Quote:It's also time to carry 3 QB's. We need to draft (round 3-4) and develop one. It's to critical of a position to ignore any longer.
If you're playing your third QB, you're screwed anyway. I like Caldwell's approach. Have two quarterbacks active along with a guy like D-Rob or Marshall that can hand the ball off and throw a shovel pass or two, with a third QB on the practice squad. No use wasting a spot on the active roster, especially with the relaxed PS rules.
Quote:From the Jags games I've seen in the last few seasons and for what I've read here and elsewhere, the one player that stands out in this group that I would want to keep if in the Jags position is Ryan Davis. Because of the team's salary cap situation, using a 2nd Round Tender on him would be easy to accomplish, if necessary. Otherwise, even if by remote chance the Jags didn't re-sign any of the other players, I think the impact would be minimal, based on the team's resources to find replacements.
I hear you. As I see it the only "must have" guys are Bryan Anger (no tag tho) and Abry Jones.
Quote:Yeah agree fully. Actually have no problem with Henne on the team for next year but I've seen Henne described as "one of the best backups in the league" or "a quality backup" far too many times without any reason behind it.
Right. I don't care if they sign him again or not, but I see more reason to move in the direction I suggest than to hang on to him, because if he were starting the Jaguars would be in the same position the Cowboys were in this season.
Put in that perspective it should be clear why wasting money on backup QB salary is a poor idea. Who backs up Tom Brady? His 2016 salary is less than 750K, or less than a fourth of what the Jaguars paid Henne, and Garoppolo is probably the better player of the two.
Re-sign Anger, Ryan Davis, Henne, Walters, Gray and Abry.
Keep Wiz but for a cheap deal.
We need to have big money to spend in FA on the defensive end.
Bryan Anger will always be a reminder of what a bad GM Gene Smith was. A punter on the 3rd round, are you kidding me? After this offseason, it may mark the end of the Smith era with these players as the only players acquired by him that are still here:
Bryan Anger
Chad Henne
Tyson Alualu
Andre Branch
Poz
If there are other players, I don't remember them. As you can see the only significant contributors still on the team are Poz and Anger.
Quote:Bryan Anger will always be a reminder of what a bad GM David Caldwell was. A punter on the 3rd round, are you kidding me? After this offseason, it may mark the end of the Caldwell era with these players as the only players acquired by him that are still here:
Bryan Anger
Chad Henne
Tyson Alualu
Andre Branch
Poz
If there are other players, I don't remember them. As you can see the only significant contributors still on the team are Poz and Anger.
Dave Caldwell didn't draft Anger in the third. That was Gene Smith. DC didn't draft the other players you've listed either.
Abry Jones, Ryan Davis and that is pretty much it.
I still think Andre Branch would be decent depth.
This may be the end of the road for Branch and Lewis.
Quote:Bryan Anger will always be a reminder of what a bad GM David Caldwell was. A punter on the 3rd round, are you kidding me? After this offseason, it may mark the end of the Caldwell era with these players as the only players acquired by him that are still here:
Bryan Anger
Chad Henne
Tyson Alualu
Andre Branch
Poz
If there are other players, I don't remember them. As you can see the only significant contributors still on the team are Poz and Anger.
Hopefully you're still drunk from last evening.
Quote:This may be the end of the road for Branch and Lewis.
May be? Those guys are gone by Monday.
I read an article on Yahoo somewhere that said Anger was having trouble as a directional punter, which is what Guys wants. It said as a result Anger's numbers dipped this year. They went on to day he is considered an excellent holder (which obviously helped Myers.)
Sorry I don't have the link, but all things considered, I don't see a reason to franchise a punter.
UFAs
P Bryan Anger - We may have to use franchise tag at around $4.5 mil for the season
...re-sign if reasonable number. Valued but replaceable.
WR Bryan Walters - Hopefully the team's #3 WR re-signs early
...with Lee getting healthy and Greene excelling at PR, not sure Walters is needed. He'll be competing at the 5th WR spot and a backup PR role. Let him go if more than minimum.
TE Marcedes Lewis - The opportunity to play out his carreer with the Jaguars should make Lewis fairly easy to re-sign. Meester is the longest tenured Jaguar at 14 years. Next year would be Lewis' 11th season.
...for a similar primarily blocking TE role, Nic Jacobs is developing well and 7 years younger. Let Marcedes go.
