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People still don't get it. Blake Bortles might be gone next year. He might not. It is like saying everyone knew Andrew Luck was going to be the #1 pick . . . in 2011.

They're not going to pay him 18 million dollars to play next year. If they keep him, that's how much he will get.

So although no one can predict the future, it's a pretty good bet that the Jags don't want to pay him that much money.

The most logical outcome is that they cut Blake, pay him nothing and then sign a new QB and draft another.

I have been asking everyone why Tom Coughlin would pick up the option if he did not want to pay $18 million? The fact he did it is proof he is willing to pay that high salary.

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They're not going to pay him 18 million dollars to play next year. If they keep him, that's how much he will get.

So although no one can predict the future, it's a pretty good bet that the Jags don't want to pay him that much money.

The most logical outcome is that they cut Blake, pay him nothing and then sign a new QB and draft another.

I have been asking everyone why Tom Coughlin would pick up the option if he did not want to pay $18 million? The fact he did it is proof he is willing to pay that high salary.

He did it in case Bortles had a turn around season and played a lot better under Marrone. Bortles is still inaccurate and inconsistent.

It's really not that hard to connect the dots. Instead of arguing with everyone about this topic, think it through and jump on board!

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They're not going to pay him 18 million dollars to play next year. If they keep him, that's how much he will get.

So although no one can predict the future, it's a pretty good bet that the Jags don't want to pay him that much money.

The most logical outcome is that they cut Blake, pay him nothing and then sign a new QB and draft another.

I have been asking everyone why Tom Coughlin would pick up the option if he did not want to pay $18 million? The fact he did it is proof he is willing to pay that high salary.

For one... had they not picked it up and Bortles came out on fire, they'd be on the hook for much much more.
And in theory, they could have let him play it out and wait and see... but I think it has to do with giving Bortles a little confidence entering the season.
Alas, 4 games in, he's playing like poo mostly....

I wouldn't worry about Bortles' contract situation.
It really is gonna be someone else's problem.

My guess is he'll sign on with a lower tier team as competition for a young QB or as a developing prospect with a team like the Pats (assuming Jimmy G leaves in FA)

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I have been asking everyone why Tom Coughlin would pick up the option if he did not want to pay $18 million? The fact he did it is proof he is willing to pay that high salary.

He did it in case Bortles had a turn around season and played a lot better under Marrone. Bortles is still inaccurate and inconsistent.

It's really not that hard to connect the dots. Instead of arguing with everyone about this topic, think it through and jump on board!

My logic is based on connecting the dots.

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For one... had they not picked it up and Bortles came out on fire, they'd be on the hook for much much more.
And in theory, they could have let him play it out and wait and see... but I think it has to do with giving Bortles a little confidence entering the season.
Alas, 4 games in, he's playing like poo mostly....

I wouldn't worry about Bortles' contract situation.
It really is gonna be someone else's problem.

My guess is he'll sign on with a lower tier team as competition for a young QB or as a developing prospect with a team like the Pats (assuming Jimmy G leaves in FA)

If it was about confidence, every team in our situation would do it.

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He did it in case Bortles had a turn around season and played a lot better under Marrone. Bortles is still inaccurate and inconsistent.

It's really not that hard to connect the dots. Instead of arguing with everyone about this topic, think it through and jump on board!

My logic is based on connecting the dots.

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For one... had they not picked it up and Bortles came out on fire, they'd be on the hook for much much more.
And in theory, they could have let him play it out and wait and see... but I think it has to do with giving Bortles a little confidence entering the season.
Alas, 4 games in, he's playing like poo mostly....

I wouldn't worry about Bortles' contract situation.
It really is gonna be someone else's problem.

My guess is he'll sign on with a lower tier team as competition for a young QB or as a developing prospect with a team like the Pats (assuming Jimmy G leaves in FA)

If it was about confidence, every team in our situation would do it.

Well this is why we have an avatar bet.

I got a great picture lined up for you. Hopefully you'll hate it.

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My logic is based on connecting the dots.

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If it was about confidence, every team in our situation would do it.

Well this is why we have an avatar bet.

I got a great picture lined up for you. Hopefully you'll hate it.

I actually forgot who I am betting with.

So how long does one of us use a different avatar?

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All I've read here is about balls dropping.

Sounds painful.

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80% of what I talk about is nonesense.. the other 25% is made up statistics...


 

Well this is why we have an avatar bet.

I got a great picture lined up for you. Hopefully you'll hate it.

I actually forgot who I am betting with.

So how long does one of us use a different avatar?

We have the bet.

3 months? 6 Months? A year?

How long works for you?

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He did it in case Bortles had a turn around season and played a lot better under Marrone. Bortles is still inaccurate and inconsistent.

It's really not that hard to connect the dots. Instead of arguing with everyone about this topic, think it through and jump on board!

My logic is based on connecting the dots.

