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Impressions From the Patriots Game
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(08-10-2017, 11:33 PM)Bullseye Wrote:(08-10-2017, 11:22 PM)The_Franchise_QB Wrote: Since when was the comedian Seth Meyers the K? .D'oh! Combined Seth Marler with Jason Myers. To be fair, that kicker last night looked like a mix between Marler and Myers. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
The problem I have is 0/3 on 3rd down conversions from the starting offense... Whatever our 2nd and 3rd teamers did was against their 2nd and 3rd stringers.
Bortles proved again, "HE'S NOT THE GUY". His wobbling passes aren't like Manning's wobbly passes that stuck to his receivers hand like pine sap. Some guys have it, and some guys don't. Fournette Looks solid. Ngakoue is "THE GUY" on defense. We still have kicking issues. We'll all be cursing our kicker when he blows a PAT in a close one, but drills a meaningless 60 yarder in a game that we're down 30. Looks like we have speed at WR, but we all know who has to throw it to them... so yeah. Hate to say it Bortles homers... Henne looks like a guy that's ready to play.
I ain't no monkey... I'm an ape.
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Here are some impressions I have:
We are loaded at RB and WR. We have some difficult decisions to make, especially at WR, where a couple of starters are in contract years. We're already paying Hearns $10 million per year, and we cannot afford to pay both Robinson and Lee that kind of money. Everyone wanted to cut Henne. Wonder what they think now. I think a lot of what we saw was the result of having so many padded practices in training camp. Guys looked like they were hitting really well out there. Usually preseason starts out kind of tentative, a lot of softness, but this year, it seems like the guys are already hitting pretty hard, especially the offensive line. I thought Myles Jack struggled and looked lost at times. Poz was so underrated. I wonder if we have a contingency plan to put Poz back at MLB is Myles Jack can't pick it up a little faster. Another thing I noticed was that Myles Jack is only 21 years old. Wow. And oh, yeah, Sheldon Day. Wow. You never know who's going to become a Hall of Famer. Overall, I am very encouraged. Of course, Brady didn't play, and I don't recall Gronk playing at all, but on our side, no starting CBs, and no Calais Campbell.
My thoughts on the game: why was Rashad Green in with the starters, ever? Bortles had two incompletions last night, one on Rashad Greene's drop, the other on a throw away, Greene shouldn't be in the game with the first teamers.
Also what's with Marrone trying to be cute starting Ivory? If Fournette is in the game on that first run does it go to the house? If he's really the elite talent he's supposed to be then it should. The offensive play calling was okay, we'll see how it holds up when we're getting game planned and facing a starting defense.
(08-11-2017, 06:03 AM)David4499 Wrote: The problem I have is 0/3 on 3rd down conversions from the starting offense... Whatever our 2nd and 3rd teamers did was against their 2nd and 3rd stringers. I hate to say this but your football IQ is dumber than Fred Flintstone in Bedrock lol. ![]() We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
(08-11-2017, 06:03 AM)David4499 Wrote: The problem I have is 0/3 on 3rd down conversions from the starting offense... Whatever our 2nd and 3rd teamers did was against their 2nd and 3rd stringers. I.... I'm just..... What? How can you take anything from Bortles performance last night? 4 of his passes we're tight spirals and very accurate. He had one throw away under pressure. Not sure what more we wanted from him. He was accurate and made good decisions in his limited time.
IT WAS ALWAYS THE JAGS
(08-11-2017, 06:49 AM)mvannostran Wrote:(08-11-2017, 06:03 AM)David4499 Wrote: The problem I have is 0/3 on 3rd down conversions from the starting offense... Whatever our 2nd and 3rd teamers did was against their 2nd and 3rd stringers. He did not throw an interception. That's what I take away from his performance. With Fournette back there, hopefully, he won't be forced into the kind of bad decisions he made so many times last year. It's easy to become a game manager if you're handed something that can be managed. But if we're behind by 14 points, Bortles has to start taking chances, and that's bad. So, I'm just hoping he can be a better game manager this year. Don't turn the ball over.
Bullseye, to expand on your analysis, Fournette's vision was very impressive. Especially on that 4th and inches run. Fullback went left, he saw the hole on the right, cut back and took it what 7 yards?
Ivory started strong, but after seeing Fournette run, there's a clear difference between himself and the others.
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My thoughts are that it's preseason and you can't get too high or too low on what happened.
