Well of course. There would definitely be some less developed life. In fact, most researchers believe our first official contact will be some sort of bacterial life.

That being said, look how much Humans have advanced in just 200 years. Even in 100 years we went from steam trains to space travel. Imagine if there were a life form that's been around just 500 or 1000 years longer than us? What about a million years longer?

or they could be even closer like where we were in the 1800's or they could be like where we were at the time of the Egyptian Pharaohs, or like we will be in the year 3000...My point was that no one ever talks about finding a civilization as advanced as ours, they all seem to assume that any species we encounter will be more advanced than us...Imagine that we found a way to shoot a satellite way the [BLEEP] out there and found a civilization who are fairly close to our technological level but lag behind a few hundred or 10K or so years behind us...I wonder what we would do... I'm specifically talking about life as we know it, rather than microbial or bacterial life...

Absolutely, I addressed this earlier. Just change the idea to us being the visitors:

"You have to wonder, though, if a society so advanced to be able to get here might have protocols for contact with underdeveloped intelligence. I mean even our Sci-Fi media has the idea bouncing around that you don't just go land on a planet and hang out with a species that isn't close to your technological capabilities. Who's to say they aren't following similar rules?"

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or they could be even closer like where we were in the 1800's or they could be like where we were at the time of the Egyptian Pharaohs, or like we will be in the year 3000...My point was that no one ever talks about finding a civilization as advanced as ours, they all seem to assume that any species we encounter will be more advanced than us...Imagine that we found a way to shoot a satellite way the [BLEEP] out there and found a civilization who are fairly close to our technological level but lag behind a few hundred or 10K or so years behind us...I wonder what we would do... I'm specifically talking about life as we know it, rather than microbial or bacterial life...

Absolutely, I addressed this earlier. Just change the idea to us being the visitors:

"You have to wonder, though, if a society so advanced to be able to get here might have protocols for contact with underdeveloped intelligence. I mean even our Sci-Fi media has the idea bouncing around that you don't just go land on a planet and hang out with a species that isn't close to your technological capabilities. Who's to say they aren't following similar rules?"

IDK, part of me says they wouldnt bother with us, another part of me says they may just give us some help on renewable energy or cures for diseases that are just out of our reach right now, but nothing super duper high tech stuff...They would more than likely consider where we are at to be old and outdated or obsolete tech that they hadn't even thought of in ages so helping us in that aspect might not be a big deal to them...

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I don't think we're alone. Mathematically the possibilities of another life form as advanced as ours existing elsewhere is too great not to consider. I think we have a lot of ancient evidence that exists now that indicates we haven't been alone for thousands of years. But like a few folks have pointed out. And I personally like Joe Rogan's take on this subject. If an advanced alien life form did exist. Why would they waste their time [BLEEP] around with us here on Earth? We look like bacteria on a sandwich from outer space anyway. And we clearly have a poor history. So why bother?

With that said. Anytime I see these types of UFOs I usually go back to Area 51 and the black budget. And how trillions of dollars seem to go missing every other year or decade and the Pentagon or Government in general just doesn't seem to have an answer for it. And people gloss over that. I personally feel that most of these sightings are truly just sophisticated technology that the military industrial complex, top notch scientists and aerodynamic engineers, etc. have been able to come up with and develop with what seems to be a bottomless supply of cash to play with.

Now, whether some of that technology is "alien" or "other worldly" I cannot say. But I think most of these sightings are just quality pilots flying quality machines that someday our Government and possibly together with NASA or for War will aim to utilize and roll out over time to explore or conquer.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

Looking at ‘other life’ purely scientifically, sure, the odds are in favor of there being other life. But considering the vastness of space, the odds that make it probable is also the same reason it makes it improbable of that said life finding us even if looking for it. Would be like finding another needle or two in the biggest haystack ever created. Not to mention our own history. We can’t even find new land on earth with out fighting over it. So if we were found, I doubt it would end well for us. We’re looking at trying to colonize Mars because maybe in a thousand or million years or whatever Earth may be uninhabitable. You’re not going to traverse across the universe to say hi! Earlier I referenced the haystack being created. Which brings up another topic. I won’t go into religion due to CoC but I feel there is lots that can be discussed with it. I feel that science can go hand in hand with it if you just change a few small details. Heck, I’ll give you the BIG Bang and still explain why it can coincide with religion. I understand a lot of people especially scientists don’t believe in it. So that convo could potentially go no where anyways. ( I hope no rules were broken)

That being said, I’m with Caldrac on the military aspect. I feel all the funny little lights and shapes people see are military and some just phenomena which have yet been explained or discovered.

