–2 7–2 3rd
<a class="bbc_url" href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_NCAA_Division_II_football_season'>2000</a> North Dakota State 12–2 8–1 2nd L <a class="bbc_url" href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_Division_II_National_Football_Championship'>NCAA Division II Semifinal</a>
<a class="bbc_url" href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_NCAA_Division_II_football_season'>2001</a> North Dakota State 7–3 5–3 3rd
<a class="bbc_url" href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_NCAA_Division_II_football_season'>2002</a> North Dakota State 2–8 1–7 9th
Total: 46–22



30 YEAR HISTORY OF NDSU (Coach, Years, Record, Conference Titles, National Championships)

26 <a class="bbc_url" href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earle_Solomonson'>Earle Solomonson</a> 1985–1986 24-2-1 2 1985, 1986

27 <a class="bbc_url" href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocky_Hager'>Rocky Hager</a> 1987–1996 91-25-1 5 1988, 1990

28 <a class="bbc_url" href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Babich_(American_football_coach)'>Bob Babich</a> 1997–2002 46-22- 0 0

29 <a class="bbc_url" href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Bohl'>Craig Bohl</a> 2003–2013 104-32-0 4 2011, 2012, 2013

30 <a class="bbc_url" href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Klieman'>Chris Klieman</a> 2014- 26-3-0 2 2014

So,in the last 30 years, Babich is the only bad coach in NDSU history.


How in the heck did this guy become an NFL DC??

Bradley just said no wholesale changes.

Quote:So,in the last 30 years, Babich is the only bad coach in NDSU history.


How in the heck did this guy become an NFL DC??

 

Gus Bradley was the DC under Babich at NDSU

 

Gus Bradley Coaching Career

1990–1991 North Dakota State (GA)

1992–1995 Fort Lewis College (DC/LB)

1996–2005 North Dakota State (DC)

2006–2008 Tampa Bay Buccaneers (LB)

2009–2012 Seattle Seahawks (DC)

2013–<i>present</i> Jacksonville Jaguars <b>(head coach)</b>

He needs to get the boot.  Will it happen?  Probably not

<a class="" href='https://twitter.com/GeneFrenette'>Eugene Frenette ‏@GeneFrenette </a> <a class="" href='https://twitter.com/GeneFrenette/status/684063773796233216'>28s</a>

<a class="" href='https://twitter.com/GeneFrenette/status/684063773796233216'>28 seconds ago</a>
<p class="" style="color:rgb(41,47,51);font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">Bradley says he talks with GM Caldwell about everything, potential coaching staff changes will be no different. <a class="" href='https://twitter.com/hashtag/Jaguars?src=hash'>#Jaguars</a>

Quote:Gus Bradley was the DC under Babich at NDSU

 

Gus Bradley Coaching Career

1990–1991 North Dakota State (GA)

1992–1995 Fort Lewis College (DC/LB)

1996–2005 North Dakota State (DC)

2006–2008 Tampa Bay Buccaneers (LB)

2009–2012 Seattle Seahawks (DC)

2013–<i>present</i> Jacksonville Jaguars <b>(head coach)</b>

 

maybe Babich protected Gus from being fired and he is doing the same thing now

Quote:Eugene Frenette ‏@GeneFrenette  28s

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<p style="color:rgb(41,47,51);font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">Bradley says he talks with GM Caldwell about everything, potential coaching staff changes will be no different. #Jaguars

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With the 2nd pick in the 2017 NFL Draft, the Jacksonville Jaguars select Cam Robinson - Offensive Tackle - Alabama

 

(i'm counting on the Eagles tanking like the Sixers)

 

Quote:I'm afraid they'll think the main problem was talent (and to a certain extent it really is) and will just focus on improving the roster but keeping the staff.

While it's true we need playmakers at every level on the defense the staff, playcalling and game preparation was atrocious, players unprepared, unsure on how to line up, who to cover...it wwas that bad and the staff has to be held accountable as well as improving the roster.

 

This statement is perfect - in what drives me crazy about fans. How dare "they" think the main problem was talent. We all know that can't be it! 

 

"Playcalling and game praperation were atrocious." LOL - like you have a clue what the playcalling and game preparation was. I'm sure you've had many positions with an NFL team, but one thing you failed to learn is that the best teams tends to have the best players.

 

Sacrifice Babich (Barabas?) if they must. Funny how the offense improved with a good QB and receivers. Perhaps that will occur with the addition of new players on defense. It won't be playcalling and game preparation. 

Has this tool been fired yet

Quote:This statement is perfect - in what drives me crazy about fans. How dare "they" think the main problem was talent. We all know that can't be it!


"Playcalling and game praperation were atrocious." LOL - like you have a clue what the playcalling and game preparation was. I'm sure you've had many positions with an NFL team, but one thing you failed to learn is that the best teams tends to have the best players.


Sacrifice Babich (Barabas?) if they must. Funny how the offense improved with a good QB and receivers. Perhaps that will occur with the addition of new players on defense. It won't be playcalling and game preparation.

I'm here to whine about your whining...


Grrrr. You poster make me poster mad. I pound fist on table! Grrrr.


How'd I do?

Quote:Has this tool been fired yet

 

Gus will give him another chance.

Which leaves the fan base sitting here w/ a sort of numb feeling after watching the trainwreck that was the end of the season, followed by a whole lot of "Status Quo" plans for next year.

 

I'm sure that's going to show up on ticket sales.

 

Gotta at least PRETEND like you're doing something to fix it, guys!