TE Clay Harbor - Underutilized this past year, Clay is a decent TE we should try to keep
...he's a solid in the pass-catching TE role behind Thomas, and should be re-signed if the amount is minimal.
C Stephen Wisniewski - We might let him test free agency since in a worst case scenario we still have Bowanko, and then look to re-sign cheap if Jaguars can't land a free agent center. Keep in mind that Wiz is still young at 26. Other options include Cards longtime starting Center Lyle Sendlein, age 31, and the Rams new starter this season, Tim Barnes. Browns Center Alex Mack is set to make $8 mil next year, however, he has an option to opt out and become a free agent should he feel he can do better. Given such slim pickings, allowing Wiz to test free agency is a tough call. These are the only starters hitting free agency.
...not a Wis fan, as he showed inconsistency in his snaps and blocking. Give Bowanko a shot or bring in someone new.
OT Sam Young - The massive LT provides decent depth depth at tackle and has been active all season, however, he's going into his 7th season and the Jaguars have a younger, quicker LT coming off IR in Josh Wells. I see Caldwell making him a fair offer while letting him walk if he's looking for more.
...a mediocre to poor heavy-footed backup that should not be a priority re-sign. Wells is a better swing OT on game day when healthy, and makes Young expendable.
RB Bernard Pierce - With the addition of Jonas Gray and knowing that Corey Grant is coming off IR, I don't see Caldwell going out of his way to re-sign Pierce. However, the RB might become more attractive should the Jaguars part with Gerhart and the $3.5 mil in new money that Gerhart is due if kept for 2016.
...Pierce has proven to be nothing special, but does give experienced backup credentials. If he re-signs for minimum, let him compete for the 3rd RB role. If more than minimum, let him walk.
QB Chad Henne - Surely the Jaguars can do better for their money here. Brock Osweiler, Sam Bradford, Kirk Cousins, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Chase Daniel, Drew Stanton, Michael Vick and Case Keenum are all set to hit free agency.
...I have never understood the logic for people in the Jag's media saying Henne is one of the best backups. A bad QB is just a bad QB, whether he starts or comes off the bench. I would like to see him replaced this time around.
DE Andre Branch - While Branch finally made a few impressive plays as of late, there is such a thing as too little, too late. Branch is simply not a good fit for Bradley's scheme, and I see Caldwell letting the former Gene Smith draft pick walk.
...in Bradley's scheme, he's a pass rushing LEO that fails to get a consistent pass rush. Let him go.
RFAs
Abry Jones - Jones is a must keep wherein he'll probably get a 2nd round tender worth about $2.5 mil.
...important rotational backup worth a tender.
Ryan Davis - Davis may be the team's best pass rushing DE after Fowler and might as well be worth a 2nd round tender.
...nice inside component to lightening package worth a tender.
Joplo Bartu - I don't see him getting a qualifying offer for an RFA, however, the team may be able to re-sign him for the veteran minimum which in his case would be $675,000.
...nothing special to tender.
ERFAs
Jonas Gray - I definitely see him getting a minimum offer of $600,000.
...in his limited carries last game, to me, he looked worthy of being the 2nd or 3rd RB behind Yeldin. He'll get another year.
Nic Jacobs - He's shown flashes and probably has earned himself the same minimum offer.
...He'll get another year regardless of their decision with Lewis. Nic has been a solid backup.
My 2 cents:
Lewis: Let walk. A rookie better serves his spot to develop instead of a vet
Anger: Re-sign. Hes decent and I'd trust him not to screw the game up for us
Walters: Re-sign him. He is the definition of quality depth.
Harbor: He's a pass TE with iffy hands. Let em' walk if you can't get em' cheap.
wiz: Let walk, Sign a Vet C until Bowanko develops
Young: Decent depth. Resign only if price is low
Pierce: Let walk.
Henne: Let walk.
Branch: Let walk.
Abry Jones: Decent depth.
Ryan Davis: Id rather keep em'
Joplu Barto: Let walk
Jonus Gray Let walk
Nic Jacobs: Let walk
UFA's: Re-sign Walters, Henne, Harbor and Young to inexpensive contracts. Solid reserves.
RFA's: Keep Jones and Davis, also for reasonable price.
Everyone else can leave- especially Branch and Lewis.
