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Quote:It'll still be the same once LA gets a team. Just replace LA with San Antonio or Toronto, or London etc.

 

Probably. Tom Benson was using San Antonio to get a new deal in New Orleans before Katrina.

It makes you wonder if he wants the team to lose to justify the low seat sales in order to move the team to a more profitable area?

Quote:It makes you wonder if he wants the team to lose to justify the low seat sales in order to move the team to a more profitable area?

Nope because according to the lease it would have to be 3 years before he can break his lease. Feel free to read this

 

 

http://jacksonville.com/tu-online/storie...hzfYvlVhHw

Quote:It makes you wonder if he wants the team to lose to justify the low seat sales in order to move the team to a more profitable area?

 

No it doesn't. Why would he put his own money into stadium upgrades that increase revenue? Use your brain.

Quote:It makes you wonder if he wants the team to lose to justify the low seat sales in order to move the team to a more profitable area?

Why would he be spending large amounts of his own money to improve a stadium if he intended to leave it in short order?

plan C is simple,moveing Jags to london. that will happen. sooner then later. if not in 2016,it will be done in 2017. 

Quote:plan C is simple,moveing Jags to london. that will happen. sooner then later. if not in 2016,it will be done in 2017.

I think you needs to make a video and show us all how upset you are..

Quote:Nope because according to the lease it would have to be 3 years before he can break his lease. Feel free to read this

 

 

http://jacksonville.com/tu-online/storie...hzfYvlVhHw

 

I didnt mean he would do it this year, but he might move the team in the future...

Plan C is Brock Lesnar.

Quote:No it doesn't. Why would he put his own money into stadium upgrades that increase revenue? Use your brain.

Quote:No it doesn't. Why would he put his own money into stadium upgrades that increase revenue? Use your brain.

  

Quote:Why would he be spending large amounts of his own money to improve a stadium if he intended to leave it in short order?

You guys are funny. If a team is moved to LA, the franchise's value increases a half a billion. A chump change scoreboard is an easy loss.

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You guys are funny. If a team is moved to LA, the franchise's value increases a half a billion. A chump change scoreboard is an easy loss.

 

A "chump change" scoreboard?!?! Khan sunk $20 million worth of his own money into a $63 million upgrade and you're calling that chump change?!

 

I could not disagree with you any harder than I am doing right now.

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You guys are funny. If a team is moved to LA, the franchise's value increases a half a billion. A chump change scoreboard is an easy loss.

 

You are missing the point. It's not like Khan can simply walk away from Jacksonville if he chooses. Breaking the lease is tied to being able to prove the team is losing money. Why would he spend his own money to improve the stadium knowing that those improvements are going to increase revenue? 

 

And it isn't just the scoreboard. It's the new premium seating added in the NEZ

Quote:Nope because according to the lease it would have to be 3 years before he can break his lease. Feel free to read this

 

 

http://jacksonville.com/tu-online/storie...hzfYvlVhHw

They've subsequently changed the lease a couple of times, including when the last round of renovations started to assure that it's even more iron clad than it was when this article was written. 

 

This notion that Khan could eventually move the team may have had some validity right after he took over.  The investments he's made in the scoreboards, NEZ upgrades, locker room and club upgrades, and their future plans to completely revamp the club sections to give them better views of the field from inside, as well as the agreement to build a state of the art practice facility are all signs of a more significant commitment to the city than anyone anticipated 4 years ago when he bought the team. Add to that his significant investments in the local economy with real estate investments downtown, and investments in local businesses, along with the shipyard project, and it's even more obvious that his goal is to take this small market and turn it into something far more significant.  What Shad Khan has repeatedly shown is that, unlike those still looking for an angle to play up the relocation talk, he has a long-term vision for this team and this city.  I can't see him abandoning that.

Quote:You are missing the point. It's not like Khan can simply walk away from Jacksonville if he chooses. Breaking the lease is tied to being able to prove the team is losing money. Why would he spend his own money to improve the stadium knowing that those improvements are going to increase revenue? 

 

And it isn't just the scoreboard. It's the new premium seating added in the NEZ

 

Based on the lease, he would have to prove in court that the team has lost money in 3 consecutive seasons.  In order to do so, he would have to open ALL of the books for a judge to review.  The NFL will never allow that to happen, and it would be impossible for him to show a loss for 3 years in a row based on where the team is today compared to when he bought the franchise. 

 

You're right that the scoreboard isn't the only thing.  All told, he's got almost a billion dollars invested in the team itself, and probably another $200 million that he's pumped into the team, facilities, and the local economy, and he's just getting started.  The Shipyards project alone is a billion dollar investment easily.  That ain't chump change.

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You guys are funny. If a team is moved to LA, the franchise's value increases a half a billion. A chump change scoreboard is an easy loss.

 

Honestly, how does this matter?  I don't get the impression Shad has any intention of selling this team any time soon, whether it be here or in LA, so the value of his franchise has little to no effect on what he's earning.

 

The teams also split ticket and merchandise revenue, which means that 20 million for "a chump change scoreboard" just got a whole lot more significant.  Without selling the team, it would likely take him a very long time to earn back what he already has spent, plus what he would have earned had he stayed put.  It just doesn't make business sense, unless he's selling the team or the stadium is in shambles/lease is ending, which ours isn't.

I'm not saying that Khan's going to move the team, just that the premise of a 63 million dollar scoreboard being the handcuff that keeps the Jags in Jax is absolutely absurd.

In Madden 25 he moved the team to Chicago and named them the Chicago Blues.