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For one... had they not picked it up and Bortles came out on fire, they'd be on the hook for much much more.
And in theory, they could have let him play it out and wait and see... but I think it has to do with giving Bortles a little confidence entering the season.
Alas, 4 games in, he's playing like poo mostly....

I wouldn't worry about Bortles' contract situation.
It really is gonna be someone else's problem.

My guess is he'll sign on with a lower tier team as competition for a young QB or as a developing prospect with a team like the Pats (assuming Jimmy G leaves in FA)

If it was about confidence, every team in our situation would do it.

Not every team is run as poorly as ours lol
But seriously...... it's an option that the team picked up because they know they don't actually have to pay it as long as Bortles is able to play next season.
If he played well this year, they could keep him on the hook for 18 mil while figuring out the next contract step... if he didn't (which he isn't) they'll be able to cut bait barring serious injury.
It really isn't hard to comprehend. They were protecting themselves in case Bortles had a Joe Flacco type contract year.
With the 5th year option, there is no discussion to be had.

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I actually forgot who I am betting with.

So how long does one of us use a different avatar?

We have the bet.

3 months? 6 Months? A year?

How long works for you?

Until the draft is over. Then we will know if a new QB is waiting in line.

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I have been asking everyone why Tom Coughlin would pick up the option if he did not want to pay $18 million? The fact he did it is proof he is willing to pay that high salary.

He did it in case Bortles had a turn around season and played a lot better under Marrone. Bortles is still inaccurate and inconsistent.

It's really not that hard to connect the dots. Instead of arguing with everyone about this topic, think it through and jump on board!

If the decision was for a player at the vast majority of other positions  (  maybe even all other positions ),  the Jaguars probably wouldn't have picked up the option if the player was the equivalent of Blake Bortles is as QB.   Because the demand for quality QBs is higher than the supply and the Jaguars had the salary cap flexibility,  it's understandable why they picked up Bortles'  5th year option.  Especially, when also factoring in what you mentioned regarding the improvement Bortles displayed under then interim HC Doug Marrone  late last season.   It's near certain that the Jaguars QB room in 2018 won't look anything like the current QB room.

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If the decision was for a player at the vast majority of other positions (maybe even all other positions), the Jaguars probably wouldn't have picked up the option if the player was the equivalent of Blake Bortles is as QB. Because the demand for quality QBs is higher than the supply and the Jaguars had the salary cap flexibility, it's understandable why they picked up Bortles' 5th year option. Especially, when also factoring in what you mentioned regarding the improvement Bortles displayed under then interim HC Doug Marrone late last season. It's near certain that the Jaguars QB room in 2018 won't look anything like the current QB room.

FWIW, David Carr said during the preseason Blake Bortles needs to get out of Jacksonville and "start over," adding he liked Bortles during the 2014 draft. This sounded like Carr took a subtle shot at his former coach because Tom Coughlin is the man responsible for keeping Bortles in Jacksonville. However, the fact that Bortles played his best game when Marrone replaced Gus Bradley validates my argument that Bradley, a DC who knows nothing about developing QBs, was directly at fault for Bortles struggling all year. That would explain why Carr thinks Bortles is on the wrong team if Doug Marrone also was fired, but the decision to keep Marrone was primarily to help Bortles. This complicates the idea that starting over is the right move for Bortles, who then would have to learn a new offense with different teammates, etc. If this was the main reason for keeping Marrone why would we want to tell #5 he does not belong here?

The QB room could still have Ryan Nassib, who Coughlin signed because they were together with the Giants. I don't know much about him as a QB except he is right-handed and has a #4 jersey.

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It's Blake man. No need to try and deflect it anywhere else. The dude can barely hit a wide open target. His throws are god awful. His mechanics are obviously flawed. Not only is he one of the worst QB's in the NFL when it comes to protecting it he's also one of the worst when it comes to batted passes at the line and he can't get it done on 3rd down where your QB is supposed to come through for you and keep the games alive.

He's always had an issue with his completion percentages. He's never going to change. With that said. We had the Jets beat. Benn killed it with a holding call before it went into OT. And Lee has to make that catch. When your QB is as inaccurate and inconsistent as he is the players around him have to be damn near flawless themselves at their own positions to make him look better.

That's just the sad thing about the NFL. You'll have GREAT QB's like Matthew Stafford and Kirk Cousins on teams that they literally have to carry. And then you have SUBPAR QB's like Bortles that have to be carried by everybody else. Maybe we'll get lucky. It's hard not to bring up Watson after seeing what he's done already with the tinhorns. It's sickening to be honest. And it's not like they have the greatest offensive line down there. He's having to make plays that wouldn't be there for an average passer.

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Yeah some of it goes on Blake, but a big part of it is on the weapons and coaching.

Someone mentioned actually playing wr, I have in HS and minor league. In minor league we had two QB's. A tall prototype and a short scrambler. The tall guy threw perfect spirals and was the starter. The back-up threw a lot of ducks but you know what...I preferred the short, duck thrower.

Point was, a duck isn't any harder to catch. In fact a spiral is harder to catch. But if you're a WR and been catching your entire life it really doesn't matter.

