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Quote:Didn't Lamping say before that the London game accounted for like 20% of the teams local revenue?  Seems a good reason to keep doing it. 
 

I have no idea what you are talking about. Why would playing outside the United States bring more money to Jacksonville?
Quote:I have no idea what you are talking about. Why would playing outside the United States bring more money to Jacksonville?


Take a peek at the US currency exchange rate for starters.
Quote:Those teams have been around much longer than the Jags have, and have had a lot of success with a loyal fan-base backing them up. The past 10 years don't matter here anymore, and Weaver made it clear he didn't want to move the team out of Jax - which is probably the reason why we didn't. Even when giving ownership to Khan, he personally asked him to keep the team in Jacksonville. I don't think Khan wants to move the team at all, and he's made it clear with his future plans for the city/team. Although, it'd be silly to think that there is no chance the team will move and its here for good... Anything can happen.


Sure anything can happen. That doesn't mean it's likely to happen. Jerry Jones could pack up his team tomorrow and move to Mexico City because anything could happen.
Quote:I have no idea what you are talking about. Why would playing outside the United States bring more money to Jacksonville?
 

They gain "local revenue" from hosting over there. And they get exclusive rights to advertising and things that no other team gets.
If Mark Davis is willing to sell, I could see Kroenke buying the Raiders, moving them to Inglewood. And then the league finding an owner wiling to stay in St Louis and help get the new stadium built there.

Quote:Its been bad the past 10 years yet nothing has happened. In 75+ years of football a team has yet to move due to ticket sales. Do you think the fans of the Browns, the Bills, the Raiders, and the Lions and Bengals of the past aren't tired of losing? And they've been losing long than the Jags have been around. Yet they still show up to the games and the team is still supported. Maybe not to the fullest extent, but it's still supported. Regardless, ticket sales are only a small portion of the overall revenue stream and the NFL has reached such a high level of popularity an owner doesn't really have to do anything at this point to turn a profit. Just look at what the team is worth now compared to three years ago when Khan bought it.


Ding ding ding. In fact ticket revenues have become less important to the point that the NFL put a moratorium on the blackout rules this season
Maybe Shad is a big Tool fan.

Quote:They gain "local revenue" from hosting over there. And they get exclusive rights to advertising and things that no other team gets.
 

So the Bills don't get advertising rights and other stuff for playing there this season because they are the "away" team?

 

Besides the Jaguars having a multi-year contract to play at Wembly, I wonder how the NFL decides who else plays in London.
Quote:So the Bills don't get advertising rights and other stuff for playing there this season because they are the "away" team?

 

Besides the Jaguars having a multi-year contract to play at Wembly, I wonder how the NFL decides who else plays in London.
 

If I remember correctly Jacksonville is the only team that captures 100% of the ticket sales revenue, the other teams that play there do a 90/10 or 80/20 split I don't remember.  Jacksonville also gains revenue from any sponsorship deals over there, this is counted as "local revenue", I seem to remember Lamping speaking on this. 
Quote:Ding ding ding. In fact ticket revenues have become less important to the point that the NFL put a moratorium on the blackout rules this season
 

The blackout rule change was an FCC mandate, not what the NFL wanted.
MissJags, the team gains aLOT of revenue playing over there. 

For starters the seat tickets are all over $100 US, and the stadium holds over 80,00 if memory serves.

The revenue helps keep the Jags viable here, so giving up one home game is a small price to pay until they build their fan base.

 

There are many posts about this here going back years, the search button is your friend.

Without reading all the pages here I'm thinking "Plan C" is to have 1 or 2 games a year in LA with various teams

I love how some folks want a team or teams in LA. It has worked so well in the past.

LA without a team works out better. This way teams can use the market as a way to get a stadium built at home. The Falcons did. So did the Vikings and Dolphins. 

Quote:I love how some folks want a team or teams in LA. It has worked so well in the past.
Only reason it hasn't was because of Stadium Issues.

 

And Georgia Frontier (IDC to spell her name right) being a [BAD WORD REMOVED].

 

It ain't the fans.

Quote:LA without a team works out better. This way teams can use the market as a way to get a stadium built at home. The Falcons did. So did the Vikings and Dolphins.


It'll still be the same once LA gets a team. Just replace LA with San Antonio or Toronto, or London etc.
Dodgers 1st in 2015 Avg. home attendance per game

 

http://espn.go.com/mlb/attendance

 

Lakers (Being god awful) 11th in 2014-2015 Avg. home attendance per game.

 

Clippers were 9th.

 

http://espn.go.com/nba/attendance/_/year/2015

 

Kings 15th in Avg.  home attendance 

 

http://espn.go.com/nhl/attendance/_/year/2015

 

Galaxy 7th in Avg attendance

 

http://mlsattendance.blogspot.com/

 

UCLA 19th in the nation in Avg home attendance 76,650 per game in 2014.

 

http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/football_r...e/2014.pdf

 

 

Yeah, having an NFL team in LA is not going to work  Wallbash

Quote:Just throwing this out there.  What if "plan C" is something like the overseas games where teams would play a "home game" in LA?  After all, LA is pretty foreign to most people.
This is what I got out of it. Have different teams play maybe even weekly in LA. I mean LA doesnt really want a team they just want to watch games. So if they dont have a team they wont care about W/L record and can just enjoy whatever game is coming this week(or month or however they set up) but yeah...
Quote:This is what I got out of it. Have different teams play maybe even weekly in LA. I mean LA doesnt really want a team they just want to watch games. So if they dont have a team they wont care about W/L record and can just enjoy whatever game is coming this week(or month or however they set up) but yeah...
 

The thought kind of came to me since Shahid Khan seems to "think out of the box".  He is creative enough to where I think that he could come up with something that is profitable enough for the other owners to support.
Quote:This is what I got out of it. Have different teams play maybe even weekly in LA. I mean LA doesnt really want a team they just want to watch games. So if they dont have a team they wont care about W/L record and can just enjoy whatever game is coming this week(or month or however they set up) but yeah...
Where do you get that logic?

You're not even from So Cal.
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