OK - back to some PFF grades of note.

Now, I'm not trying to harp on how bad our OL played in week one, but these grades from the colts DL and LBs do paint a bit of a picture!  (Buckner and Franklin probably had legit good games regardless of our OL)

Heh.  Last year when PFF rated the line the top third in the league, you went to ESPN like a true devotee because they ranked the Jags second last (from memory on those rankings).  Now the PFF says they suck, you're back on the PFF bandwagon.  Let me guess, in the local community comedy theatre, you insist on playing the John Cleese character.  It's a natural fit.  I do admit, you are entertaining.

https://youtu.be/uLlv_aZjHXc?si=mx-0jjOZ7KUIs-xX

LOL

This guy 

Still haven't figured out the difference between grades and win rates have you? 

It's not two different websites with different opinions - it's two completely different things. 
Thought I explained this to you. Catch up.

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PFF should be looked at as a hypothesis. It is a n educated guess. I prefer myself to use a combination of things to determine my opinion on how the team is doing. The most important tool I use to determine how the line is doing are my eyeballs. I determine the Indy defense spanked the Jaguars offensive line by just watching the game.

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Heh.  Last year when PFF rated the line the top third in the league, you went to ESPN like a true devotee because they ranked the Jags second last (from memory on those rankings).  Now the PFF says they suck, you're back on the PFF bandwagon.  Let me guess, in the local community comedy theatre, you insist on playing the John Cleese character.  It's a natural fit.  I do admit, you are entertaining.

https://youtu.be/uLlv_aZjHXc?si=mx-0jjOZ7KUIs-xX

LOL

This guy 

Still haven't figured out the difference between grades and win rates have you? 

It's not two different websites with different opinions - it's two completely different things. 
Thought I explained this to you. Catch up.

LOL

You have an amazing level of obtuseness.  I am impressed.  Whatever thing supports you in the exact moment, abandoning whatever thing doesn't, returning to it when it does.  You have obviously convinced yourself that this is some exceptional level of whit and argument, but that's hardly a demanding standard now, is it?

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Baalke talked about Fatukasi's prowess vs the run when we signed him  - not sure why that seems to touch a nerve with you. It's OK for the team to value getting him lots of NT snaps, you know.  As much as you want to pretend you have every nuance of the DL figured out - you clearly don't see this part clearly. 

Hamilton had good pass rush win rates last year and it helped him get re-signed - that's great - but he still didn't get home much, and he indeed was a solid rotational player for the Jags. He played in 61% of the defensive snaps or fewer in FOURTEEN games last year. Hamilton played less than 50% of the snaps in eight of those games. Call him the starter all you want, and he technically was on paper  - but he also played 3-4 End - and he also sat a lot while Fatukasi played the nose. They shared the position on the weeks when Fatukasi was healthy.

 What you read on a depth chart doesn't mean much about snap numbers. You need to pay attention to how often it has been Fatukasi gumming up the middle in run sets. 

It sucks this was supposed to be a bit of a breakout year for Hamilton and he got himself hurt off the field somehow. I hope he's back before the bye week, but it really doesn't look good.

Not a nerve for me, you were just wrong on it again.  We absolutely signed him for his run defense.  But it wasn't for him to just play NT.  I'm not looking at a depth chart.  I'm looking at who starts at NT when both are healthy and that's Hamilton.  We gave Hamilton the big contract in our offseason to be our NT or start at NT, he will start next to Hamilton.  Peters also play NT for us last year and did a pretty good job.  He comes out in passing situations, I thought you knew this lol. Big boys gets tired and is not going to be able to play the % of snaps as the ends and you want him resting in passing situations, hes 335 lbs lol.  I'd bet the house on if you asked Doug if Hamilton is a rotational player he would tell you no he's our starting NT  lol.   It's good Fatukasi is looking healthy and can hold the middle down in base packages until Hamilton gets back

Foley was lined up at NT more than Hamilton was during camp when both were healthy. They will definitely both play that position, because they can, but don't be surprised if Foley gets more snaps there when Hamilton comes back. Hamilton is still definitely a starter if/when he comes back, but don't be surprised if he's lined up on a Guard more often than not, rather than the Center at Nose.

This is from Doug himself during training camp about Foley and it was well before the Hamilton injury..

“He’s going to be somebody that can hopefully dominate the middle or interior of that offensive line,” Pederson said. “He’s our guy in the middle, and you want him to be able to push the pocket and generate some power there. Especially if he’s working as a nose and working one-on-one with centers and things like that. That’s the expectation. It goes back to just keeping players in the right spots and making sure they can be the best there. That’s what he’s done, and just taking his game one more notch up. His expectations are high and so are ours and he’s on the right track.”

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Just because we address RG does not mean we have to cut Scherff. The tugboat was a feature story in the PS because he got a cool nickname and held his own, but for all we know against starting caliber players he could be the next Bartch. I want us to be ready when Scherff either goes down with another injury or begins to show his age. I don't want to stand pat and be left scrambling for replacements when (relatively) unexpected events arise.

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You word gooder than me. Well said.

Nothing but splendiferous expoundifications upon your most properly pontificated pondering, my good sir.

HALP I sprained my thinkmeat

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Baalke talked about Fatukasi's prowess vs the run when we signed him  - not sure why that seems to touch a nerve with you. It's OK for the team to value getting him lots of NT snaps, you know.  As much as you want to pretend you have every nuance of the DL figured out - you clearly don't see this part clearly. 

