I don't want to keep killing the qb. It is what it is. I'm just trying to figure out what we can do to still win some games. It's early in the season and other teams have won before with horrible quarterbacks. This tanking thing is getting old.

You (and most everybody else) need to get over your obsession with hating Bortles and look at what happened last week for what it really is.

They're trying to keep the ball out of Bortle's hands. I know that, you know that, everybody in the entire world knows that. It's hard to keep the ball out of your bad struggling QB's hands when you're constantly being faced with 1st and 20+ multiple drives in a row. 

You're forced to throw the ball in those situations and everybody knows it. You can't hide anything in that situation because there's only so many plays drawn up for those kind of situations.

Bortles isn't good, we all know this, it is what it is. The awful penalties are more concerning though because it's the same thing as last season. We were 2nd in the NFL in penalties last year and we're currently 2nd in the NFL in penalties this year.

You can hate Bortles and want him gone as much as the next guy, but he isn't out there committing hands to the face penalties and Offensive face masking penalties that are putting this Offense in bad situations.

I'm asking what the game plan should be considering all factors. He's our terrible qb and we have to deal with him for the season. I would like to know what kind of game plan other posters would like to see used. I'm actually kind of frustrated. I was one of the few believing in the guy to take the next step and turn that corner. I'm still hoping he can but after 50 games he is what he is. 

Like the post you quoted stated: I still think we can win some games. It would be nice to know what you think this team can do to win games. Not committing penalties is fantasy. They call phantom penalties. It's holding on almost every play. That's not realistic. What scheme wise or whatever would you like to see this team do. We are 1-1 and have an easy schedule. We can actually make the playoffs this season

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You (and most everybody else) need to get over your obsession with hating Bortles and look at what happened last week for what it really is.

They're trying to keep the ball out of Bortle's hands. I know that, you know that, everybody in the entire world knows that. It's hard to keep the ball out of your bad struggling QB's hands when you're constantly being faced with 1st and 20+ multiple drives in a row. 

You're forced to throw the ball in those situations and everybody knows it. You can't hide anything in that situation because there's only so many plays drawn up for those kind of situations.

Bortles isn't good, we all know this, it is what it is. The awful penalties are more concerning though because it's the same thing as last season. We were 2nd in the NFL in penalties last year and we're currently 2nd in the NFL in penalties this year.

You can hate Bortles and want him gone as much as the next guy, but he isn't out there committing hands to the face penalties and Offensive face masking penalties that are putting this Offense in bad situations.

I'm asking what the game plan should be considering all factors. He's our terrible qb and we have to deal with him for the season. I would like to know what kind of game plan other posters would like to see used. I'm actually kind of frustrated. I was one of the few believing in the guy to take the next step and turn that corner. I'm still hoping he can but after 50 games he is what he is. 

Like the post you quoted stated: I still think we can win some games. It would be nice to know what you think this team can do to win games. Not committing penalties is fantasy. They call phantom penalties. It's holding on almost every play. That's not realistic. What scheme wise or whatever would you like to see this team do. We are 1-1 and have an easy schedule. We can actually make the playoffs this season

The writing is on the wall for Bortles with this team. Everybody knows his time is up and he needs to go somewhere else and start fresh. This entire fan base questions him, the entire team is questioning him and the front office is questioning him. You can easily tell that he's second guessing every throw because "don't make a mistake" has been pounded into his head.

The game plan is obviously set in place, as far as wanting to be a run first team. You have to throw the ball in the NFL though. You can be ground and pound based, but eventually you have to throw the ball some. It's obvious this team just flat out doesn't want to. Obviously part of that is because of the QB situation on this team. But, there's way too many 1-2 WR sets which only helps stack the box against Fournette. I understand not wanting to let Bortles throw the ball 40 times, but at least give them the threat of possibly throwing it deep. Too many short routes are being ran and not enough 3-4+ WR sets.

I understand the loss of AR15 really hurts in that area, but you have to at least give some appearance of a threat to throw the ball. Whether they're going to throw it or not, they still have to cover those Receivers and it'll ease up with the amount of Defenders stacked in the box. They need to stop having Mercedes Lewis run routes. The guy can't catch a cold and I'm tired of watching him just throw up 1 hand to try and catch the ball, thinking that he's OBJ or something.

Some penalties will happen agreed. Yes you could call holding on every play, but holding penalties aren't what kept stalling drives. On those 5-6 straight drives of penalties, only one was a holding I believe. Two were illegal hands to the face penalties, both called on two different TEs. One face masking penalty called on Ivory that was just flat out stupid on his part. One was an Offensive Pass Interference penalty called on Hurns. You simply can't be doing that kind of stuff, over and over and over. A penalty here and there will happen. But, 5-6 straight drives is just flat out ridiculous.

