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So let's discriminate against others. Perfect solution.

Quote:So let's discriminate against others. Perfect solution.

 

 That's not how I see it but to each his/ her own.  

Not sure people understand the historical pretext of the 1st amendment. And it's quite clear from historical documents that "separation of church and state" currently means exactly opposite of what it originally meant.


Also from Jeffersons own words "Power to prescribe any religious excercise must rest with the States". But what's truly amazing in Records from 1789 clearly show never were the words mentioned of Seperation of Church and State.

All this proves is that civil liberties trumps Religious freedom.


It's okay for me to have my religious rights be violated to 'respect' or appease others.

Quote:  Like I previously said,  if I were in her position,  unless I received legal advice to do otherwise,  I would resign.   But there's absolutely no circumstance in the world that would lead me to issue the licenses or have someone else in the department issue them as long as I'm head of the department.   

 

She can't be fired so why resign? What is happening is exactly what she wants.

 

She will be impeached in a few months and then she will get her book deal, probably a documentary by Dinesh D'Souza, go on the right wing talk show circuit. Maybe even get her own show on Fox.

Quote:She can't be fired so why resign? What is happening is exactly what she wants.


She will be impeached in a few months and then she will get her book deal, probably a documentary by Dinesh D'Souza, go on the right wing talk show circuit. Maybe even get her own show on Fox.

She is an elected Democrat.


When the narrative doesn't fit your labels? Now what?

Quote:She is an elected Democrat.


Lol when the narrative doesn't fit your labels?

 

I am aware and it does not change any of what I said. 

Quote:All this proves is that civil liberties trumps Religious freedom.


It's okay for me to have my religious rights be violated to 'respect' or appease others.

Yeah, it's so unfair.  I can't go get elected as a county clerk and refuse to give black people marriage licenses.  Or interracial couples.  Because it goes against my beliefs.  I have to go against them to 'respect' or appease others.

Quote:She can't be fired so why resign? What is happening is exactly what she wants.

 

She will be impeached in a few months and then she will get her book deal, probably a documentary by Dinesh D'Souza, go on the right wing talk show circuit. Maybe even get her own show on Fox.

 

It's very possible that resigning is the only viable option for Kim Davis.   I think Kim Davis should speak to as many highly qualified attorneys as possible though.  

Quote:Yeah, it's so unfair. I can't go get elected as a county clerk and refuse to give black people marriage licenses. Or interracial couples. Because it goes against my beliefs. I have to go against them to 'respect' or appease others.

What standard religion holds those as tentets of their faith?

Quote:Yeah, it's so unfair. I can't go get elected as a county clerk and refuse to give black people marriage licenses. Or interracial couples. Because it goes against my beliefs. I have to go against them to 'respect' or appease others.

How does playing the race card applies to having your religious beliefs be violated?

Quote:How does playing the race card applies to having your religious beliefs be violated?

In this scenario, it's against my religious beliefs that black people get married.  Especially to a white person.

Quote:What standard religion holds those as tentets of their faith?

Christianity until recently.


Besides, why only give standard religions their rights?  Don't all religions deserve the same rights?  Or just the most popular ones?


Regardless.  Does this mean we can have Sharia Law now?  

Quote:Christianity until recently.


Besides, why only give standard religions their rights? Don't all religions deserve the same rights? Or just the most popular ones?


Regardless. Does this mean we can have Sharia Law now?

Not sure Book of Mormon, Quran, Bible or any other faith documents have disallowed blacks from marrying.


Also standard means established we can't run of and create a church o cannabis to appease the law.


I am not even a fan of Kim. But I do think this country has bastardized the 1st amendment and we have plent of historical text from our founders that prove it. It is now the complete opposite of its intent.

Quote:Not sure Book of Mormon, Quran, Bible or any other faith documents have disallowed blacks from marrying.


Also standard means established we can't run of and create a church o cannabis to appease the law.

 

Why not?  If it's a sincerely held belief, why can't we?  Why do 'established' religions get preference?  All that should matter is that it's a sincerely held belief.

Quote:It's very possible that resigning is the only viable option for Kim Davis.   I think Kim Davis should speak to as many highly qualified attorneys as possible though.  

 

I am sure they are beating down her door.

Quote:Why not? If it's a sincerely held belief, why can't we? Why do 'established' religions get preference? All that should matter is that it's a sincerely held belief.

Cause that's not Religion.


I wouldn't do it but I get why she is doing it. Quite frankly the people need to fix the problem. Do not elect people who won't fulfill their duties.

Quote:In this scenario, it's against my religious beliefs that black people get married. Especially to a white person.

And you don't have to marry interracial couples.


This may blow your mind but probably in the boondocks there are many pastors who share the same sentiment. It's how they feel.

Quote:I am sure they are beating down her door.

The Judge told her if she interferes she'll go to prison.  At this point she just wants to be a martyr for her cause.  Of course reasonable people will see that she's no martyr, and that she's putting herself in jail by not following the court order to not interfere with other clerks doing their job.  She doesn't need a lawyer.  A little common sense would go a long way.

Quote:And you don't have to marry interracial couples.


This may blow your mind but probably in the boondocks there are many pastors who share the same sentiment. It's how they feel.

Except I'm not a Pastor in this scenario.  I'm a court clerk, and I'm not allowing my employees to issue marriage certificates to interracial couples.