What in the name of....?

 

Sorry Rob but this has nothing to do with Teblow, plug or anything. 

 

If Bortles' worst day consists of 2 TDs and 1 INT (with a win, mind you), the QB is the LEAST of our worries.

 

Never mind the fact that he's ONLY in his second year.

 

Sure, he has made bad mistakes but he has also made incredible plays on a regular basis - most of which you don't really cite (like extending plays with his legs and throwing on the run). 

 

Don't get me wrong, he needs to get better and shore up the couple mistakes that he makes but let me remind you again, he is in his second year.

 

I will take him and our young offense any day. 

If you took that phrase previously quoted and added a Tebow/Vince Young but hes a  'winner' reference, it would fit. 2/1 with less than 50% completion and a win sounds like a Tebow special to me. Can win long term like that.

 

I agree the future is looking good. But hes got to play better than he has this year. He needs to get that completion percentage up to at least 60% if we are gonna be real contenders. I love Bortles, he is so much better than anything we have had the last few years. But he needs more work. We shouldn't have needed so much luck to win a game in which we got 4 TO and the other team only got 1. Thats my point.

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Peyton must store oxygen in that forehead of his. No way I'd still be alive after all that choking.

 

He is the best QB the Jags have ever had period. 

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If you took that phrase previously quoted and added a Tebow/Vince Young but hes a  'winner' reference, it would fit. 2/1 with less than 50% completion and a win sounds like a Tebow special to me. Can win long term like that.

 

I agree the future is looking good. But hes got to play better than he has this year. He needs to get that completion percentage up to at least 60% if we are gonna be real contenders. I love Bortles, he is so much better than anything we have had the last few years. But he needs more work. We shouldn't have needed so much luck to win a game in which we got 4 TO and the other team only got 1. Thats my point.

Again, he is only in his second year and technically, he has not played in two full seasons... 

 

I will GLADLY take a second year QB who has thrown for 2,381 yards, 19 TDs, 11 INTs, and has a rating of 81.0 through week 10.

 

Yes, he needs to clean up some mistakes, but he does a lot more for our team than statistics can show too...

 

And for the Tebow thing, just drop it. There is ZERO comparison - even with the "winner" reference - with Bortles and Tebow just by watching them play. 

 

Night and day. I'm done talking about some Good Morning America anchor.

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Tebow sucks? but other then the media and passing% you have no actual facts he sucks!

 

1. Winning record in the Nfl and a playoff win in his rookie game of starts.

2. Highest Qbr in the last 5 minutes of a game, when they actually unleash him.

3. When time goes by and they look back on football history, they will ask how does a guy who did all this in his rookie starts never get to play again in the NFL, when others played for years and sucked!

 

 

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Glad you said enlighten me. Here goes.

 

1. You recall he threw for 50% in his first year. They actually let him throw. You can watch the videos but even the annoucers said he was making NFL throws. I can provide the links if need be.

2. Year 2 rolls around and somehow he gets demoted to "4th string" when the new coach came in. 

3. the 4-19 amazing broncos defense, goes 1-4 during a lockout season, so they bring in Tebow during the charger game in a normal offense and he looked pretty good and almost brought them back.

4. He is named starter, but before he starts they dump the only two receivers he worked with. And then for whatever reason switched to this run run, possible pass on 3rd down offense and wouldn't let him throw more then 10 passes a game. Lock out season remember and new head coach and offensive coordinator. 

5. So only passing that many times, heck ya it looks bad. Can't even get warmed up.

6. He goes on to win the division and thumps the #1 defense steelers in a playoff game, while setting passing records in the playoffs which no other HOF QB holds.

7. Also to note Elway was in stanford shopping Luck. But when Tebow went on this winning streak it took them out of the hunt for Luck. So he brings in PM.

8. Tebow gets traded away to the Jets, so thats 3 different coaches in 3 years. If you think that is a fair shake then your all liars.

7. He gets picked up by the Patriots to see if he can beat out Mallet for the backup spot. So that now makes 4 different coaches and offensives he has to learn and new receivers. 

8. If you even get looked at by the Patriots you still better then half the league imho.

Some quick Tebow vs. Vick stats from their respective 2011 regular seasons:

W/L - Tebow (7-4) vick (7-6)

Playoff wins - Tebow 1 Vick 0

Completion % - Tebow 46.5 % Vick 59.8%

Passing attempts: Tebow 271 Vick 423

% of total passes thrown that were directed towards a WR - Tebow 72% Vick 58%

I use this last stat because it is a very telling one when determining overall completion percentage. Most QB's pad their completions by throwing to their RB's and TE's - as longer throws result in lower odds of completion. Tebow, in 2011, only attempted 30 passes to his TE's and 45 to his RB's. Vick in contrast attempted 95 to the TE and 59 to the RB's. Tebow's completion percentage to those two positions was 57% to 62% for Vick. I will assert that had he had the talent at those key positions he would have had a much higher completion percentage than his paltry 46.5%. Tebow also rushed for 660 yards compared to Vick's 589 yards and the TD's were nearly identical - 18 for Tebow (12pass/6rush) to 19 for Vick (18pass/1rush) - except Tebow played in two less games. While this is just one sample year - it is the only one Tebow has been afford the chance to play. In closing, I believe that Tim Tebow's worth based on statistics alone is worth a shot. His worth based on talent and intangibles makes it a no-brainer decision for the Jags.
 

