Anger does a fine job punting. He's never been cited as a reason for losses, and complaints against him amount to nitpicking. He may not be a pro bowl punter, but he's darn consistent, and I've seen teams like the Packers struggle for years looking for a good punter.
Quote:Anger does a fine job punting. He's never been cited as a reason for losses, and complaints against him amount to nitpicking. He may not be a pro bowl punter, but he's darn consistent, and I've seen teams like the Packers struggle for years looking for a good punter.
Most of the angst over Angerer in this thread related to franchising him, which would be asinine.
Quote:I'd rather us just draft a mid round QB for development over everyone available at this point. Draft, develop, if he turns into a quality product then flip him for a pick or two.
No way would I want a rookie QB backing up Bortles, maybe by year 4, we still need a vet backup QB
Walters, Davis and Jones def want back
Jonas Grey and Nic Jacobs too
Quote:Who to keep... who to let walk...
UFAs
P Bryan Anger - We may have to use franchise tag at around $4.5 mil for the season
WR Bryan Walters - Hopefully the team's #3 WR re-signs early
TE Marcedes Lewis - The opportunity to play out his carreer with the Jaguars should make Lewis fairly easy to re-sign. Meester is the longest tenured Jaguar at 14 years. Next year would be Lewis' 11th season.
TE Clay Harbor - Underutilized this past year, Clay is a decent TE we should try to keep
C Stephen Wisniewski - We might let him test free agency since in a worst case scenario we still have Bowanko, and then look to re-sign cheap if Jaguars can't land a free agent center. Keep in mind that Wiz is still young at 26. Other options include Cards longtime starting Center Lyle Sendlein, age 31, and the Rams new starter this season, Tim Barnes. Browns Center Alex Mack is set to make $8 mil next year, however, he has an option to opt out and become a free agent should he feel he can do better. Given such slim pickings, allowing Wiz to test free agency is a tough call. These are the only starters hitting free agency.
OT Sam Young - The massive LT provides decent depth depth at tackle and has been active all season, however, he's going into his 7th season and the Jaguars have a younger, quicker LT coming off IR in Josh Wells. I see Caldwell making him a fair offer while letting him walk if he's looking for more.
RB Bernard Pierce - With the addition of Jonas Gray and knowing that Corey Grant is coming off IR, I don't see Caldwell going out of his way to re-sign Pierce. However, the RB might become more attractive should the Jaguars part with Gerhart and the $3.5 mil in new money that Gerhart is due if kept for 2016.
QB Chad Henne - Surely the Jaguars can do better for their money here. Brock Osweiler, Sam Bradford, Kirk Cousins, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Chase Daniel, Drew Stanton, Michael Vick and Case Keenum are all set to hit free agency.
DE Andre Branch - While Branch finally made a few impressive plays as of late, there is such a thing as too little, too late. Branch is simply not a good fit for Bradley's scheme, and I see Caldwell letting the former Gene Smith draft pick walk.
RFAs
Abry Jones - Jones is a must keep wherein he'll probably get a 2nd round tender worth about $2.5 mil.
Ryan Davis - Davis may be the team's best pass rushing DE after Fowler and might as well be worth a 2nd round tender.
Joplo Bartu - I don't see him getting a qualifying offer for an RFA, however, the team may be able to re-sign him for the veteran minimum which in his case would be $675,000.
ERFAs
Jonas Gray - I definitely see him getting a minimum offer of $600,000.
Nic Jacobs - He's shown flashes and probably has earned himself the same minimum offer.
I'd keep most of this list.
Keep Henne if he's willing to take the minimum, otherwise go younger and develop a guy behind Bortles.
Keep Marcedes if he is willing to take the minimum. He won't be a hot name on the market, so I wouldn't be suprised if he was willing to stay. Jacobs can do what Lewis does, though.
Get rid of Wiz. If you can't find a replacement veteran for Wiz, then draft one or let's go with Bowanko.
Branch most likely won't get any major interest in free agency, so maybe bring him back on a 1 year prove it deal. Probably won't become what we expected when he was drafted, but he could be a nice rotational guy.
The only guys we NEED to keep are Davis and Jones. We will see what Gray can do tomorrow as the main ball carrier. Anger is a punter, so if he wants too much money, he can go.
Quote:Anger does a fine job punting. He's never been cited as a reason for losses, and complaints against him amount to nitpicking. He may not be a pro bowl punter, but he's darn consistent, and I've seen teams like the Packers struggle for years looking for a good punter.
He's mediocre. Not awful, just not very good. He struggles with control on his punts. Like I alluded to earlier, I can't even begin to count how many times this season I've seen a punt of his sail ten yards past the gunners--usually with good hangtime, sometimes not--into the arms of a returner more than happy to rip off a nice return. It seems that when he does try to take a little off his swing and float the ball instead of driving it, he comes up short. That's not to say that every punt is awful or that he's the worst punter ever, because he's not. A lot of that just comes from residual Gene hate. In a lot of ways, at least on this board, there's more, ahem, anger about Anger than there is about Gabbert when it comes to Gene's tenure.