Quote:I stopped at the idea of franchising the punter....
Me too.
The last game was one of the very few times he pinned anyone.
We could get very comparable results for less than 1/2 of the franchise.
Ridiculous.
Quote:
P Bryan Anger - We may have to use franchise tag at around $4.5 mil for the season
Why? He is nothing special and more often than not misses chances to pin opponents deep. He can walk no big deal
None of the UFAs are worth the money that they will be asking. We can get better or equal for less cap
I agree on tendering (I guess that is a word) Jones and Davis
Gray and Jacobs should be no brainers to keep.
Quote:None of the UFAs are worth the money that they will be asking. We can get better or equal for less cap
I agree on tendering (I guess that is a word) Jones and Davis
Gray and Jacobs should be no brainers to keep.
I doubt Anger or Harbor will be asking for all that much, and Lewis if kept could probably be kept for cheap. The same goes for Pierce if we even want him. Anger should get a decent contract for a punter, but it's still a punters contract. Paying him even $1.5 mil per is not exactly going to cap strap us. That's the same price as a couple minimum wage players.
The tougher one's regarding how much they might ask are Wiz and Walters. I like Walters, but if he starts looking for big money the Jaguars are stacked at the position. Wiz is the tougher call. I like knowing we have Bowanko, but what's tough is that the options are so limited. As I said, you only have a few. Mack would have to opt out to even get on the market, and he's probably want something like $10 mil per. That's they kind of money that could put the Jaguars cap in jeapardy. There are only two other realistic options at Center. You have the Rams Center who started this year for the first time and for all we know might not be any kind of upgrade over Wiz. Then you have the Cards Center who may be an upgrade but is practically ready to retire. Keeping Wiz may actually be our best option unless we draft a stud Center to compete with Bowanko.
Young, Henne and Branch are the three guys probably looking for too much money. It's not that any of the three are that good, but they simply play expensive positions where the Jaguars can do better.
Quote:I doubt Anger or Harbor will be asking for all that much, and Lewis if kept could probably be kept for cheap. The same goes for Pierce if we even want him. Anger should get a decent contract for a punter, but it's still a punters contract. Paying him even $1.5 mil per is not exactly going to cap strap us. That's the same price as a couple minimum wage players.
The tougher one's regarding how much they might ask are Wiz and Walters. I like Walters, but if he starts looking for big money the Jaguars are stacked at the position. Wiz is the tougher call. I like knowing we have Bowanko, but what's tough is that the options are so limited. As I said, you only have a few. Mack would have to opt out to even get on the market, and he's probably want something like $10 mil per. That's they kind of money that could put the Jaguars cap in jeapardy. There are only two other realistic options at Center. You have the Rams Center who started this year for the first time and for all we know might not be any kind of upgrade over Wiz. Then you have the Cards Center who may be an upgrade but is practically ready to retire. Keeping Wiz may actually be our best option unless we draft a stud Center to compete with Bowanko.
Young, Henne and Branch are the three guys probably looking for too much money. It's not that any of the three are that good, but they simply play expensive positions where the Jaguars can do better.
Unless Caldwell has a Parnell style card up his sleeve to bring someone in from somewhat off the radar then I'm not sure there is a move to be made that would be better than Wiz. He's not a great center, but it's hard to find great players at every position. I think Mack might be done being elite, and I wouldn't break the bank for a guy with a foot out the door into the retirement. If Wiz can be signed for a reasonable price (3-4 million per year) then he's probably the guy that will stick around and if an upgrade happens to come along then he becomes depth at center and guard.
Id bring Lewis back, why not? Run blocker and loves being a Jag, could end his career in Jacksonville, of course for the right price, but he's not getting anything special in the market. I know many are critical of Lewis, and he's not been a Gronk type receiver for us, but I will always respect Lewis and I think he's been a great player for us for many years.
Id bring back Lewis, Henne, Jones, and maybe Clay Harbor. Id let Branch, Anger go along with the rest. Anger is not that great of a punter for us. I think its been a difficult time for Anger and it is unfortunate he was drafted so high, big mistake by Gene Smith to do that for the team and the player. Maybe a change of scenery will do him better, Branch definitely needs to go, and Id cut Clemons as well. Branch just is not getting it done and its time we move on.
As for who we should bring in? Id go get Mario Williams when he is cut and then Alex Mack.