 

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Smh you should look at they win loss record!!! TEBOW

 

Jags need Tim Tebow! Despite what the media says he has proven over and over to be a winner. 

 

 

I'll take his 2 TDs and 1 INT with the win EVERY time.

 

Your quote fits right in with the others doesn't it? Tell me it doesn't sound simular. Repent of your Tebowism and let the curse be lifted!

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Peyton must store oxygen in that forehead of his. No way I'd still be alive after all that choking.

 

Now stick your quote right in with the others and tell me it doesn't sound simular. Repent of your Tebowism and let the curse be lifted!

I don't know why you are so hell-bent with your love for Tebow but I did not, nor do not, think he was ever a viable QB candidate. 

 

If you can't tell that there is a difference between #15 and Bortles, there might not be any hope for you as a football fan.

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What in the name of....?

 

Sorry Rob but this has nothing to do with Teblow, plug or anything. 

 

If Bortles' worst day
consists of 2 TDs and 1 INT (with a win, mind you), the QB is the LEAST of our worries.

 

Never mind the fact that he's ONLY in his second year.

 

Sure, he has made bad mistakes but he has also made incredible plays on a regular basis - most of which you don't really cite (like extending plays with his legs and throwing on the run). 

 

Don't get me wrong, he needs to get better and shore up the couple mistakes that he makes but let me remind you again, he is in his second year.

 

I will take him and our young offense any day. 

Rob, reading comprehension may not be a strong suit of yours so I will show you the difference between Bortles and Teblow. 

 

Bortles' statistical worst day > Tebow's best statistical game.

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He is the best QB the Jags have ever had period. 

 

Give him another year of this performance and I totally agree with you.. but in his 2nd year... you could still argue for Mark Brunnelll but Blake's potential surely is higher than that of Mark's career....

 

The Allen Brothers (Hurns & Robinson) really help out now if only he could get a healthy Lee & timing with Thomas or more importantly a good Oline!

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I don't know why you are so hell-bent with your love for Tebow but I did not, nor do not, think he was ever a viable QB candidate. 

 

If you can't tell that there is a difference between #15 and Bortles, there might not be any hope for you as a football fan.

 

Lol, looking at the quote in context it appears that it is you who loves Tebow. But seriously I am kidding around. I would hate to think you are actually getting upset at what is, pretty much a hilarious coincidence to me. You don't have to admit it out loud, I think you know that quote fits in tho. Much love to you brother.

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Peyton must store oxygen in that forehead of his. No way I'd still be alive after all that choking.

 

Give him another year of this performance and I totally agree with you.. but in his 2nd year... you could still argue for Mark Brunnelll but Blake's potential surely is higher than that of Mark's career....

 

The Allen Brothers (Hurns & Robinson) really help out now if only he could get a healthy Lee & timing with Thomas or more importantly a good Oline!

I agree with this. Hopefully we will be feeling this way next year too about him.

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Peyton must store oxygen in that forehead of his. No way I'd still be alive after all that choking.

 

Lol, looking at the quote in context it appears that it is you who loves Tebow. But seriously I am kidding around. I would hate to think you are actually getting upset at what is, pretty much a hilarious coincidence to me. You don't have to admit it out loud, I think you know that quote fits in tho. Much love to you brother.

I am as anti-Tebow as possible as a football player. 

 

I despise when people try to put words into my mouth and I will make it clear what my position is - and you can't kid around with he who should not be named (though I have) around these parts for a plethora of football and non-football related reasons. 

 

You just took something I said and then assumed I fit some bogus position that you conjured up from a few years ago. 

 

Like I have mentioned for the past few weeks now. I'd rather win ugly than to lose pretty.

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I despise when people try to put words into my mouth and I will make it clear what my position is - and you can't kid around with he who should not be named (though I have) around these parts for a plethora of football and non-football related reasons. 

If you can't joke about Tebow then who can you kid about?


 

You just took something I said and then assumed I fit some bogus position that you conjured up from a few years ago. 

That isn't my angle actually. My whole point is that the post looks similar to Tebow arguments, I was NOT saying that you actually supported Tebow (well until that last one)
, just that similar arguments were made for him and that they were bad arguments. It was an observation on the content of the comment rather than the context (i.e. the comment could be easily taken out of context).

 

Like I have mentioned for the past few weeks now. I'd rather win ugly than to lose pretty.

As would everyone here.

I clarified a few points so you see what I was actually trying to get across.

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http://youtu.be/XQRFkn0Ly3A Media on the Brain Link!
 

Peyton must store oxygen in that forehead of his. No way I'd still be alive after all that choking.