It's Blake. He's the ultimate tease in the sense that once in a while he'll have a game like he had in London. He's a great athlete and really does work hard at his craft.  He just doesn't have the ability to reliably and accurately put the ball where it needs to be. We haven't had a reliable QB really since Garrard (although Leftwich was a gunslinger, he didn't have the work ethic to really be a top tier QB).  Until we get that guy we'll always be flirting with 8-8 at best.

Leftwich had a great work ethic. His big problem was brittle bones.

He was not particularly known as a great worker in his time here. Some of the comments from teammates indicated it and it was one of the reasons Del Rio wasn't particularly fond of the guy. Do you remember his comment his rookie year about the NFL not being hard because he'd "already see it all" at Marshall?

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Glad that you are a career student and that you don't make the decisions for any of your 10 football teams.

You obviously don't know that Blake's option isn't guaranteed and that at any point the Jags can cut him and not pay him a dime unless he were injured, obviously.  Obviously, it's obvious.   Obviously.

While have some valid points.  We need to stop making excuses for Blake.  He just isn't good.  And wouldn't surprise me if was benched at some point for Nassib. 

Ya can't put the rediculious amount of batted away passes on the receivers.  Nor the throws way off the mark. Mentally Blake believes a AR15 clone is out there.  

Because way out of a receivers reach.  Over and over again.  He was so bad thought was watching Tebow out there.  3 plus quarters of junk passes.

This reply is to the topic starter. Won't let me reply from cell without quoting someone.

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Glad that you are a career student and that you don't make the decisions for any of your 10 football teams.

You obviously don't know that Blake's option isn't guaranteed and that at any point the Jags can cut him and not pay him a dime unless he were injured, obviously.  Obviously, it's obvious.   Obviously.

What do you mean by career student? I have been done with school for 20 years.

You don't make the decision either, obviously, and know I only have THREE teams.

Also, I do know the option is only guaranteed for injury but teams don't pick it up on players they lack confidence in.

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You don't miss on 20 passes.... it's Bortles fault.. All blame goes to Bortles.. He can't manage a game that we should win.. he can't bring us back from being down, he can't go 2 games w/o turning the ball over.... he's terrible

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I ain't no monkey... I'm an ape.

Our rushing defense deserves some blame too.

We are now officially dead last at stopping the run.

This has got to change.

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most of the passes that are batted down are slants run by lee. where his quickness has him open. but lee is like 4' 11" and bb5 has to throw down to him(we all know what lee does with high balls tips them for ints) bb5 is 6'5" so the angle of the throw is downward. Think about the slants arob ran those did not get knocked down bb5 could throw them at a taller target. JMO on the batted balls. We need to get that tinhorn reciever up to speed they say he can catch anything.

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most of the passes that are batted down are slants run by lee. where his quickness has him open. but lee is like 4' 11" and bb5 has to throw down to him(we all know what lee does with high balls tips them for ints) bb5 is 6'5" so the angle of the throw is downward. Think about the slants arob ran those did not get knocked down bb5 could throw them at a taller target. JMO on the batted balls. We need to get that tinhorn reciever up to speed they say he can catch anything.

Lol cmon man 

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The batted balls are a combination of not finding a throwing lane / no throwing lanes and offensive lineman pushed back onto their heels. A dlineman that isn't actively engaged by a olineman can read a quarterback and has carte blanche to get his hands up and bat balls.

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The batted balls are a combination of not finding a throwing lane / no throwing lanes and offensive lineman pushed back onto their heels.  A dlineman that isn't actively engaged by a olineman can read a quarterback and has carte blanche to get his hands up and bat balls.

All of this  ^  plus the fact that he stares down one receiver on 80% of his dropbacks.  

(to the other poster's silly suggestion that it's because he's throwing down to Lee: he had balls batted that were "aimed" to Marcedes Lewis and Fournette Sunday.  Lee measured exactly 6 feet at the combine BTW)

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You don't miss on 20 passes.... it's Bortles fault.. All blame goes to Bortles.. He can't manage a game that we should win.. he can't bring us back from being down, he can't go 2 games w/o turning the ball over.... he's terrible

It is not Blake's fault that a perfect pass was dropped in FG range on our second possession in OT.

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When your QB can't throw a spiral hardly and is off target most times it's easy to say the wide outs are a problem.

They routinely drop passes

Can't blame Blake for everything

http://stats.washingtonpost.com/fb/leade...=receiving

Lee (with 4 drops) is the only WR in the top 30 of drops (he's tied for the lead with OBJ)

I don't think drops are the problem so much as the inaccurate QB

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Blake gets some blame of course, but it hit me like a truck yesterday: The receivers never were that good. We pumped up Arob and Hurns and Lee but I never saw what I needed from any of them.

Arob- Great at jump balls
Hurns- Good at catches over the middle
Lee- Good at....I guess being quick and making 1 of 3 catches he should

We haven't seen any of them make a 10 yard catch, break some tackles and take it 50 yards to the house. That's my idea of a #1 wr.

