This is my mindset as well.  I fully expect to see the team seriously exploring their options to bring in a QB who will create competitions.  Bortles remains the starter for the time being, but if he's outplayed by someone during the lead up to 2017, he'll take a seat. 

 

The coaching staff is going to change.  That's a given at this point.  My guess is that Caldwell will be looking for a head coach with a track record in the NFL, and someone who has proven to be capable of developing struggling QBs into effective starters.  Bortles is going to have a significant impact on the decisions made with the new head coach.

 

   If everything is close to equal,  I definitely agree that hiring an experienced NFL HC would be the best course of action for the Jaguars.   And at the very least,  he would have to have an excellent plan in place to getting the most out of the QB position.   Including a list of viable Offensive Coordinator and QB Coach candidates.  

 

  Related to what you mentioned,  two of the reasons why Jim Caldwell was hired as Lions HC in 2014 was his in-depth plan to get the most out of Matthew Stafford and the QB participating in one of the team's interviews with Caldwell.    If Dave Caldwell believes strongly that Blake Bortles is still the Jaguars long term solution at QB,   why not at least get Bortles'  input on the direction of the coaching staff!

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Or he could make worst decisions because of the pressure he's feeling to perform

 

  If that turns out to be the case,  it's probably best the Jaguars go in another direction at the QB position.  

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I cant wait for this team to put itself into a bigger hole and get Romo with his huge contract so he can get injured during the pre season and be out for the year

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New Jersey Jaguars fan.

I say play Allen, it wont hurt and give Allen some experience, and see what he's got. BB5 needs to be accountable for his poor play. And benching him now would not allow him to further his bad habits. Nothing, the coaching staff or BB5 is working. Now is the time to replace players and see what the team has, in the backup and practice squad, maybe we find some good players. It sure wont hurt us anymore. We are looking at a maybe 3-13 season. So why not. :thanks:

Because Bradley is coaching for his life and Bortles is still the best option. Fire Gus and tell Marrone and Hackett to play Allen. Bortles needs to go work with his mechanics coach for 6 months. Or bring in Jordan Palmer on a permanent basis.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

(a)


look how Stafford throws the football, the ball placement, the velocity, how natural and quick his throwing motion is, he also can improvise on his throwing motion (throw side arm) to get the ball around defensive linemen and still have accuracy and velocity.


now look at Bortles.


Time for a new QB. The Jags front office made a mistake not drafting Carr and set the franchise back 4 more years.dead

dead on

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"Remember Red, Hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies."  - Andy Dufresne, The Shawshank Redemption

It's already been reported that he's dealing with arm fatigue. That's something that will only get worse as the season continues.

 

 

Precisely. It's the same thing we witnessed starting around this time during his rookie season.

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I'm personally against the idea of searching for some new qb. Simply put, I'm not quite ready to give up on Bortles, and I feel like Brandon Allen may very well be the next in line of a string of really good young qbs. I'm ready to kick Chenne to the curb and just go with Bortles and Allen next season. If we ultimately have to move on from Bortles, chances are by then Allen will be ready to play.


As for Bortles...


Right now he's broken. I've talked about how his arm appears to be shot after leading the league in passing attempts this year, and in this last game you could really see it at times. Others are quick to mention broken mechanics, and there are other theories. Clearly something is wrong, but I'm convinced he can be fixed. What Caldwell needs to do is go out and fine the best qb coach money can by. There is someone out there... I'm sure of it... who can look at Blake and will know exactly how to fix him. I'd also bring in Tom House for a refresher coarse.

You're delusional man. Bortles is toast. He's done. No Bueno.

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Precisely. It's the same thing we witnessed starting around this time during his rookie season.

Yup another Freddie T incident. 

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Precisely. It's the same thing we witnessed starting around this time during his rookie season.

Why have I never heard such a thing about any other QB ever?

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Why have I never heard such a thing about any other QB ever?

Just a few examples:

<a class="bbc_url" href='http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/09/elis-struggles-may-be-due-to-tired-arm/'>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/09/elis-struggles-may-be-due-to-tired-arm/</a>

<a class="bbc_url" href='http://m.newsok.com/article/5431422'>http://m.newsok.com/article/5431422</a>

<a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.patriotsgab.com/2007/08/16/bradys-approach-to-arm-fatigue-taking-it-easy/'>http://www.patriotsgab.com/2007/08/16/bradys-approach-to-arm-fatigue-taking-it-easy/</a>

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"Before you criticize a man, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, if he gets angry, he's a mile away and barefoot."

(a)


look how Stafford throws the football, the ball placement, the velocity, how natural and quick his throwing motion is, he also can improvise on his throwing motion (throw side arm) to get the ball around defensive linemen and still have accuracy and velocity.


now look at Bortles.


Time for a new QB. The Jags front office made a mistake not drafting Carr and set the franchise back 4 more years.

 

32 teams passed on him. 

 

But do know that Stafford was maligned for quite awhile, and is just now coming into his own.  

 

A lot of people said---and follow me here---that a lot of his numbers were due to being on bad teams in garbage time.

 

Imagine that.

 

Do you think the Lions regret not giving up on him 2-3 years ago?

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You're delusional man. Bortles is toast. He's done. No Bueno.

 

 

Take a look at Roethlisburger years 3 and 5, in comparison to Blake.

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Take a look at Roethlisburger years 3 and 5, in comparison to Blake.

Nah.

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Take a look at Roethlisburger years 3 and 5, in comparison to Blake.

Ben does have a bit of a wind up when throwing deep. Difference is he's accurate and quick on the short/intermediate routes.


If Blake can use his "on the run" throwing motion while in the pocket we'd be fine.

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IT WAS ALWAYS THE JAGS

Disagree. This is Henne's last year with the team. I see them exploring alternatives that will give them the ability to move on from Bortles if the struggles continue. I don't see Allen being that guy, so we're either going to go into free agency and grab someone, or we'll be drafting one early again this year. The team can't afford to sit on the QB situation until 2018. If bringing in competition to press Blake helps him to get things back on track, great. If it doesn't, there's someone who beat him out for the job. Either way, the team benefits.

I haven't see Allen play with the jags.

But I have watched extensive video fr his college games.

That guy looks the part...

Wouldn't be surprised if he wasn't kept around.

He ( in college) did everything Blake apparently can't...quick release, accurate, progression, and very few idiot bone head passes

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