These guys CAN'T CATCH is what I'm saying. They don't (except Hurns) catch the ball like people who have been catching all their lives. A pass that's off the mark should be only a minor inconvenience unless you're being hammered by a DB at the same time. If the ball is in your circumference you should be able to catch it and it's not off the mark.

I'm betting 50% of Blake's INT's are off deflections!

Stuff like this gets into the head of the QB. When you make throws to a guy with DL all over you and yeah it may not be perfect, but the Receiver drops it, or worst yet deflects it into a INT.

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Perhaps the coach's put together a game plan that Blake doesn't believe in? That's what his play and body language suggest to me. Are they conferring with him or just handing him the game plan like "Here is what you do on Sunday".

Coaching is one part psychology too. You have to know how to get the best from your players physically and emotionally.

Have they sat him down and tried to determine why his body language says he's unhappy? Have they paid attention to the locker room to determine (silly as it sounds) if he's being bullied or ganged up on? Are all his WR's unhappy and talking smack to him, or is one prominent guy doing this?

Things like this occur in even PROFESSIONAL locker rooms.

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Perhaps the coach's put together a game plan that Blake doesn't believe in? That's what his play and body language suggest to me. Are they conferring with him or just handing him the game plan like "Here is what you do on Sunday".

Coaching is one part psychology too. You have to know how to get the best from your players physically and emotionally.

Have they sat him down and tried to determine why his body language says he's unhappy? Have they paid attention to the locker room to determine (silly as it sounds) if he's being bullied or ganged up on? Are all his WR's unhappy and talking smack to him, or is one prominent guy doing this?

Things like this occur in even PROFESSIONAL locker rooms.

Who the [BLEEP] cares?

He's the QB.  It's his job to throw the damn ball.  It's the coach's job to teach him how to play the position more effectively.  The coach can't be there on the field with him, holding his hand.

Blake consistently makes the wrong reads.  He consistently throws behind or overthrows wide open receivers.  He consistently has passes batted at the line.  He consistently throws idiotic passes when he shouldn't.

Do the receivers share some of the blame?  Of course they do.  Lee has to learn to catch.  But the coaches have receivers open often that Blake doesn't see, and there still had not been a gameplan I've seen that has been egregious in any way--in fact, if not for Blake's errors, we beat the Jets and the Titans game would've been far closer.

This defense is doing its job.  The offense isn't, and that, while not being totally on Bortles, is mostly his fault.

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All I've read here is about balls dropping.

Sounds painful.

Better than balls not dropping 

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What exactly is minor league football?

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All of these WRs are VERY overrated. None of them come CLOSE to Jimmy Smith/Keenan McCardell. Their route running was amazing, toe touches on sideline, etc etc.

How many balls have you ever seen Jimmy Smith or Keenan drop?!!?

The current WRs are very overrated.

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Yeah some of it goes on Blake, but a big part of it is on the weapons and coaching.

Someone mentioned actually playing wr, I have in HS and minor league. In minor league we had two QB's. A tall prototype and a short scrambler. The tall guy threw perfect spirals and was the starter. The back-up threw a lot of ducks but you know what...I preferred the short, duck thrower.

Point was, a duck isn't any harder to catch. In fact a spiral is harder to catch. But if you're a WR and been catching your entire life it really doesn't matter.

These guys CAN'T CATCH is what I'm saying. They don't (except Hurns) catch the ball like people who have been catching all their lives. A pass that's off the mark should be only a minor inconvenience unless you're being hammered by a DB at the same time. If the ball is in your circumference you should be able to catch it and it's not off the mark.

I'm betting 50% of Blake's INT's are off deflections!

Stuff like this gets into the head of the QB. When you make throws to a guy with DL all over you and yeah it may not be perfect, but the Receiver drops it, or worst yet deflects it into a INT.

Lol just no. Ducks arnt harder? Spirals are harder to catch? Nobody will ever agree with you about that. I'm in my 8th year of semi pro. People who throw ducks won't be have any zip on it so maybe that's easier for you personally but besides that, what you said isn't be real. Any hands catcher that doesn't rely on body catches needs a spiral. A spiral makes a tremendous deference for watching the ball into your hands and forming your hands around the ball for a clean clean catch. ANd any defense will tell  you how much easier it is when the ball flutters, hangs, and has no zip without a spiral. 

ANyways, Blake would have done enough to win the game. Dumped off to fournette for a td or atleast the three yard line if Benn didn't hold. Or when he hit lee amen dropped it. But at the end of the day blakes quality of play isn't anywhere near good enough to go anywhere in the playoffs. I have been a huge supporter of him but the writing is on the wall. I do believe the coaches calls were questionable at critical times. The oline isnt run blocking well and lee isn't good in this role. He is a great wr3 and can make plays when not focused or depended on. All through college and pros he has been a body catcher and you be that as the number one guy

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I agree with the OP to an extent.


All the blame does not go on Blake.

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