Quote:Because a trend is a trend. A DB hasn't broken past 5 in over 20 years. I don't see that changing for Jamaal Adams, who isn't Eric Berry as a prospect. If Ramsey, Berry, and Taylor couldn't break past 5 then I highly doubt Jamaal Adams will be the one to buck the trend.
Especially since we're more likely to sign a starting SS in free agency than draft one at 4.
That's a lot of oddly confident statements that only raise more questions. Why is there was some imaginary threshold where 5 is a good spot to pick DBs with great success, but 4 is just way too expensive? Why isn't Adams as good a prospect as Berry? Why is it likely we are going to sign a SS in free agency? I don't think any of them are cut and dry.
Adams, Berry...
Regardless, not good value for safety.
safety...
Even running back has better value there.
Quote:That's a lot of oddly confident statements that only raise more questions. Why is there was some imaginary threshold where 5 is a good spot to pick DBs with great success, but 4 is just way too expensive? Why isn't Adams as good a prospect as Berry? Why is it likely we are going to sign a SS in free agency? I don't think any of them are cut and dry.
I think Berry is a bit more of a ballhawk at creating turnovers. But I have said it before, Adams is like a magnet to the football when the play is alive kind of like Sean Talor was. Not saying he is Talor but kind of reminds of that. As much as I liked Collins a few years ago who was way underdrafted I like Adams better.
Quote:Adams, Berry...
Regardless, not good value for safety.
safety...
Even running back has better value there.
Chiefs and Redskins made a bad pick when Taylor and Berry were picked since it was bad value for a safety?
Quote:Chiefs and Redskins made a bad pick when Taylor and Berry were picked since it was bad value for a safety?
For a team that's set, it's understandable.
With a team that can get a premium pick at a more premium position, it's insanity.
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Not this era.
Pretending S is somehow premium, and that it's different than in the past, isn't being honest about the game of football or it's history.
It's creating talking points/narratives that sell. Which, is what gets talking heads paid.
Quote:For a team that's set, it's understandable.
With a team that can get a premium pick at a more premium position, it's insanity.
But what if it actually is a premium position in today's base nickel/hybrid defenses?
Quote:For a team that's set, it's understandable.
With a team that can get a premium pick at a more premium position, it's insanity.
Those teams were far from set but turned out to be great picks. No team is set that is picking in the top 5 lol
I get the arguments here are reflexive, that's fine. You overvalue safety, and that's cool. Just recognize that's what's happening here.
Second round safeties would fulfill the role just as well as any we could select at four.
Can't say that about some of the more premium positions.
That's what makes the position, not just the pool of candidates, more premium.
Quote:I get the arguments here are reflexive, that's fine. You overvalue safety, and that's cool. Just recognize that's what's happening here.
Second round safeties would fulfill the role just as well as any we could select at four.
Can't say that about some of the more premium positions.
That's what makes the position, not just the pool of candidates, more premium.
Yeah, Cyp was so good we wont even give him a 2nd contract
Quote:Yeah, Cyp was good we wont even give him a 2nd contract
Old man is old.
Chiefs are letting Poe walk and they're giving Berry the money. Safety is extremely important in today's NFL.
Hey, as long as we're being ridiculous and dismissive of other's opinions, why not be fully inclusive?
Willie Wood was an elite safety but was picked up undrafted. But at least I'm not going to be intellectually dishonest and mistake one example for the rule.
Quote:Old man is old.
Chiefs are letting Poe walk and they're giving Berry the money. Safety is extremely important in today's NFL.
Neophyte is unwise.
Extremely important. Just like all the 22 positions. Just like your take being special. Just like everyone else's.
Quote:I get the arguments here are reflexive, that's fine. You overvalue safety, and that's cool. Just recognize that's what's happening here.
Second round safeties would fulfill the role just as well as any we could select at four.
Can't say that about some of the more premium positions.
That's what makes the position, not just the pool of candidates, more premium.
There isn't a bulletproof prospect at any more premium position, if there was it might be different. Adams blends safe, clean, and upside better than anyone else in the draft after Garrett.
Quote:Neophyte is unwise.
Extremely important. Just like all the 22 positions. Just like your take being special. Just like everyone else's.
You dang kids and your hippity hop music. Back in my day you didn't need a safety. Heck... we would play with 10 men instead of having a safety.
Quote:You dang kids and your hippity hop music. Back in my day you didn't need a safety. Heck... we would play with 10 men instead of having a safety.
Yup, not intelligent or emotionally intelligent enough to have a conversation at the adult table.
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