Fournette looks as advertised. The top 4 WRs (ARob, Hurns, Lee and Dede) are absolute locks to make the team. RBs are deep. Clearly the Jags wanted to run the Ball out the gate so I don't think you can really say anything negative about Blake. Excited for the next game. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! (08-11-2017, 06:41 AM)leopold332002 Wrote:Well.. where am I wrong... I'm mighty glad the guy that judges football IQ is going to teach me about football. I can't wait to read this one.(08-11-2017, 06:03 AM)David4499 Wrote: The problem I have is 0/3 on 3rd down conversions from the starting offense... Whatever our 2nd and 3rd teamers did was against their 2nd and 3rd stringers.
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I liked a lot of what I saw... but I didnt like the defensive scheme... now granted a lot of that if not all of it could be because it's preseason, but it sure looked like a lot of the same:
4 man rushes, sometimes putting the MLB over the center only to have him drop strait back, cover 2 zone with TE's running free between the open spots of said zone. no movement, no complicated coverages or blitzes, but again, could just be vanilla pre season stuff (08-11-2017, 07:29 AM)David4499 Wrote:(08-11-2017, 06:41 AM)leopold332002 Wrote: I hate to say this but your football IQ is dumber than Fred Flintstone in Bedrock lol.Well.. where am I wrong... I'm mighty glad the guy that judges football IQ is going to teach me about football. I can't wait to read this one. well for one thing, I watched every Bortles pass and each and every one was a perfect spiral, which is already improvement from last year... he didnt wobble a single pass. And 1 of his incompletions was a perfectly accurate 1st down that the WR dropped
(08-10-2017, 11:06 PM)Bullseye Wrote: At last, football is here. No longer do we have to imagine what if. No longer do we have to speculate only. Now, we can actually discuss what happened on the field. Here are my thoughts... Excellent analysis as always Bullseye. There are 10 kinds of people in this world. Those who understand binary and those who don't.
Great analysis, I agree with everything you said. I noticed the hold on Fowler too, that was his most disruptive play and would have likely been a sack if he wasn't held. A shame it wasn't called.
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My only gripe for Bortles was that on a couple of his passes it looked like he had decided he was making a certain pass before the play even started, and unless it's because he sees single coverage outside with no safety over the top I don't like seeing that kind of thing. Throwing short to a guy running into a linebacker isn't a great decision to me.
(08-11-2017, 06:03 AM)David4499 Wrote: The problem I have is 0/3 on 3rd down conversions from the starting offense... Whatever our 2nd and 3rd teamers did was against their 2nd and 3rd stringers. Lol..... Unfortunately I think this was a serious post ![]() (08-11-2017, 06:03 AM)David4499 Wrote: The problem I have is 0/3 on 3rd down conversions from the starting offense... Whatever our 2nd and 3rd teamers did was against their 2nd and 3rd stringers. Think before you speak.... Henne was in with backups and backups (and some of our starters still on O-Line) Shhhhhh (08-10-2017, 11:49 PM)Jags02 Wrote:(08-10-2017, 11:06 PM)Bullseye Wrote: At last, football is here. No longer do we have to imagine what if. No longer do we have to speculate only. Now, we can actually discuss what happened on the field. Here are my thoughts... I dunno. Henne has never been shy about throwing downfield. Now whether he completed those passes in the regular season is another matter. Allen's deep pass to Westbrook was good. Allen once again showed me he could get out of the pocket, and his slide after getting the first down showed good field awareness. I'm wondering what the difference is between he and Henne in the coaching staff's mind for them to be insistent that Henne is the backup. Is it the experience, or is there some other flaw in Allen's game that concerns the coaches? Worst to 1st. Curse Reversed!
We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! (08-11-2017, 06:03 AM)David4499 Wrote: The problem I have is 0/3 on 3rd down conversions from the starting offense... Whatever our 2nd and 3rd teamers did was against their 2nd and 3rd stringers. ![]()
"Before you criticize a man, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, if he gets angry, he's a mile away and barefoot."
I just love the way Fournette hits the hole with quickness and power, no dancing and no slowness, dude is gonna be a beast
<B><FONT color=cyan>Jags this is your year</FONT></B>
Grant bobbled the opening kickoff and we had a penalty assessed against us ...... I was like ....NNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I think it was Bortles goal to NOT throw an int so he took everything underneath. Gotta admit though, on the 3rd and goal incomplete pass, we had 4 players on pass routes and not a single one of them were even close to being open. Day and Yannick played freakish. Fowler looked more active -- perhaps this D is a better fit for him Myles Jack played decent --- I think think his body is better fit for a 3-4 Defense or a OLB in a 4-3. Rashad Greene is my enigma Fournette and even Ivory look like the real deal --- TJ Yeldon sucks OL was decent but there really weren't many holes opened up in the 1st half. Patriots have a lot of white dudes .... and just found their next welker / edelman in Austin Carr (UFA out of Northwestern) |
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