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(01-01-2020, 12:05 AM)TrivialPursuit Wrote:(12-31-2019, 10:35 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: That's not true. I was 20 when I went in and there were a few other girls in my boot camp unit who were 20-21. Dude, most people don't know what they want to do with their lives until they're in their 30s. The military is not the worst option for most. It teaches discipline and accountability, how to cope in stressful situations, the importance of fitness, camaraderie, how to adapt to people, places and things at any given time, etc. And that's all just in boot camp. I've always felt the youth of this country would benefit from a 2 year enlistment minimum (not counting boot camp and the training for the actual job), straight out of high school. I was never a "bad kid" or anything but I needed direction and confidence moving into adulthood and I feel it was a great experience for me, plus I'd always wanted to serve. Many kids benefit from playing sports in high school and already have direction and confidence but not everyone has those opportunities. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
(01-01-2020, 01:17 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote:(01-01-2020, 12:05 AM)TrivialPursuit Wrote: And that's about 30% of recruits. Where did I say that was a negative? I'm not saying it's a bad option, just pointing out why the government will never raise the enlistment age to 21.
(12-30-2019, 08:56 PM)EricC85 Wrote: I only have issues with it on either federal level, where Does the fed get constitutional authority to dictate commerce restrictions in all states? How do you feel about Dick's Sporting Goods refusing to sell rifles to 20 year olds? Is that a civil rights violation or the property right of the store owner to refuse the transaction? “An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato
(01-04-2020, 11:01 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote:(12-30-2019, 08:56 PM)EricC85 Wrote: I only have issues with it on either federal level, where Does the fed get constitutional authority to dictate commerce restrictions in all states? Property rights of the owner I can’t force a private company to sell products they choose not to sell. That said there’s an argument that there is precedent for the state to force commerce in private enterprise under the justification of civil rights, I don’t agree with it but I acknowledged the argument.
(01-04-2020, 11:09 AM)EricC85 Wrote:(01-04-2020, 11:01 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: How do you feel about Dick's Sporting Goods refusing to sell rifles to 20 year olds? Is that a civil rights violation or the property right of the store owner to refuse the transaction? Oh, they'll sell me the product. It's your ilk they won't do business with. “An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato
We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! (01-04-2020, 11:32 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote:(01-04-2020, 11:09 AM)EricC85 Wrote: Property rights of the owner I can’t force a private company to sell products they choose not to sell. I know where your going with it and I disagree with it. As a libertarian I argue state enforcement of commerce in the private sector is out of bounds. Yes that means if the hillbilly in Kentucky what’s to only serve whites at his dinner or the barber shop in queens only want to cut black peoples hair or the Christian in Denver doesn’t want to bake a gay themed cake I support the rights of those business owners to choose their own business model. All anti discrimination laws should only be enforced in the public sector, schools, courts, government programs, anything tax payers founded absolutely 100%. That said under our current law of someone wants to challenge [BLEEP] policy i don’t think it will hold up in court. It’s age discrimination and that was established in the civil rights act. Doesn’t mean I agree with it
(01-04-2020, 01:05 PM)EricC85 Wrote:(01-04-2020, 11:32 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: Oh, they'll sell me the product. It's your ilk they won't do business with. Age discrimination only applies to people over 40. And yes, that means the law to prevent age discrimination discriminates based on age. "Why should I give information to you when all you want to do is find something wrong with it?"
(01-04-2020, 01:05 PM)EricC85 Wrote:(01-04-2020, 11:32 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: Oh, they'll sell me the product. It's your ilk they won't do business with. Sounds ike you were never restricted to the Coloreds Only water fountain. “An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato
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