Quote:That is a pretty damning write up, anonymous, but damning. I suppose time will tell if any of it's true. That does not change the fact that what he will be here must be the same. Even if true.
Anonymous writer in Denver. Go figure.
Really this is some scurrilous crap some people are posting on this message board about our players. Anyone who has an injury is a malingerer who needs to be cut. Some of these posters need to crawl back in the hole they crawled out of.
does that sound like the kind of guy you want on your team?
Quote:does that sound like the kind of guy you want on your team?
Yes, I absolutely want Julius Thomas on our team. Totally. What is wrong with you? You don't want Julius Thomas on our team? Are you nuts?
Quote:Yes, I absolutely want Julius Thomas on our team. Totally. What is wrong with you? You don't want Julius Thomas on our team? Are you nuts?
Not at the cost he demands for such paltry production. I mean, the Jags already paid him so it doesn't make sense to cut him now. But to say his contributions to the team have been disappointing is an understatement, and given his history, it seems unlikely he will ever live up to the deal.
It seems to me the guy only cares about getting paid, and his actions thus far (and for his whole career) reflect that.
Quote:does that sound like the kind of guy you want on your team?
Talent is there. I can deal with his alleged lethargic personality. Not every player is perfect. Sometimes the team has to deal with personal faults that are overshadowed by talent. The locker room will take care of it
Quote:Talent is there. I can deal with his alleged lethargic personality. Not every player is perfect. Sometimes the team has to deal with personal faults that are overshadowed by talent. The locker room will take care of it
If a locker room full of all time greats like Manning, Ware, Bailey, and others can't help instill the mentality in him to turn it around, what makes you think the locker room of one of the worst teams of the past decade can?
The best pure pass rusher in franchise history is Tony Brackens. The biggest knock on him throughout his career was that he'd take plays off, and that the fire to play the game at a high level just wasn't there for him. Yet, he somehow managed to be a guy who had the capability of changing the dynamic of a game in the matter of a couple of plays.
I don't care what Thomas' motivation is. What I care about is that he has the ability to change the dynamic of a game with his play making abilities. If he's making plays, what motivates him is irrelevant.
Quote:Not at the cost he demands for such paltry production. I mean, the Jags already paid him so it doesn't make sense to cut him now. But to say his contributions to the team have been disappointing is an understatement, and given his history, it seems unlikely he will ever live up to the deal.
It seems to me the guy only cares about getting paid, and his actions thus far (and for his whole career) reflect that.
Given his history? The 24 touchdowns over the last 2 seasons, is that part of his history?
He broke his hand in preseason, and now you think we should cut him? You are insane.
I cannot believe some of the idiotic things that are posted on this message board.
Quote:If a locker room full of all time greats like Manning, Ware, Bailey, and others can't help instill the mentality in him to turn it around, what makes you think the locker room of one of the worst teams of the past decade can?
Yeah those all time greats could only muster a crappy 12 touchdowns per year from this sorry louse. That's turrible!! He's teh total suxors.
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Quote:Given his history? The 24 touchdowns over the last 2 seasons, is that part of his history?
He broke his hand in preseason, and now you think we should cut him? You are insane.
I cannot believe some of the idiotic things that are posted on this message board.
You're reading comprehension is really lacking, I said quite clearly it doesn't make sense to cut him. And yes, he has a lengthy injury history, and a long time history of his toughness and commitment to football being questioned by teammates and outside parties. Those are all manifesting themselves this season as well. Its nothing new for him. Its like you didn't even bother to read any of my posts in this thread.
Quote:Yeah those all time greats could only muster a crappy 12 touchdowns per year from this sorry louse. That's turrible!! He's teh total suxors.
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That has nothing to do with a championship mentality. Just because the body wears down does not mean that mind is useless, vets have always played an integral role in helping to cultivate younger teammates. The point was that if he isn't allowing himself to learn from some of the best the NFL has ever seen, what makes you think he will take direction from a coach and team that hasn't even been on the radar for years?
Quote:If a locker room full of all time greats like Manning, Ware, Bailey, and others can't help instill the mentality in him to turn it around, what makes you think the locker room of one of the worst teams of the past decade can?
Yet with that mentality he still performed. Not going to write him off because of an article that makes strong accusations. An article which would've blown up in the NFL offseason news cycle if it had any true substance.
