The Jags are talked about as the next most likely team to move.

By who? Bill’s fans? Funny how teams are following the Jags lead now and trying to get London games to maximize profits.

Oooohh Canada....

By people who talk about NFL things. Jags are often mentioned as the most likely team to become a London franchise. 

Toronto always had to pull a Jags move and tarp off seats cause there isn't enough interest in Canada for the NFL.

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I've never been to Buffalo, but you're probably right about the current state of affairs with having a larger fan base and more of a big city feel with better restaurant choices at present, but things do change.  The Bills have been around for a lot longer which explains all of that, but you're holding up two dying markets compared to one of the hottest in the nation real estate wise.  I got news for you...  Despite dodging the bullet recently, the Bills won't be in Buffalo forever as long as the grass is continually getting greener in a lot of other places.  Does your fandom travel with the team when it goes or does it stay with the city of Buffalo?  Sure, maybe the team stays close and just moves to Toronto.  Maybe they even keep the name Buffalo Bills by positioning themselves between Buffalo and Toronto, but you guys are going to have to do something about the continual population decline of the area (that's been in consistent decline since the 50's) if the team is going to remain there and I don't know if there is anything that can be done when the state of New York is competing with other, friendlier states for new businesses and the fact that people generally prefer to move to warmer climates if given the choice alone without a job being the driving factor.  But that doesn't explain Toronto which is apparently thriving.  You must be praying for natural disasters to wipe out California and Florida.  That might be the only thing that keeps the Bills where they are.  And I'd put odds on if either franchise moves, the Bills are much more likely to do so than the Jags.  You guys haven't been the visiting team here since 2013.  A lot has changed since then and you'll see it when you get to the stadium.  And if you're the visiting team again in a few years, you'll see a lot more changes around the stadium then too.  When the Bills do leave, if you decide to jump ship I'd completely understand.  We'd welcome your type of fandom as a Jags fan with open arms when the time comes.

The Jags are talked about as the next most likely team to move.

When you don’t have anything else to offer, break out the relocation talk, no matter how misguided it is.

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I've never been to Buffalo, but you're probably right about the current state of affairs with having a larger fan base and more of a big city feel with better restaurant choices at present, but things do change.  The Bills have been around for a lot longer which explains all of that, but you're holding up two dying markets compared to one of the hottest in the nation real estate wise.  I got news for you...  Despite dodging the bullet recently, the Bills won't be in Buffalo forever as long as the grass is continually getting greener in a lot of other places.  Does your fandom travel with the team when it goes or does it stay with the city of Buffalo?  Sure, maybe the team stays close and just moves to Toronto.  Maybe they even keep the name Buffalo Bills by positioning themselves between Buffalo and Toronto, but you guys are going to have to do something about the continual population decline of the area (that's been in consistent decline since the 50's) if the team is going to remain there and I don't know if there is anything that can be done when the state of New York is competing with other, friendlier states for new businesses and the fact that people generally prefer to move to warmer climates if given the choice alone without a job being the driving factor.  But that doesn't explain Toronto which is apparently thriving.  You must be praying for natural disasters to wipe out California and Florida.  That might be the only thing that keeps the Bills where they are.  And I'd put odds on if either franchise moves, the Bills are much more likely to do so than the Jags.  You guys haven't been the visiting team here since 2013.  A lot has changed since then and you'll see it when you get to the stadium.  And if you're the visiting team again in a few years, you'll see a lot more changes around the stadium then too.  When the Bills do leave, if you decide to jump ship I'd completely understand.  We'd welcome your type of fandom as a Jags fan with open arms when the time comes.

I’m not sure that you understand how this thing works. The OWNER decides where the team plays, not the league. The Bills are owned by a very rich guy that has roots and a substantial investment in WNY. They call it Pegulaville. The second that he and his wife purchased the team ensured that the Bills would remain in WNY for generations.

Wow, I am not in denial that Jags is at some risk of moving. But this post sounds exactly like someone on this board saying that Khan building/buying the shipyards will make him stay in J-Ville. Growth and profit make owners stay. That requires new stadiums revenue etc. With a shrinking population Buffalo is already doing the opposite of growth. What happens when its time for you guys to fork out for the new stadium? Is Buffalo gonna pay for that? Jacksonville just did renovations a couple years ago and I think is very likely to help with a new stadium cause a. our town is growing, and b. we have done it before.

Media talk is cheap, we will see what happens when you guys get past 2020 on the move front (or whenever that penalty ends).

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By who? Bill’s fans? Funny how teams are following the Jags lead now and trying to get London games to maximize profits.

Oooohh Canada....

By people who talk about NFL things. Jags are often mentioned as the most likely team to become a London franchise. 

Toronto always had to pull a Jags move and tarp off seats cause there isn't enough interest in Canada for the NFL.