Those are just the penalties during that stretch of the game. We had 10 total penalties for 100 yards. Not good, not good at all. We heard nothing but discipline and accountability all off season. They sure didn't show much of it last week.

At the end of the day, like said prior, the game plan is pretty much set in place. Run the ball, control the clock and play strong Defense. It just needs to be tweaked a little bit and that's what they're being paid the big $$ for.

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Should have kept Del Rio

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It was rough to watch. I have been to 9 games and I'm 0-9, yay

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Game plan? Drink lots and lots of hard liquor.

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"Before you criticize a man, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, if he gets angry, he's a mile away and barefoot."

Game plan? Drink lots and lots of hard liquor.

Now this is a real game plan lol

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Now we all are upset about what we have at qb but nothing can change that. So let's focus on what the offensive game plan should be going forward. 

Offensively we should place a major emphasis on the run game. We have a qb that cannot throw the ball or read a defense but let's place that to the side. The biggest issue is that he turns the ball over at an extr really high rate. If we focus on the run it place us in manageable down and distance. Using play action, role outs, options play  and  moving the pocket allows Bortles to use his mobility or throw to a dumpoff. At this point that is all we have in the passing game. 

2nd and 7 and 3rd and 6 gives you a new play book. Throwing on early downs just is not going to work for this team. Focus on the run period and take the ball out of Bortles had. That will drastically reduce the turnovers and keep us playing the field position games until the defense can get a big play or we wear down their defense.

Not even close...

First of all BB5 may have committed one turnover against the Tacks when he threw beind the receiver to which the ball was tipped if I'm not mistaken. Robinson got beat on the sack strip when BB5 fumbled(not his fault).  The second INT was also an tipped ball that landed in the opponent's grasp. Yes BB5 may have some issues as all QBs do but he's not the blame for this recent lost. The entire team is. 

NH3...

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"AZANE"

^ Penalties are a drive killer for just about any team. Penalties put teams with decent/good QBs in tough situations.
Penalties for the Jags with Bortles as QB? Lol, yeah,, almost impossible to overcome.

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Now we all are upset about what we have at qb but nothing can change that. So let's focus on what the offensive game plan should be going forward. 

Offensively we should place a major emphasis on the run game. We have a qb that cannot throw the ball or read a defense but let's place that to the side. The biggest issue is that he turns the ball over at an extr really high rate. If we focus on the run it place us in manageable down and distance. Using play action, role outs, options play  and  moving the pocket allows Bortles to use his mobility or throw to a dumpoff. At this point that is all we have in the passing game. 

2nd and 7 and 3rd and 6 gives you a new play book. Throwing on early downs just is not going to work for this team. Focus on the run period and take the ball out of Bortles had. That will drastically reduce the turnovers and keep us playing the field position games until the defense can get a big play or we wear down their defense.

Not even close...

First of all BB5 may have committed one turnover against the Tacks when he threw beind the receiver to which the ball was tipped if I'm not mistaken. Robinson got beat on the sack strip when BB5 fumbled(not his fault).  The second INT was also an tipped ball that landed in the opponent's grasp. Yes BB5 may have some issues as all QBs do but he's not the blame for this recent lost. The entire team is. 

NH3...

After 50 games the guy has almost 70 turnovers. That's almost 1.5 turnovers a game. He had 34 attempts Sunday with 2 sacks so 36 drop backs. He was apart of 3 turnovers. That's 1 turnover every 12 dropbacks. This is also not the the first time this has happened. He only played about 10 games in which has never had a turnover so that's means he typically has multi turnover games. I just never seen any qb who is any good have stats like this. Then on top of all of that he I saw a career 56% passer. He just not very good I think we can all agree on that. 

The point I'm make make is that when he has the ball in his hands most likely something terrible will likely happen. If team can mitigate his 1.5 turnover ratio most games we can win

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Blake is at his best in play action and no huddle situations. We need to play to these strengths of his.

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Any team that is one dimensional is going to be at a tremendous disadvantage

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Blake is at his best in play action and no huddle situations. We need to play to these strengths of his.

It only seems that way.  When do they go to no huddle?  Oh yeah when the game is out of reach and the other team has backed off on their coverage.  Everything he does is a chore.  Throwing the ball looks like effort.  Everything is magnified because we haven't had any progress as a team but it starts with him.  If he really excelled at this style you would see it used or mixed in.  The reality is he isn't good at anything.

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And really we just wanted to believe we found our guy so very much that we ignored the obvious with his "good" year. If the front office hadn't botched the coaching hires who know where we would be right now.

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Birth of the Franchise - November 30, 1993
Death of the Franchise - November 29, 2011

Fans deserve better. Thanks for all the good times too many are in the past.

Fournette is the gameplan..

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