The NFL is holding teams hostage to a degree. If a city wants to host a Superbowl game at any time, they must commit to playing a game there.
I've said it before. The home game away is all about money. It is not conducive to winning. Home games are an advantage, which in turn may lead to wins, which in turn may lead to a playoff run. That is the expectations fans have. Take another home game away and my season tickets will turn into a new TV and a scrip to all NFL games like red zone and NFL ticket.
It's not only short changing fans of a home game, but lessens the possibilities of finally getting some post season action here.
It's tough for me to take after so many years if I believe that wins are secondary .
Hopefully they will be away games.
Quote:The NFL is holding teams hostage to a degree. If a city wants to host a Superbowl game at any time, they must commit to playing a game there.
I've said it before. The home game away is all about money. It is not conducive to winning. Home games are an advantage, which in turn may lead to wins, which in turn may lead to a playoff run. That is the expectations fans have. Take another home game away and my season tickets will turn into a new TV and a scrip to all NFL games like red zone and NFL ticket.
It's not only short changing fans of a home game, but lessens the possibilities of finally getting some post season action here.
It's tough for me to take after so many years if I believe that wins are secondary .
Hopefully they will be away games.
Imagine them taking our post-season game(s) and putting them in London.
Quote:Imagine them taking our post-season game(s) and putting them in London.
Talk about the most unrealistic hypothetical that anybody has come up with.
Quote:I don't see a franchise going to London because of travel, visa and passport controls. To bring someone in for a workout could be a nightmare and would require a US based location anyway. I think the league will push for the 17th game and then leverage that extra game for international games with other teams involved.
I think the move to 18 games is coming, and I think part of that move will be taking one home game (the eighteenth game) away from each team to be played internationally in London, Mexico, China, wherever there's an NFL-sized stadium that the league thinks it can fill. It's possible that certain teams will be informally "assigned" to various cities worldwide to develop a local following there, like the Jags in London, but I don't think an overseas team is likely to happen anytime soon. In fact, the only international team I could see happening would be one in Canada, and even that's a longshot given the presence of the CFL and the likely objection of the Bills to an NFL team being placed in the eastern part of the country.
It would be the most fair solution, with every team playing one home game and one away game abroad per year.
Quote:Imagine them taking our post-season game(s) and putting them in London.
In the words of the immortal Vic Ketchman, "I wouldn't worry about that."
Quote:Imagine them taking our post-season game(s) and putting them in London.
That's something that will never happen.
Quote:Imagine them taking our post-season game(s) and putting them in London.
Quote:That's something that will never happen.
Ha ha ha...yeah. Post season...lol
I do like the idea of a Jag away game being played in London, creating a second game there without the expense of another home game lost from The Bank. I think the negative brought up that it would not be fair to the home team coming in is minimal.
Each team will play one game in London every other year.
16 teams per year = 8 games = a full London Home schedule. Its like having a team without all the BS one team would never overcome.
The change of teams is beneficial. We talk about unionjax but Dallas, Pittsburgh, Green Bay…they all have fan clubs in the UK/Europe.
Teams only lose one home game every other year. You might go back to back years, but it will all even out.
Win for the NFL, Win for London, Minimal loss for the US Fans, Win for the $
Quote:Agreed. Take another home game there and just call them the Unionjags. Once they start home games on a " pitch" I will do the same with my tix.
i love it when Americans use the British lingo calling a field a "pitch" and a team a "side"
also, wearing a scarf in 90 degree heat makes so much sense.
Quote:I don't see a franchise going to London because of travel, visa and passport controls. To bring someone in for a workout could be a nightmare and would require a US based location anyway. I think the league will push for the 17th game and then leverage that extra game for international games with other teams involved.
This is what I've been thinking the NFL's end game would be for a long time. The 17th game would be a win-win-win.
The league would get the extra revenue for having an extra game and spreading its brand.
The teams would get extra revenue and still get to have 8 regular season home games.
The player will feel like it's a win since they know the league is pushing for an 18 game schedule. They also will have their contracts go up by over 6% for the extra game. If they're smart they'd also push for a second bye week to go with agreeing to the extra game.
Furthermore, if this 17th game happens I don't think London would get all the games. I think they will be spread out all over the world and even some American cities that don't have a team. I'm thinking games will go to places like London, Paris, Madrid, Barcelona, Munich, Berlin, Johannesburg, Tokyo, Mexico City, Rio, Sydney and American cities like San Antonio, Portland, Memphis, Birmingham, Orlando, Oklahoma City. I know some of these cities have stadium issues (i.e., Birmingham) but I'm thinking 5 - 7 years from now when those issues might be resolved. I could see these cities bidding to host these games like college bowl games. The NFL would make tons.
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<div>You've probably all seen the news that the NFL has agreed to play 2 games a year at Tottenham's new stadium from 2018 onward (it's a 10 year agreement !)
http://www.nfluk.com/news/article-1/NFL-...3f0ecb031f
Thoughts ?
I imagine Wembley will want to keep its profitable International Series games too, so this is more games heading to our side of the Atlantic and it raises the prospect of more Jaguars games being played over here. And maybe the prospect of a (new) permanent franchise here.
On one hand I'm pleased that there is a guarantee of games here until 2028, but I'd prefer to see those games played at Wembley. And I really think the Jaguars leadership might see this and think about playing two games a year on the artificial pitch they are installing...
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I don't see the Jags playing a second game a year in the UK unless it's an away game here and there. In general, I think a rotating schedule of 4 games or so with possibly some regular appearances by certain teams. I think as soon as other smaller market teams see how much the Jags are making, they'll be eager to volunteer to sacrifice a home game as well. As far as a full-time franchise in the UK, I wouldn't rule it out but I do doubt it. The NFL Europe showed that soccer will remain king in Europe regardless.
If we end up playing more than 1 home game away from jacksonville, I will not renew my season tickets. The line has to be drawn somewhere.
Quote:China?
At any rate, I'm thinking you'd have to have an even number of games in order for each team to have the same amount of home games meaning it would have to be 18 and not just one more game.
Just about wherever there's an NFL-sized stadium that Rog thinks he can fill, even China.
18 games is coming. 17 games won't happen for the exact reason you stated. Some teams would have 9 home games, others would have 8.
Quote:I do recall talk of the possibility of back-to-back London games where one of them is a road game, and that much makes plenty of sense, but you're right to not expect a second home game away from home. As for Wembley, the stands are too far away from the field where the crowd noise is considerably limited compared to most league stadiums. I do wonder if the other stadium might off more of a typical NFL experience.
The atmosphere in Wembley is still usually pretty good, however the best viable stadium for the game would be the Millenium Stadium in Cardiff, it's big enough and it just soaks up and traps all the noise in the stadium it's an amazing ground for that.
Quote:Just about wherever there's an NFL-sized stadium that Rog thinks he can fill, even China.
18 games is coming. 17 games won't happen for the exact reason you stated. Some teams would have 9 home games, others would have 8.
The 17th game would really just be a neutral site game. Each team would have 8 home and away games plus the neutral site game. If the Panthers and Lions play a game in China, is either team really a home team? It'd be a little bit different for Buffalo in Toronto and Jacksonville in London, but no other teams really stake a claim to any out of market locations.
Quote:The atmosphere in Wembley is still usually pretty good, however the best viable stadium for the game would be the Millenium Stadium in Cardiff, it's big enough and it just soaks up and traps all the noise in the stadium it's an amazing ground for that.
Millennium Stadium would be a great place for an NFL game were it not for one major issue; it's in Cardiff.