Swing and a miss, skippy.  But hey, when you have to try to compare a dying town like Buffalo to one of the fastest growing cities in the country, years old relocation talk certainly seems logical.   Much like your town, your smack is stuck in the last decade. Maybe you should hop in your rusty Camaro and take a spin to the falls.

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Bills fans like to party. Went to game around 7 years ago in Buffalo. Buffalo scored on the opening drive and some gigantic latino dude jumped up on the seat in front of me, faced me, chugged a tall boy, then started doing hip thrusts towards my face. There were a few kids beh8 nd me, early 20s, passing around a breathalyzer. Some young Asian kid blew a .34 and was really proud about it. About 15 minutes later he was passed out and vomiting on himself. Jags won the game and I talked a lot of tradh on the way out. Nobody got physically confrontational with me though.

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By who? Bill’s fans? Funny how teams are following the Jags lead now and trying to get London games to maximize profits.

Oooohh Canada....

By people who talk about NFL things. Jags are often mentioned as the most likely team to become a London franchise. 

Toronto always had to pull a Jags move and tarp off seats cause there isn't enough interest in Canada for the NFL.

The only people talking about the Jags moving are people who are ill-informed on the matter. 

Much like your owner's investments in Buffalo - the Jags' owner is doing the same thing in Jacksonville. 
He's very wise to build an international fan base in London and profit from playing a game there each year for the foreseeable future since his franchise is based in a small market town. 

Khan's $500+ million bid to the city to develop a waterfront district near the stadium has been approved and he's not planning on moving the team. 
https://www.news4jax.com/news/local/jack...l-rankings

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I’m not sure that you understand how this thing works. The OWNER decides where the team plays, not the league. The Bills are owned by a very rich guy that has roots and a substantial investment in WNY. They call it Pegulaville. The second that he and his wife purchased the team ensured that the Bills would remain in WNY for generations.

Wow, I am not in denial that Jags is at some risk of moving. But this post sounds exactly like someone on this board saying that Khan building/buying the shipyards will make him stay in J-Ville. Growth and profit make owners stay. That requires new stadiums revenue etc. With a shrinking population Buffalo is already doing the opposite of growth. What happens when its time for you guys to fork out for the new stadium? Is Buffalo gonna pay for that? Jacksonville just did renovations a couple years ago and I think is very likely to help with a new stadium cause a. our town is growing, and b. we have done it before.

Media talk is cheap, we will see what happens when you guys get past 2020 on the move front (or whenever that penalty ends).

No, seriously the Bills owner also owns the Sabres. He owns about half of downtown as well. His wife is from there. You won’t find anyone with knowledge of he situation in the league, state or city that thinks relocation is even a possibility. The team is owned by Kim and Terry. Kim is only 48 and they have kids that want the teams (plural) as well. This isn’t delusional; it is informed. 

It sounds like the majority of the stadium will be funded by the Pegula’s and Jeremy Jacobs. There is ZERO concern in WNY about relocation. 

With all due respect you don’t know much on the topic if you think that relocation is a possibility for the Bills. That was a conversation prior to the sale but no longer an option. There were all kinds of stipulations in the lease that tied the team to WNY which is what scared of buyers that thought about moving the team. They would have had to be a lame duck for at least 7 seasons. The Pegula’s were the dream buyers and the moment they got involved ended that.

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By people who talk about NFL things. Jags are often mentioned as the most likely team to become a London franchise. 

Toronto always had to pull a Jags move and tarp off seats cause there isn't enough interest in Canada for the NFL.

Swing and a miss, skippy.  But hey, when you have to try to compare a dying town like Buffalo to one of the fastest growing cities in the country, years old relocation talk certainly seems logical.   Much like your town, your smack is stuck in the last decade.  Maybe you should hop in your rusty Camaro and take a spin to the falls.

Buffalo is dying, and Jacksonville is booming. Awesome. The Bills average more in attendance than the Jags, and did so again this year despite having two games in severe winter weather. One in a snow storm, and the other in extreme cold. Whats your excuse for Jacksonville?

https://www.ft.com/content/669fb90a-971f...d8fa6961bb

Oakland might court Titans and Jaguars after Raiders Leave.

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Swing and a miss, skippy.  But hey, when you have to try to compare a dying town like Buffalo to one of the fastest growing cities in the country, years old relocation talk certainly seems logical.   Much like your town, your smack is stuck in the last decade.  Maybe you should hop in your rusty Camaro and take a spin to the falls.

Buffalo is dying, and Jacksonville is booming. Awesome. The Bills average more in attendance than the Jags, and did so again this year despite having two games in severe winter weather. One in a snow storm, and the other in extreme cold. Whats your excuse for Jacksonville?

What's your end game here?

We both now that after the Bills lose this Sunday, you're going to never show up again.

