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Quote:Not in this draft

 

LOL, you can be wrong all you like.  No one's stopping you.

Quote:Both are better than S at 4.

 

Regardless of position, Adams should grade out much higher than any TE, the closest being OJ Howard. I am sure there will be mixed ratings on Fournette, but he should be closely graded to Adams. 

Quote:LOL, you can be wrong all you like.  No one's stopping you.

 

 

I'm wrong? If I'm wrong than everyone is wrong because you're the only one suggesting OJ Howard's draft value is better than both Jamal Adams and Hooker.

"not in this draft"

 

...S is so deep there's zero reason to take one at 4.

 

Zero.

 

This is why I've come to hate the draft... all the lunacy it induces when fans fall for players way too hard.

Quote:"not in this draft"

 

...S is so deep there's zero reason to take one at 4.

 

Zero.

 

This is why I've come to hate the draft... all the lunacy it induces when fans fall for players way too hard.

And this draft isn't deep at TE and RB?

 

It's extremely deep at both.

Just because a draft is deep at a position, doesn't mean you shouldn't take someone from that position with a top 4 pick.  Just depends on who you have graded higher.

Quote:Just because a draft is deep at a position, doesn't mean you shouldn't take someone from that position with a top 4 pick.  Just depends on who you have graded higher.

 

I don't have a problem with that.  In fact, many have Hooker graded higher than Adams.

 

I've never been shy about saying I'd prefer trading down to selecting either of those guys (or anyone else.)

 

There's better value to be had later, you have to try to take advantage of that.

 

I don't see any of these S, in my opinion, graded high enough to be a "must select" at 4 vs any other player that might be available there.  I don't see us regretting passing on any S that we could have at 4 vs what we collectively get by selecting a S later.

 

If we do take S, I get it.  I understand it.  I'm not childish and going to kick and scream, or even complain about it.  I'm not in charge.  I'd be disappointed with the value but still hoping the selection is a massive success.

Quote:I don't see any way we draft a QB at 4.

 

IMO our best option would be for someone else to want to draft a QB at 4.  Very badly.

Nah, Deshaun Air Jordan Watson at #4

Quote:Nah, Deshaun Air Jordan Watson at #4

 

Pick 35 would be good.

Quote:Pick 35 would be good.

would be solid value. Some on here thought Teddy was the next Manning/Montana and he went at 32. So Watson has to be there at 35 right?

Some also wanted us to draft Geno with the 2nd pick and he went in the 2nd round

Quote:would be solid value. Some on here thought Teddy was the next Manning/Montana and he went at 32. So Watson has to be there at 35 right?

 

He's not the best QB of the class.

 

CBS showing him as a round 1-2 prospect.  His NFL.com grade is 14th overall.

 

Not saying he "has to be there" but yeah, I wouldn't be surprised.

eww this guy is Blaine Gabbert 2.0

Quote:He's not the best QB of the class.


CBS showing him as a round 1-2 prospect. His NFL.com grade is 14th overall.


Not saying he "has to be there" but yeah, I wouldn't be surprised.

you don't know if he will end up the best QB in this class. He could be, its unknown at this point. Time will tell. What CBS has him ranked at means nothing.

Quote:He's not the best QB of the class.

 

CBS showing him as a round 1-2 prospect.  His NFL.com grade is 14th overall.

 

Not saying he "has to be there" but yeah, I wouldn't be surprised.

I have no strong opinion on Watson as he's not on my radar for the Jags, but to be fair, that CBS big board is about to be updated post-combine  and the main contributors (Rang and Brugler) both have Watson going #10 to the bills in their most recent individual mocks.

Quote:I still feel like the best possible qb solution would be Mahones falling to #35.

Agree

Quote:You're good people, I know you're not ripping me, and I know this isn't popular opinion.


I personally would rather they gamble on any of the QBs that are deemed potential franchise guys over Adams. That's how little I think of Blake's chances and how important the QB position is to me. I'd be very upset if they draft any RB or S without trading back.


Honestly, I'm off the John Allen bandwagon after his combine and medical issues. Aside from Thomas, I don't think anyone is going to scream value at 4. That being the case, give me the QB. I think one of them could flourish with a year to learn here.

So you want to gamble on a rookie

quarterback rather than taking the next Polamalu. I'm glad you not the GM

Quote:Regardless of position, Adams should grade out much higher than any TE, the closest being OJ Howard. I am sure there will be mixed ratings on Fournette, but he should be closely graded to Adams.

I'd rather have Howard than Adams or Fournette at 4. I just don't value those positions that much. The TE isn't good value there either, but it's not as bad as taking a RB or S.


Howard's combine blew me away.

Quote:So you want to gamble on a rookie

quarterback rather than taking the next Polamalu. I'm glad you not the GM

If you can guarantee me he's be Polamalu, I'd still take the chance of finding a franchise QB first, yes. We don't have one on this team. I wouldn't force anything but if there's guys that I think can be franchise guys, and I think there are between Trubisky Watson and Kizer, I would draft them at 4 and let them develop over drafting Adams.


I would've signed Tony Jefferson already anyway, so it would've been moot.