I think he could be pretty easily replaced by a rookie, drafted or otherwise, or by a street guy that's been to a camp or two, maybe done a week on a roster here and there as an injury sub. That's not to say there's no circumstance in which I'd want Anger back, but I do think that he can be upgraded without much effort to a guy that's got more consistency to his game and is a better directional punter.
No one worth keeping really. Maybe Davis, but I haven't seen much of him this year.
Quote:He's mediocre. Not awful, just not very good. He struggles with control on his punts. Like I alluded to earlier, I can't even begin to count how many times this season I've seen a punt of his sail ten yards past the gunners--usually with good hangtime, sometimes not--into the arms of a returner more than happy to rip off a nice return. It seems that when he does try to take a little off his swing and float the ball instead of driving it, he comes up short. That's not to say that every punt is awful or that he's the worst punter ever, because he's not. A lot of that just comes from residual Gene hate. In a lot of ways, at least on this board, there's more, ahem, anger about Anger than there is about Gabbert when it comes to Gene's tenure.
I think he could be pretty easily replaced by a rookie, drafted or otherwise, or by a street guy that's been to a camp or two, maybe done a week on a roster here and there as an injury sub. That's not to say there's no circumstance in which I'd want Anger back, but I do think that he can be upgraded without much effort to a guy that's got more consistency to his game and is a better directional punter.
Remember when Anger was drafted and he would boom 60 yard punts sky high with 6 second hang times in camp? I've never heard a crowd ooh and aww over a punter before until that. His kicks literally just sounded different coming off his foot. What happened to that guy?
Quote:I always wonder where the "Henne is a quality backup" came from? Is it because hes old?
He's Blake's best buddy. It's worth $2 million a year for Henne to just do that.
Quote:He's Blake's best buddy. It's worth $2 million a year for Henne to just do that.
If they really think that then hire him as a coach so he doesn't waste a roster spot. Players play, roster spots aren't for best buddies.
Quote:Who to keep... who to let walk...
UFAs
P Bryan Anger - We may have to use franchise tag at around $4.5 mil for the season
WR Bryan Walters - Hopefully the team's #3 WR re-signs early
TE Marcedes Lewis - The opportunity to play out his carreer with the Jaguars should make Lewis fairly easy to re-sign. Meester is the longest tenured Jaguar at 14 years. Next year would be Lewis' 11th season.
TE Clay Harbor - Underutilized this past year, Clay is a decent TE we should try to keep
C Stephen Wisniewski - We might let him test free agency since in a worst case scenario we still have Bowanko, and then look to re-sign cheap if Jaguars can't land a free agent center. Keep in mind that Wiz is still young at 26. Other options include Cards longtime starting Center Lyle Sendlein, age 31, and the Rams new starter this season, Tim Barnes. Browns Center Alex Mack is set to make $8 mil next year, however, he has an option to opt out and become a free agent should he feel he can do better. Given such slim pickings, allowing Wiz to test free agency is a tough call. These are the only starters hitting free agency.
OT Sam Young - The massive LT provides decent depth depth at tackle and has been active all season, however, he's going into his 7th season and the Jaguars have a younger, quicker LT coming off IR in Josh Wells. I see Caldwell making him a fair offer while letting him walk if he's looking for more.
RB Bernard Pierce - With the addition of Jonas Gray and knowing that Corey Grant is coming off IR, I don't see Caldwell going out of his way to re-sign Pierce. However, the RB might become more attractive should the Jaguars part with Gerhart and the $3.5 mil in new money that Gerhart is due if kept for 2016.
QB Chad Henne - Surely the Jaguars can do better for their money here. Brock Osweiler, Sam Bradford, Kirk Cousins, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Chase Daniel, Drew Stanton, Michael Vick and Case Keenum are all set to hit free agency.
DE Andre Branch - While Branch finally made a few impressive plays as of late, there is such a thing as too little, too late. Branch is simply not a good fit for Bradley's scheme, and I see Caldwell letting the former Gene Smith draft pick walk.
RFAs
Abry Jones - Jones is a must keep wherein he'll probably get a 2nd round tender worth about $2.5 mil.
Ryan Davis - Davis may be the team's best pass rushing DE after Fowler and might as well be worth a 2nd round tender.
Joplo Bartu - I don't see him getting a qualifying offer for an RFA, however, the team may be able to re-sign him for the veteran minimum which in his case would be $675,000.
ERFAs
Jonas Gray - I definitely see him getting a minimum offer of $600,000.
Nic Jacobs - He's shown flashes and probably has earned himself the same minimum offer.
Resign everyone but henne and young
Quote:I just might puke if we re-sign Branch. He was a literal ghost the first half of the season.
The Jaguars have one of the worst pass rushes I've ever seen. Branch had his blind squirrel finds a nut moment against the colts in the second quarter, doesn't mean he belongs in the NFL.
Quote:The Jaguars have one of the worst pass rushes I've ever seen. Branch had his blind squirrel finds a nut moment against the colts in the second quarter, doesn't mean he belongs in the NFL.
Perfectly describes the Branch situation. I was pretty happy with him that year he nearly hit 10 sacks. We knew he was being schemed but the line was extremely dominant that year. I think Branch simply isn't a player that can produce without others producing around him. Those players are "just guys" and should be allowed to walk in favor of bringing in another guy to develop.
Branch is a big time poser small time player.