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Buffalo is dying, and Jacksonville is booming. Awesome. The Bills average more in attendance than the Jags, and did so again this year despite having two games in severe winter weather. One in a snow storm, and the other in extreme cold. Whats your excuse for Jacksonville?

What's your end game here?

We both now that after the Bills lose this Sunday, you're going to never show up again.

Don't have an end game. Just came over to talk about the game. Am I not allowed to respond to the critics?

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Swing and a miss, skippy.  But hey, when you have to try to compare a dying town like Buffalo to one of the fastest growing cities in the country, years old relocation talk certainly seems logical.   Much like your town, your smack is stuck in the last decade.  Maybe you should hop in your rusty Camaro and take a spin to the falls.

Buffalo is dying, and Jacksonville is booming. Awesome. The Bills average more in attendance than the Jags, and did so again this year despite having two games in severe winter weather. One in a snow storm, and the other in extreme cold. Whats your excuse for Jacksonville?

Who is making excuses?   Our stadium is 7k seats smaller than that dump your boys play in.  I’m assumibg they still teach simple math in Buffalo?

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Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

Buffalo is dying, and Jacksonville is booming. Awesome. The Bills average more in attendance than the Jags, and did so again this year despite having two games in severe winter weather. One in a snow storm, and the other in extreme cold. Whats your excuse for Jacksonville?

Who is making excuses?   Our stadium is 7k seats smaller than that dump your boys play in.  I’m assumibg they still teach simple math in Buffalo?

You guys sell out all your games? So why do they tarp off the seats?

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Who is making excuses?   Our stadium is 7k seats smaller than that dump your boys play in.  I’m assumibg they still teach simple math in Buffalo?

You guys sell out all your games? So why do they tarp off the seats?

The tarps are there because unlike Buffalo, we’ve figured out that the stadium was too big for the market. Oddly enough, if you look at the stats for this season, Buffalo shows they were at 95.5% capacity for 2017.  Care to guess what Jacksonville’s number was?  95.5%.  Any other meaningless smack you want to run here before you crank up the Def Leppard in the Camaro cassette deck?

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By who? Bill’s fans? Funny how teams are following the Jags lead now and trying to get London games to maximize profits.

Oooohh Canada....

By people who talk about NFL things. Jags are often mentioned as the most likely team to become a London franchise. 

Toronto always had to pull a Jags move and tarp off seats cause there isn't enough interest in Canada for the NFL.

I guess if you hear it often, these aren’t folks I’d consider talking about or even knowing “NFL things.”

Market size or interest? The two aren’t synonymous. 

Got to give ill’s fans credit for mostly sticking around over the years, but then again the options are pretty limited.

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You mock but I've been to Wal-Mart in Jacksonville; glass houses.

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What's your end game here?

We both now that after the Bills lose this Sunday, you're going to never show up again.

Don't have an end game. Just came over to talk about the game. Am I not allowed to respond to the critics?

How is disrespecting the Jags attendance record (which you're wrong about) talking about the game? Respond all you want but at least get your facts right.

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Don't have an end game. Just came over to talk about the game. Am I not allowed to respond to the critics?

How is disrespecting the Jags attendance record (which you're wrong about) talking about the game? Respond all you want but at least get your facts right.

What am I wrong about? Go here and look at home attendance numbers. 

NFL Attendance Numbers for 2017

PS -Sorry to call out the Jags attendance on a thread dedicated to making fun of Bills fans with pictures.

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How is disrespecting the Jags attendance record (which you're wrong about) talking about the game? Respond all you want but at least get your facts right.

What am I wrong about? Go here and look at home attendance numbers. 

NFL Attendance Numbers for 2017

PS -Sorry to call out the Jags attendance on a thread dedicated to making fun of Bills fans with pictures.

Hmmmmm.......

You do realize that the spreadsheet you referenced includes both home and away games, don't you. 

Sometimes fans turn out for easy wins at home. What was the Bills' road record?

PS. here's a hint. The difference between teams is under 1300 fans per game. Math is fun.

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How is disrespecting the Jags attendance record (which you're wrong about) talking about the game? Respond all you want but at least get your facts right.

What am I wrong about? Go here and look at home attendance numbers. 

NFL Attendance Numbers for 2017

PS -Sorry to call out the Jags attendance on a thread dedicated to making fun of Bills fans with pictures.

Numbers are fun I guess.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/attendance/_/sort/homePct

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What am I wrong about? Go here and look at home attendance numbers. 

NFL Attendance Numbers for 2017

PS -Sorry to call out the Jags attendance on a thread dedicated to making fun of Bills fans with pictures.

Hmmmmm.......

You do realize that the spreadsheet you referenced includes both home and away games, don't you. 

Sometimes fans turn out for easy wins at home. What was the Bills' road record?

You can sort by both home and away attendance.  The Bills outdrew us by a whopping 19,000,  The thing I find interesting is that we outdrew the Bills by 29,000 on the road...since they travel so well and all.

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