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***jagibelieve*** · 08-07-2017, 03:25 PM

(08-07-2017, 03:21 PM)Kane Wrote:
(08-05-2017, 08:40 AM)copycat Wrote: He had a great year, a very nice 3 year run, got ran off from not one but two teams in successive years. He was average in Ariz for 3 years and finished his last year strong. A decent career not a great one, and having an exceptional 3 year run is not HoF worthy IMO.

You're serious?
--his total career passing yards and touchdowns compare favorably with other Hall of Fame quarterbacks, like Troy Aikman and Jim Kelly.
--Led two teams to Superbowls (played 3 total), including the Cardinals first ever.
--In 13 career playoff games, Warner ranks first all-time in completion percentage (66.5%), first in yards per attempt (8.55), and second in passer rating (102.8)
--He was 5-4 with the G-Men when they decided to give the reigns to rookie Eli, while it isn't fact I would venture to say Warner possibly could have led them to a better finish than lil Eli's 1-6 finish.
--He started the 2000 season where he had left off in his record-setting 1999 season, racking up 300 or more passing yards in each of his first six games (tying Steve Young's record) and posting 19 touchdown passes in that stretch.
--Warner passed the 20,000-yard passing milestone in his 76th game, the second-quickest of any player in NFL history (Warner accomplished the feat in one game more than it took record-holder Dan Marino
Warner's injuries kinda ended his Rams career.

I mean.... he had like a couple bad seasons... but I don't see how you could say he isn't HOF worthy...
His 'down' years in AZ... they weren't a good team. The roster around him got better and they stopped trying to force Leinart to be good.

Agreed. What Kurt Warner accomplished and the story behind it is nothing short of amazing.

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copycat · 08-08-2017, 06:48 PM

(08-07-2017, 03:25 PM)jagibelieve Wrote:
(08-07-2017, 03:21 PM)Kane Wrote: You're serious?
--his total career passing yards and touchdowns compare favorably with other Hall of Fame quarterbacks, like Troy Aikman and Jim Kelly.
--Led two teams to Superbowls (played 3 total), including the Cardinals first ever.
--In 13 career playoff games, Warner ranks first all-time in completion percentage (66.5%), first in yards per attempt (8.55), and second in passer rating (102.8)
--He was 5-4 with the G-Men when they decided to give the reigns to rookie Eli, while it isn't fact I would venture to say Warner possibly could have led them to a better finish than lil Eli's 1-6 finish.
--He started the 2000 season where he had left off in his record-setting 1999 season, racking up 300 or more passing yards in each of his first six games (tying Steve Young's record) and posting 19 touchdown passes in that stretch.
--Warner passed the 20,000-yard passing milestone in his 76th game, the second-quickest of any player in NFL history (Warner accomplished the feat in one game more than it took record-holder Dan Marino
Warner's injuries kinda ended his Rams career.

I mean.... he had like a couple bad seasons... but I don't see how you could say he isn't HOF worthy...
His 'down' years in AZ... they weren't a good team. The roster around him got better and they stopped trying to force Leinart to be good.

Agreed. What Kurt Warner accomplished and the story behind it is nothing short of amazing.

His back story is HoF worthy. How long before the movie comes out?

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Kane · 08-09-2017, 12:16 PM

(08-08-2017, 06:48 PM)copycat Wrote:
(08-07-2017, 03:25 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: Agreed. What Kurt Warner accomplished and the story behind it is nothing short of amazing.
His back story is HoF worthy. How long before the movie comes out?

So all the stuff I listed... sweep sweep?

copycat · 08-09-2017, 01:22 PM

(08-09-2017, 12:16 PM)Kane Wrote:
(08-08-2017, 06:48 PM)copycat Wrote: His back story is HoF worthy. How long before the movie comes out?

So all the stuff I listed... sweep sweep?

I am not denying had some spectacular seasons, he also had some bad ones. My personal opinion is I would not put him in the HoF due to up and down seasons. Consider that he was let go by a team he took to two Super Bowls winning one of them. Yes he bounced back Kudos to him. That is not taking anything away from him. There are a lot of fantastic players that are not in the HoF.

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Kane · 08-09-2017, 01:59 PM

(08-09-2017, 01:22 PM)copycat Wrote:
(08-09-2017, 12:16 PM)Kane Wrote: So all the stuff I listed... sweep sweep?

I am not denying had some spectacular seasons, he also had some bad ones. My personal opinion is I would not put him in the HoF due to up and down seasons. Consider that he was let go by a team he took to two Super Bowls winning one of them. Yes he bounced back Kudos to him. That is not taking anything away from him. There are a lot of fantastic players that are not in the HoF.

I'm flabbergasted.
Like I said... his "bad" years with the Rams were due to a broken hand/finger issue that lingered. Kinda important for a QB.
His one season with the G-Men he was their stop gap for Eli, but I think he could have made noise if given the opportunity but we'll never know. Statistically, he wasn't terrible in NY.
Then he went to AZ and after some waffling by coaches they finally gave Warner control and he had great seasons with them.

I'm not saying he's the best QB ever.. but well deserving to be in the HoF
It wasn't like he was a first ballot guy or nothin.... they made him wait for Favre and some others.

I suppose you're entitled to your opinion as I am mine...
even if not this year, I don't see how you leave this guy out of the HoF