Quote:I'm going back and forth about CB early, though we do need to load up on defense.
I think a huge part of the equation is something you mentioned in passing: play action, which only works if you are willing and able to run the ball.
I think Linder returning to health will help some, but this team needs to be more physical in the trenches.
The 1st and 2nd round of this upcoming draft, has to be Defensive picks.
Bortles statistically is better than Cutler was when he was traded. Does that make Bortles value multiple 1st round picks?
Quote:I'm going back and forth about CB early, though we do need to load up on defense.
I think a huge part of the equation is something you mentioned in passing: play action, which only works if you are willing and able to run the ball.
I think Linder returning to health will help some, but this team needs to be more physical in the trenches.
Running the ball is all about scheme and finding players that fit that scheme. The BEST teams do not have an offensive lines full of 1st round picks and also face injuries. They still make it work based on good protection schemes and blitz recognition.
First 4-5 picks should only be pass rushers and versatile LB's. Having a top level CB is luxury. If you look historically, most Super Bowl teams do NOT have them. They instead get after the pasher, which makes your secondary look better and get picks.
Quote:Bortles age 23 INT rate is now at 3.1%
Favre for his CAREER was at 3.3%.
A lot of Jags fans don't understand
1) Being 23, some people don't know how good Blake will be.
2) Some fans don't understand basic statistics.......if you throw the ball 40 times per game, you WILL throw 1 INT.
Tell that to Brady or Rodgers
Brady was 2.9 in his second year
Rodgers was 2.4 and 1.3 in his first and second year
Roethlisberger was 3.7 and 3.4 in year one and two and 4.9 in year three.
Rivers was 4.5 and 2.0 in year one and two starting.
Eli Manning was 4.3 and 4.6 in year one and two.
Lot's of disparity among QB's and Int rates. I'm not to worried about Bortles right now.
Quote:Tell that to Brady or Rodgers
This board has had its share of dumb posts, this would be near the top! So Rodgers did not throw a goal line pick 2 short weeks ago with the game on the line?
Quote:This board has had its share of dumb posts, this would be near the top! So Rodgers did not throw a goal line pick 2 short weeks ago with the game on the line?
I was referencing the last sentence in tve post. If you throw 40 times, you will throw an interception. What a load of crap. Those guys throw 40 times almost every game, and theyve done it plenty of times without a pick.
Quote:I was referencing the last sentence in tve post. If you throw 40 times, you will throw an interception. What a load of crap. Those guys throw 40 times almost every game, and theyve done it plenty of times without a pick.
So youre using the two best quarterbacks in the game, living legends as a measuring stick for a guy with 25 starts? Ill give you the numbers so you can spend more time trolling ,through 25 games Brady was 2.8%, Rodgers 2.9%, Blake this year is 3.0 already with more pass attempts in 11 games than they had in 16 their second season.
Quote:I was referencing the last sentence in tve post. If you throw 40 times, you will throw an interception. What a load of crap. Those guys throw 40 times almost every game, and theyve done it plenty of times without a pick.
you're a bortles hater and delusional at best.
Quote:Maybe but there is no excuse for some of the stuff he does. He throws it up for grabs way too often. Throwing the ball past the LOS twice in the redzone? That fumble vs the Jets where he ran lateral at the LOS like an idiot before getting hit. I don't see some of the other young QBs making all the boneheaded decisions every game.
It just screams Cutler to me. Puts up the stats and has games where you wonder why he isn't one of the games best. Then makes some of the worst decisions that reminds you why he is who he is.
Cutler seems to be turning the corner this year. Here are his November stats...
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Jay Cutler: 5 starts (3W, 2L), 105 of 160 (65.6%) for 1279 yards (8.0 YPA, 255.8 yds/gm), 7 TDs and 2 INTs for a 99.5 qb rating.
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- 7 sacks (40 yds), 15 rushes for 71 yards (4.7 ypc) and 1 TD with 3 fumbles (2 lost)
Quote:you're a bortles hater and delusional at best.
I actually like Bortles, and you can go back and find i am a huge supporter. However, his turnovers are horrendous, and they have become one of the main reasons we lose so many games. Youre delusional if you are blind to that.
Quote:I actually like Bortles, and you can go back and find i am a huge supporter. However, his turnovers are horrendous, and they have become one of the main reasons we lose so many games. Youre delusional if you are blind to that.
The main reason we lose games is our defense. Pretty adamant we would have a winning record with even an average defense.
I agree Bortles turnovers are frustrating but its plainly obvious that the D is the main problem , not the Bortles turnovers.
Quote:I actually like Bortles, and you can go back and find i am a huge supporter. However, his turnovers are horrendous, and they have become one of the main reasons we lose so many games. Youre delusional if you are blind to that.
Funny Cam Newton throws picks at the same rate this year. Must be the reason they've lost so many games? Oh wait...
Blake already has 44 more passing yards right now than he did last year, along with 11 more TDs and 12.8 higher QB Rating.
The Jaguars Offense & Defense hasnt been good (stat wise) since JDR back in 2007 (M. Lewis best year).
The last time a QB went over 3k in passing was suprise Chad Henne in 2013 with 3,241, andDavid Garrard did back in 2008 {He (DG) had one other 3k in 2009, & then the only other QB was Mark Brunnell 1999, to 2001, & again in 2006.
In fact even though Blake's season has 5 more games to go he is currently ranked 9th in Jaguars History of all QB yardage and has around the same QB Rate as the top 10 (exception Chad Henne was in the 70 QB Ratings, and Mark had one year in the 90s).
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Quote:Gonna have a career like Cutler if he can't clean up the mistakes.
And I don't mean that in a good way.
Will put up stats for sure, but you never trust him to win you games.
Not a chance. Cutler is a loser with an attitude. Blake is a natural leader who's improved ALL 3 years in college and 2 years in the pros. His upside is through the roof. Will continue to improve every year.
Quote:Tell that to Brady or Rodgers
Sure, if you want to pick out the .0001% of QBs with a 1.6% INT rate. I'm talking about other Hall of Famers.....Peyton, Farve, etc.....1 INT is normal in a game throwing 49 passes.
Quote:The main reason we lose games is our defense. Pretty adamant we would have a winning record with even an average defense.
I agree Bortles turnovers are frustrating but its plainly obvious that the D is the main problem , not the Bortles turnovers.
This. It's easy to blame the QB for losses looking at individual stats but this defense is so bad they can't get off the field. Two weeks ago the Chargers scored 3 points at home against KC and then puts up 31 against the Jags D on the road the following week. There needs to be a lot more threads about how much the defense needs to improve than the QB if we want to start winning games.