Quote:Bravo!
For point of clarification, Greene was on the left side of the formation crossing over the middle, correct?
The Linebacker was right there and he only came open once the pass was intercepted. I do like the idea of the TE releasing but as soon as the running back leaves the backfield the defense is keying on "pass".
You should always go into shotgun 4 wide.
press x, y, b, a.... whoever is open...
sometimes you'll have to dump it off to RB/RT
unless you play on PS... then it'll be square, circle, triangle, or x
and r1 or r2 i believe
Quote:The Linebacker was right there and he only came open once the pass was intercepted. I do like the idea of the TE releasing but as soon as the running back leaves the backfield the defense is keying on "pass".
Watch it again, the LB was backpedaling and was focused on the TE.
I think when the offense is having trouble moving the ball and the opposing D is licking their chops, throw a significant wrinkle at them. Put D-Rob in the Wildcat with Bortles at TE. Or put in the short yardage package and see if Pierce or Toby can break a long run. Get the D scrambling to adjust. Break the pattern that is clearly going against you.
Quote:Watch it again, the LB was backpedaling and was focused on the TE.
I have watched it from multiple cameras and the play was focused on the RB. In the preseason he was hitting that underneath route. But here in the season he was already going to the RB.
Quote:I have watched it from multiple cameras and the play was focused on the RB. In the preseason he was hitting that underneath route. But here in the season he was already going to the RB.
So what is it that you see that tells you that the WR wouldn't be open?
Quote:So what is it that you see that tells you that the WR wouldn't be open?
The ball was already out of Bortles hands and the play was flowing to the interception. If the play develops and Bortles doesn't lock on the running back, would the WR have been open? When I look at the endzone camera on MS NexGen the timing of the play shows the underneath WR open after the balls out. Now earlier the TD play the seperation wasn't there and it was a nice throw and good play by Green.
Am I being overly critical of playcalling? Maybe that is the history of the past years weighing in.
Quote:The ball was already out of Bortles hands and the play was flowing to the interception. If the play develops and Bortles doesn't lock on the running back, would the WR have been open? When I look at the endzone camera on MS NexGen the timing of the play shows the underneath WR open after the balls out. Now earlier the TD play the seperation wasn't there and it was a nice throw and good play by Green.
Am I being overly critical of playcalling? Maybe that is the history of the past years weighing in.
I disagree (admittedly based solely on the vine replay).
I see two LBs in the alignment and they are inside...as if in a base nickel (4-2-5)
The motion by Yeldon shifts a DB and the LB towards the left side of the defense.
At the snap, the LB to the left side of the defense (Davis) fans out to cover the slot receiver, presumably in a hook zone.
The other LB (looks like Kuechly) goes to his right to cover the TE in the hook zone to the offensive left. His coverage drop takes him back four yards from the 30 to the 34.
The DB to the right of Kuechly is aligned just inside of Greene. At the snap, he fans out into a short zone outside, releasing Greene inside.
By the time Bortles plants his back foot and before throwing the ball. Greene has executed his cut and is headed into the area Kuechly vacated.
Kuechly has not begun to drive towards the ball. He is still with the TE.
I see it as Speedy G saw it. Bortles decided pre snap he was going to Yeldon. I think if he went through the progression, he hits Greene on the crossing pattern because the TE clears out the LB inside, while the slot to the right occupies the other LB.
Before Bortles throws the ball, the clear out action of the TE is already accomplished. The receiver is just breaking into his route. He would have had a wide open spot underneath.
Quote:The ball was already out of Bortles hands and the play was flowing to the interception. If the play develops and Bortles doesn't lock on the running back, would the WR have been open? When I look at the endzone camera on MS NexGen the timing of the play shows the underneath WR open after the balls out. Now earlier the TD play the seperation wasn't there and it was a nice throw and good play by Green.
Am I being overly critical of playcalling? Maybe that is the history of the past years weighing in.
The problem wasn't the call, it was the read. Bortles missed the read.
Interesting. Listening to David Garrard from this morning's show, he said everything started because the slot receiver didn't get off the jam.
He was saying because the slot didn't get off the jam, he didn't back the CB off.
It's real early...around the 3:00 mark
Quote:I bench Blake Bortles whom appeared rattle in the 2nd half after throwing his 2nd pick. I realize that the game is going to be a loss but show that no position is guaranteed on the team if you fail to perform (knowing full well that Bortles gives you the best chance to come back & win the game) but hope that it can be a rally point for the rest of the Offense to play better.
No quarterback wins games when his receivers drop key passes! So pull the quarterback and leave the receives that are dropping passes in the game that sounds like a good adjustment.
Quote:You had success running the ball earlier in the game, but you are behind and time is becoming a factor.
You can't spend too much time running the ball.
Of course, if you do this, there will be people who will say you are being too conservative. You still run the ball?
You're still only 1 score behind at that point. No need to abandon the run, especially when the Panthers would be pinning their ears back coming after the QB with the LT out of the game.
I can't link to the MS NextGen Replay because it is a Windows 10 Application. Most of my commentary is based on the multiple camera angles it presented. The sideline camera shows the bad read definitely. The Endzone angle shows the TE and WR clearing more after the ball was out of Bortles hands. It was a very quick play. And also that endzone camera is the reason I said earlier in the thread that Yeldon's route wasn't crisp.
Honestly it isn't really the coaches cut ups so it probably is overlooking one play out of a day of mistakes.
Quote:I can't link to the MS NextGen Replay because it is a Windows 10 Application. Most of my commentary is based on the multiple camera angles it presented. The sideline camera shows the bad read definitely. The Endzone angle shows the TE and WR clearing more after the ball was out of Bortles hands. It was a very quick play. And also that endzone camera is the reason I said earlier in the thread that Yeldon's route wasn't crisp.
Honestly it isn't really the coaches cut ups so it probably is overlooking one play out of a day of mistakes.
The WR definitely becomes "open" after the ball is thrown (as is usually the case). However, you can see how the defense was reacting even before Blake threw it. The corner on the bottom (vs. Walters) was sitting on the curl route. The nickel corner was also dropping back. This leaves the LB being responsible for Greene. As you can see, as soon as the TE runs up field, the LB starts to go with him. If Blake sees Norman and goes through progression, he'd have Greene open because the LB was dropping. You can see even after Blake threw the ball that the LB was slow to stop and change directions. He was far enough upfield that I don't think he could have stopped and stepped in front of Greene.
And yes, I agree that Yeldon's route was very lazy and rounded which probably played a part into why Norman jumped it.
It is an interesting contrast to the Greene touchdown play. In that play the defense had the receivers blanketed. Greene made a really good play on the ball and Bortles put it where he could grab it.
It seems unlike the preseason, Blake is going with the called play and is not working his reads. With the defense actually game planning, I think the idea of pressure got to him a little. Probably part of the learning process. Trust is a big part of playing together and it just doesn't seem like we have had a team of players for quite sometime. Drops really are a killer and disruptive for an offense.