Wait, wait, wait...

 

you mean this was all just a ruse to get us to plead for government-run universal healthcare financing?

 

YOU DON'T SAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

:woot: :woot: :woot: :woot: :woot: :woot: :woot: :woot: :woot: :woot:

 

We have a great example of Federal Government run universal healthcare in the US. It's called the Veterans Administration.

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"Why should I give information to you when all you want to do is find something wrong with it?"

We have a great example of Federal Government run universal healthcare in the US. It's called the Veterans Administration.

You know it's only a marketplace, right? The Feds aren't actually running the hospitals.

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You know it's only a marketplace, right? The Feds aren't actually running the hospitals.

Doubt it

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We have a great example of Federal Government run universal healthcare in the US. It's called the Veterans Administration.

 

Just think about it.  The Federal Government can't even do right with the VA, and people want this example to be "the norm" as part of "single payer".

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There are 10 kinds of people in this world.  Those who understand binary and those who don't.

You know it's only a marketplace, right? The Feds aren't actually running the hospitals.

 

I'm sure the Feds are at least paying for the hospitals to be built, because there was a lot of argument in congress that a VA hospital in central Florida wasn't worth the cost. If they are using Federal contractors to run the hospitals rather than Federal employees, then that's a distinction without a difference.

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"Why should I give information to you when all you want to do is find something wrong with it?"

I'm sure the Feds are at least paying for the hospitals to be built, because there was a lot of argument in congress that a VA hospital in central Florida wasn't worth the cost. If they are using Federal contractors to run the hospitals rather than Federal employees, then that's a distinction without a difference.

So you are completely clueless on the subject. Color me surprised.

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So you are completely clueless on the subject. Color me surprised.

 

Here's Krugman, one of your leftists, on the VA, using it as an example of how we should be doing healthcare in the US.


 

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/14/opinio....html?_r=0

 

 

 

 

And yes, this is “socialized medicine” — although some private systems, like Kaiser Permanente, share many of the V.H.A.’s virtues. But it works — and suggests what it will take to solve the troubles of U.S. health care more broadly.

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"Why should I give information to you when all you want to do is find something wrong with it?"

Here's Krugman, one of your leftists, on the VA, using it as an example of how we should be doing healthcare in the US.


<a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/14/opinion/krugman-vouchers-for-veterans-and-other-bad-ideas.html?_r=0'>http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/14/opinion/krugman-vouchers-for-veterans-and-other-bad-ideas.html?_r=0</a>

Cool story bro

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So you are completely clueless on the subject. Color me surprised.

Why such animosity?

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You know it's only a marketplace, right? The Feds aren't actually running the hospitals.

True in a sense but they are basically financing health care when they give premium subsidies

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It seems like your data has you convinced that the apocalypse is coming. My data leaves me feeling decidedly less hemorrhoidal about the whole thing. I don't know that there's anywhere to go from here, so I'll step out of the argument now and reply to this thread in ten years to point and laugh at you when universal healthcare is a stunning success.

<a class="bbc_url" href='http://nyti.ms/1dD5uex'>http://nyti.ms/1dD5uex</a>


Keep dreaming about that stunning success. The collapse is coming.

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Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

<a class="bbc_url" href='http://nyti.ms/1dD5uex'>http://nyti.ms/1dD5uex</a>


Keep dreaming about that stunning success. The collapse is coming.

Whatever you say, hoss.

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<a class="bbc_url" href='http://nyti.ms/1dD5uex'>http://nyti.ms/1dD5uex</a>


Keep dreaming about that stunning success. The collapse is coming.

 

I was going to post a link to this exact story when I saw it this morning.  Imagine that, health insurance premiums going up as a result of Obamacare.  Let's see how long it takes for someone to blame it on insurance companies and their "obscene profits".

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There are 10 kinds of people in this world.  Those who understand binary and those who don't.