Let the guy prove it before you bury him.
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That has nothing to do with a championship mentality. Just because the body wears down does not mean that mind is useless, vets have always played an integral role in helping to cultivate younger teammates. The point was that if he isn't allowing himself to learn from some of the best the NFL has ever seen...
What are you, his therapist?
I find it hilarious that his opening remarks to the media in Jacksonville were that he learned so much by playing with Peyton, Bailey and others and he was ready to share some of those things with some of his new young teammates -- and you seem to know so much better. I say you are full of it.
The dude is hurt and he's upset about getting off to a rough start in Jax due to injury. That is all I'm seeing.
He'll be good when he's healthy. Some of you guys are constantly chomping at the bit to find something to denigrate. It's pathetic.
There are no more straws to grasp at in this thread. The stance taken by a few has been dismantled. If he performs his motivation or lack there of is irrelevant.
Quote:What are you, his therapist?
I find it hilarious that his opening remarks to the media in Jacksonville were that he learned so much by playing with Peyton, Bailey and others and he was ready to share some of those things with some of his new young teammates -- and you seem to know so much better. I say you are full of it.
The dude is hurt and he's upset about getting off to a rough start in Jax due to injury. That is all I'm seeing.
He'll be good when he's healthy. Some of you guys are constantly chomping at the bit to find something to denigrate. It's pathetic.
If he learned so much, why is he still dealing with conditioning issues? You'd think a player in his position would be ready to capitalize on the opportunity given that he's grown so much. I don't know what a player like that can contribute to cultivating a winner's mentality for the younger teammates, but I doubt it's anything worthwhile.
Quote:If he learned so much, why is he still dealing with conditioning issues? You'd think a player in his position would be ready to capitalize on the opportunity given that he's grown so much. I don't know what a player like that can contribute to cultivating a winner's mentality for the younger teammates, but I doubt it's anything worthwhile.
LOL. Dealing with conditioning issues? You mean like every other player in the NFL? You're just making stuff up now.
Players get hurt playing football. A lot. He had screws in his hand two months ago. You remember that? Probably all that bad conditioning that broke his hand, right?
"A player like that" You mean the one with all the touchdowns?
"winners mentality" Jeez, you guys are hilarious. Where did you get your psycho-babble scouting report on the Jags roster? I didn't get mine.
Know what he'll contribute? Touchdowns. Nuff said.
Quote:LOL. Dealing with conditioning issues? You mean like every other player in the NFL? You're just making stuff up now.
Players get hurt playing football. A lot. He had screws in his hand two months ago. You remember that? Probably all that bad conditioning that broke his hand, right?
"A player like that" You mean the one with all the touchdowns?
"winners mentality" Jeez, you guys are hilarious. Where did you get your psycho-babble scouting report on the Jags roster? I didn't get mine.
Know what he'll contribute? Touchdowns. Nuff said.
Every player in the NFL is fat and out of shape? Okay, you're right, I'm the one making things up now.
Quote:Every player in the NFL is fat and out of shape? Okay, you're right, I'm the one making things up now.
He needs to spend some time on the bike and cut out a cheeseburger or two. I'll give you that.
Does that make him a bust? Hell no.
Quote:He needs to spend some time on the bike and cut out a cheeseburger or two. I'll give you that.
Does that make him a bust? Hell no.
He can still redeem himself, sure. But his arrival has been underwhelming, I think a lot of people were expecting much more. Its not an uncommon thing players fade after getting paid due to laziness and lack of commitment, and his track record isn't exactly promising. I'm just not very optimistic that he will ever live up to the billing, and I can't find an objective reason why I should be.
Quote:He can still redeem himself, sure. But his arrival has been underwhelming, I think a lot of people were expecting much more. Its not an uncommon thing players fade after getting paid due to laziness and lack of commitment, and his track record isn't exactly promising. I'm just not very optimistic that he will ever live up to the billing, and I can't find an objective reason why I should be.
I think he's just legitimately hurt. Not all of that stuff ^
If this groin injury isn't a major strain/tear, then we should learn something about him between November 8 and January 3rd.
I think writing him off now is foolish. I'll leave it at that and move on from the topic.
you guys are insane writing him off already. It's unfortunate he's been hurt but he has a ton of talent and looked pretty good against the Texans.