We think Lee has that ability, but here in Jax we've become accustomed to "well we think this player has the ability to ________". And being 100...that thinking is faulty.

A player with such ability shows it immediately and consistently.

The coach's get out coached too often too. If a team takes you out your personality they've out-coached you. And the offensive game plans are extremely inconsistent. There's very little attack and more teaction.

After the beautiful, daring plan against Baltimore, it's like they took a week off in the game planning.

What I simply cannot understand is why the Jags don't have Fournette in on crucial 3rd down and goal line situations. WHY THE HELL DID YOU DRAFT THE GUY AT 4 OVERALL IF HE ISN'T GOING TO BE USED AS AN ELITE WEAPON IN GAME HINGING SITUATIONS?????

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Lee (with 4 drops) is the only WR in the top 30 of drops (he's tied for the lead with OBJ)

I don't think drops are the problem so much as the inaccurate QB

The number of drops by our receivers can partially be explained by the fact none of them wear #15. When we get that guy back, far fewer passes will be dropped. You also can't put all the blame on Blake Bortles for inaccurate passes. Sure, many of them are probably his fault, but people who watch football every week know a variety of factors go into what may appear to be a bad decision by the QB.

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Lee (with 4 drops) is the only WR in the top 30 of drops (he's tied for the lead with OBJ)

I don't think drops are the problem so much as the inaccurate QB

The number of drops by our receivers can partially be explained by the fact none of them wear #15. When we get that guy back, far fewer passes will be dropped. You also can't put all the blame on Blake Bortles for inaccurate passes. Sure, many of them are probably his fault, but people who watch football every week know a variety of factors go into what may appear to be a bad decision by the QB.

When 100 people think one way and 1 person thinks another, the 100 people aren't crazy.
Bortles inaccuracy is almost solely on him, his mechanics, and his decision making.

The number of drops I was talking about is in reference to the idea that we have receivers dropping passes left and right, we don't.
Lee is the ONLY one with credited "drops"
Our QB isn't bad because the WRs are dropping balls.

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Slow feet and release are probably why he got killed more than his bones.

I'm removing all of the blame from Blake regarding his duck passes

Blake gets some of the blame of course


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When 100 people think one way and 1 person thinks another, the 100 people aren't crazy.
Bortles inaccuracy is almost solely on him, his mechanics, and his decision making.

The number of drops I was talking about is in reference to the idea that we have receivers dropping passes left and right, we don't.
Lee is the ONLY one with credited "drops"
Our QB isn't bad because the WRs are dropping balls.

Marqise Lee has a history of dropping balls in coverage, but does a better job when he is open. Or so I thought before Sunday, when he was wide open and dropped critical passes in the fourth quarter and overtime. Allen Robinson, on the other paw, is our best WR on 50/50 passes. That is why Lee gets "credit" for lots of drops and Robinson does not every year. So the question is, how much should we blame Bortles for Lee's drops when he is wide open and seems to just have butterfingers?

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When 100 people think one way and 1 person thinks another, the 100 people aren't crazy.
Bortles inaccuracy is almost solely on him, his mechanics, and his decision making.

The number of drops I was talking about is in reference to the idea that we have receivers dropping passes left and right, we don't.
Lee is the ONLY one with credited "drops"
Our QB isn't bad because the WRs are dropping balls.

Marqise Lee has a history of dropping balls in coverage, but does a better job when he is open. Or so I thought before Sunday, when he was wide open and dropped critical passes in the fourth quarter and overtime. Allen Robinson, on the other paw, is our best WR on 50/50 passes. That is why Lee gets "credit" for lots of drops and Robinson does not every year. So the question is, how much should we blame Bortles for Lee's drops when he is wide open and seems to just have butterfingers?

Lee's 4 drops are solely on him.

The other 40+ misses on the season... well most of them are on Blake.
A few probably can be contributed to missed routes by young guys like Cole.... or throwaways... but Bortles accuracy was abysmal last Sunday.

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Marqise Lee has a history of dropping balls in coverage, but does a better job when he is open. Or so I thought before Sunday, when he was wide open and dropped critical passes in the fourth quarter and overtime. Allen Robinson, on the other paw, is our best WR on 50/50 passes. That is why Lee gets "credit" for lots of drops and Robinson does not every year. So the question is, how much should we blame Bortles for Lee's drops when he is wide open and seems to just have butterfingers?

Lee's 4 drops are solely on him.

The other 40+ misses on the season... well most of them are on Blake.
A few probably can be contributed to missed routes by young guys like Cole.... or throwaways... but Bortles accuracy was abysmal last Sunday.

Keelan Cole is an undraft4ed rookie, so miscommunication with him is natural. That is on both him and Blake Bortles because communication is a two-way street.

Whenever passes are inaccurate I do blame Bortles. I just have a hard time blaming him for drops.

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42% completion rate is all that should be discussed. That is horrible.

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42% completion rate is all that should be discussed. That is horrible.

... especially when you factor in 21 of this 66 completions are automatic completions to the RBs.

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