Hamilton had good pass rush win rates last year and it helped him get re-signed - that's great - but he still didn't get home much, and he indeed was a solid rotational player for the Jags. He played in 61% of the defensive snaps or fewer in FOURTEEN games last year. Hamilton played less than 50% of the snaps in eight of those games. Call him the starter all you want, and he technically was on paper  - but he also played 3-4 End - and he also sat a lot while Fatukasi played the nose. They shared the position on the weeks when Fatukasi was healthy.

 What you read on a depth chart doesn't mean much about snap numbers. You need to pay attention to how often it has been Fatukasi gumming up the middle in run sets. 

It sucks this was supposed to be a bit of a breakout year for Hamilton and he got himself hurt off the field somehow. I hope he's back before the bye week, but it really doesn't look good.

Not a nerve for me, you were just wrong on it again.  We absolutely signed him for his run defense.  But it wasn't for him to just play NT.  I'm not looking at a depth chart.  I'm looking at who starts at NT when both are healthy and that's Hamilton.  We gave Hamilton the big contract in our offseason to be our NT or start at NT, he will start next to Hamilton.  Peters also play NT for us last year and did a pretty good job.  He comes out in passing situations, I thought you knew this lol. Big boys gets tired and is not going to be able to play the % of snaps as the ends and you want him resting in passing situations, hes 335 lbs lol.  I'd bet the house on if you asked Doug if Hamilton is a rotational player he would tell you no he's our starting NT  lol.   It's good Fatukasi is looking healthy and can hold the middle down in base packages until Hamilton gets back

TL;DR - just kiss already. This is the worst romcom evar.

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PFF should be looked at as a hypothesis.  It is a n educated guess. I prefer myself to use a combination of things to determine my opinion on how the team is doing. The most important tool I use to determine how the line is doing are my eyeballs. I determine the Indy defense spanked the Jaguars offensive line by just watching the game.

I NEED NUMBERS MAN GIVE ME NUMBERS

/twitches in gutter

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Not a nerve for me, you were just wrong on it again.  We absolutely signed him for his run defense.  But it wasn't for him to just play NT.  I'm not looking at a depth chart.  I'm looking at who starts at NT when both are healthy and that's Hamilton.  We gave Hamilton the big contract in our offseason to be our NT or start at NT, he will start next to Hamilton.  Peters also play NT for us last year and did a pretty good job.  He comes out in passing situations, I thought you knew this lol. Big boys gets tired and is not going to be able to play the % of snaps as the ends and you want him resting in passing situations, hes 335 lbs lol.  I'd bet the house on if you asked Doug if Hamilton is a rotational player he would tell you no he's our starting NT  lol.   It's good Fatukasi is looking healthy and can hold the middle down in base packages until Hamilton gets back

Foley was lined up at NT more than Hamilton was during camp when both were healthy. They will definitely both play that position, because they can, but don't be surprised if Foley gets more snaps there when Hamilton comes back. Hamilton is still definitely a starter if/when he comes back, but don't be surprised if he's lined up on a Guard more often than not, rather than the Center at Nose.

This is from Doug himself during training camp about Foley and it was well before the Hamilton injury..

“He’s going to be somebody that can hopefully dominate the middle or interior of that offensive line,” Pederson said. “He’s our guy in the middle, and you want him to be able to push the pocket and generate some power there. Especially if he’s working as a nose and working one-on-one with centers and things like that. That’s the expectation. It goes back to just keeping players in the right spots and making sure they can be the best there. That’s what he’s done, and just taking his game one more notch up. His expectations are high and so are ours and he’s on the right track.”

You have the snap count each got at NT in camp?  I think you are talking out your [BLEEP] now.  Let's see the snap count? Of course Hamilton will be a starter when he gets back and I like what Pederson said, hopefully he can dominate.  What do you expect him to say?  He needs to play better than last year? He wasnt good last year yet they had him starting at 3-4 end, he's a better NT imo than over the guard.

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Not a nerve for me, you were just wrong on it again.  We absolutely signed him for his run defense.  But it wasn't for him to just play NT.  I'm not looking at a depth chart.  I'm looking at who starts at NT when both are healthy and that's Hamilton.  We gave Hamilton the big contract in our offseason to be our NT or start at NT, he will start next to Hamilton.  Peters also play NT for us last year and did a pretty good job.  He comes out in passing situations, I thought you knew this lol. Big boys gets tired and is not going to be able to play the % of snaps as the ends and you want him resting in passing situations, hes 335 lbs lol.  I'd bet the house on if you asked Doug if Hamilton is a rotational player he would tell you no he's our starting NT  lol.   It's good Fatukasi is looking healthy and can hold the middle down in base packages until Hamilton gets back

TL;DR - just kiss already. This is the worst romcom evar.

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PFF should be looked at as a hypothesis.  It is a n educated guess. I prefer myself to use a combination of things to determine my opinion on how the team is doing. The most important tool I use to determine how the line is doing are my eyeballs. I determine the Indy defense spanked the Jaguars offensive line by just watching the game.

I NEED NUMBERS MAN GIVE ME NUMBERS

/twitches in gutter

Seriously.  I stopped reading their back and forth on this argument after the first couple of messages.  No one cares who wins/won. It's ok to be right (in your mind) and at the same time walk away from the keyboard giving the other person the last word. Or just passionately kiss, which ever you prefer. Anything but the current course.

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