With so long to go until the draft it's too early to "book" anything. Players we thought were certain to go in the top five will go out of favour (Gregory ?) and others will appear out of nowhere.


But Cleveland proved at the last draft that you can get a great trade if someone is desperate enough.

Nope. Already booked it

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I agree that we probably won't trade down.  If a team really wants Winston, he's going to go at the #2 spot IMO.

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I agree that we probably won't trade down.  If a team really wants Winston, he's going to go at the #2 spot IMO.

 

His off-field behavior could make teams not want to trade up for him.

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His off-field behavior could make teams not want to trade up for him.

Well that's obviously the "wrench" in his draft stock.  If he didn't have those issues there would unlikely be any debate if he would fall out of the top 2.

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Well that's obviously the "wrench" in his draft stock.  If he didn't have those issues there would unlikely be any debate if he would fall out of the top 2.

 

Actually there would be. The Titans said Zach Mettenberger is their future quarterback. Multiple NFL.com articles state they may not want to draft a quarterback because of that. If those reports are accurate, there is no way he will be a top two pick.

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Actually there would be. The Titans said Zach Mettenberger is their future quarterback. Multiple NFL.com articles state they may not want to draft a quarterback because of that. If those reports are accurate, there is no way he will be a top two pick.

Yes, because it all reality it would be a Luck/RG3 situation (not saying either prospect is as good as Luck) where there would be multiple teams scrambling to trade with the Titans.  And that's if they decide they want Mett.  Highly touted QB prospects rarely fall.  IMO, Winston with a good head on his shoulders would be one of the best QB prospects in the past decade behind Luck.

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Yes, because it all reality it would be a Luck/RG3 situation (not saying either prospect is as good as Luck) where there would be multiple teams scrambling to trade with the Titans.  And that's if they decide they want Mett.  Highly touted QB prospects rarely fall.  IMO, Winston with a good head on his shoulders would be one of the best QB prospects in the past decade behind Luck.

 

Are you a Seminoles fan? Marcus Mariota is far better than Jameis Winston on the field, not just off it. And highly touted quarterbacks do fall at a higher rate than you think - often because they are grossly overrated.

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Are you a Seminoles fan? Marcus Mariota is far better than Jameis Winston on the field, not just off it. And highly touted quarterbacks do fall at a higher rate than you think - often because they are grossly overrated.

No I'm not, but I think he'd be a better prospect than Mariota if they guy had his stuff together off the field.

 

If someone overrates them, wouldn't they get drafted sooner rather than later?  Regardless, it's not very often one falls.  How many QBs can you name picked after the first round that have had NFL success (other than Tom Brady)?  Teams know to succeed in this league you have to have a good QB.

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No I'm not, but I think he'd be a better prospect than Mariota if they guy had his stuff together off the field.

 

If someone overrates them, wouldn't they get drafted sooner rather than later?  Regardless, it's not very often one falls.  How many QBs can you name picked after the first round that have had NFL success (other than Tom Brady)?  Teams know to succeed in this league you have to have a good QB.

 

Joe Montana and Russell Wilson were third round picks. Brett Favre, Drew Brees, Andy Dalton, and Colin Kaepernick were second round picks. Derek Carr is not the reason Oakland sucks, so I guess you could count him too.

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Joe Montana and Russell Wilson were third round picks. Brett Favre, Drew Brees, Andy Dalton, and Colin Kaepernick were second round picks. Derek Carr is not the reason Oakland sucks, so I guess you could count him too.

Kaepernick and Dalton aren't good and are fighting for their jobs next year.  Carr still hasn't proven anything.

 

So you listed four QBs in the past 30 years.  Two of which were drafted in a completely different era.  Tell me how that isn't very rare when you consider all of the QBs drafted.

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Kaepernick and Dalton aren't good and are fighting for their jobs next year. Carr still hasn't proven anything.

 

So you listed four QBs in the past 30 years. Two of which were drafted in a completely different era. Tell me how that isn't very rare when you consider all of the QBs drafted.

 

Andy Dalton never had to fight for his job. What are you talking about?

 

I have no idea why you think the round a quarterback is drafted in has anything to do with what I said earlier.

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Andy Dalton never had to fight for his job. What are you talking about?

 

I have no idea why you think the round a quarterback is drafted in has anything to do with what I said earlier.

I said next year, did I not?

 

Are you serious?  You said that good QBs fall all the time and then I asked you to provide names of QBs that have fallen out of the first that are good. 

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Are you serious?  You said that good QBs fall all the time and then I asked you to provide names of QBs that have fallen out of the first that are good. 

 

"Fall all the time" refers to guys who were expected to be top five picks before the combine - Aaron Rodgers, Brady Quinn, Teddy Bridgewater, etc. Geno Smith is the only second rounder who was projected to be picked that high four months before the draft.

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I continue to insist that Winston is the more NFL Ready prospect and it would not surprise me in the least if Lovie Smith drafts him ahead of Mariota of Oregon.

 

Tampa is not far off from being a good team and in the NFC South, a quality QB could bring them to the top of their division.

 

Mariota does not seem to fit Lovie Smith's offense at least not the one he had in Chicago.

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If Williams is there at 3, we have to take him. If the Titans take him (which I think is possible unless both QB's have amazing pro days) then someone will likely want to trade for the QB not taken. Too many teams are missing QBs.


I want Williams but if not, we will get a trade partner. We filled a lot of gaps, and I actually believe we should address RT, TE and FS in free agency if possible. There aren't any home run players in the draft for those positions

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If Williams is there at 3, we have to take him. If the Titans take him (which I think is possible unless both QB's have amazing pro days) then someone will likely want to trade for the QB not taken. Too many teams are missing QBs.


I want Williams but if not, we will get a trade partner. We filled a lot of gaps, and I actually believe we should address RG, TE and FS in free agency if possible. There aren't any home run players in the draft for those positions

RG? Probably mean RT?

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There's always that one or two players that come out of no where i.e Mack that can garner e early selection. Hopefully we can benefit from that

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RG? Probably mean RT?

Sorry, yes I mean RT. RG is obviously sorted!

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