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Looking at ‘other life’ purely scientifically, sure, the odds are in favor of there being other life.   But considering the vastness of space, the odds that make it probable is also the same reason it makes it improbable of that said life finding us even if looking for it.  Would be like finding another needle or two in the biggest haystack ever created.  Not to mention our own history.   We can’t even find new land on earth with out fighting over it.  So if we were found, I doubt it would end well for us.  We’re looking at trying to colonize Mars because maybe in a thousand or million years or whatever Earth may be uninhabitable.   You’re not going to traverse across the universe to say hi!  Earlier I referenced the haystack being created.   Which brings up another topic.  I won’t go into religion due to CoC but I feel there is lots that can be discussed with it.  I feel that science can go hand in hand with it if you just change a few small details.  Heck, I’ll give you the BIG Bang and still explain why it can coincide with religion.  I understand a lot of people especially scientists don’t believe in it.  So that convo could potentially go no where anyways.  ( I hope no rules were broken)

That being said,  I’m with Caldrac on the military aspect.  I feel all the funny little lights and shapes people see are military and some just phenomena which have yet been explained or discovered.

Just because it's hard to find doesn't mean you shouldn't look though.

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Looking at ‘other life’ purely scientifically, sure, the odds are in favor of there being other life.   But considering the vastness of space, the odds that make it probable is also the same reason it makes it improbable of that said life finding us even if looking for it.  Would be like finding another needle or two in the biggest haystack ever created.  Not to mention our own history.   We can’t even find new land on earth with out fighting over it.  So if we were found, I doubt it would end well for us.  We’re looking at trying to colonize Mars because maybe in a thousand or million years or whatever Earth may be uninhabitable.   You’re not going to traverse across the universe to say hi!  Earlier I referenced the haystack being created.   Which brings up another topic.  I won’t go into religion due to CoC but I feel there is lots that can be discussed with it.  I feel that science can go hand in hand with it if you just change a few small details.  Heck, I’ll give you the BIG Bang and still explain why it can coincide with religion.  I understand a lot of people especially scientists don’t believe in it.  So that convo could potentially go no where anyways.  ( I hope no rules were broken)

That being said,  I’m with Caldrac on the military aspect.  I feel all the funny little lights and shapes people see are military and some just phenomena which have yet been explained or discovered.

I don’t disagree.  I’m just saying that it’s highly improbable for what’s shown in those videos to be other intelligent life.  But, by all means search.   I think curiosity is a good thing.  Maybe you find it, maybe not.  But a lot will be learned in the process.
Just because it's hard to find doesn't mean you shouldn't look though.

Whoops, sorry for the horrendous quoting ability.

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Let's start with the premise that we now have reached a technological level to create interstellar space travel. Admittedly it would be prohibitively expensive and rather primitive, but humanity has the technology to do it.

To have visitors to Earth means that there is another race out there that is also capable of interstellar travel (RCIT), and presumably much better at it. That means two or more races exist at the same time. If so, then the development of a RCIT in our galaxy is reasonably common, and many such races should have been created in the last (say) 10 million years. Surely if that were true one of those races would have by now settled every habitable planet in the galaxy. At 1/10th light speed, it would take a million years to go from one end of the galaxy to the other. In 10 million years every habitable planet in the galaxy would be colonized, and this is limited by construction and travel speed, not procreation speed. The idea of a benevolent race careful of not destroying native life is a pretty image, but such a race is unlikely. It takes some level of aggression to develop a high level of intelligence. If RCITs were common, the Earth would have been colonized long ago and we would not be here.

You don't send out an expensive spaceship to travel on a very long trip (at least four years but probably a lot more) unless you were interested in staying for a long time. Even if you buy into the benevolent race theory, they would not be coming to Earth just to observe us unless they were also capable of speeds much faster than light (FTL). 

So we're stuck with either a hypothetical benevolent race that is capable of FTL travel, successfully suppressed all competition for maybe a billion years, and is keeping the Earth as a zoo. Or we haven't been visited by an alien race. The latter is way more likely.

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"Why should I give information to you when all you want to do is find something wrong with it?"

I think theres life forms so advanced from our own that we couldn't even comprehend or interact with them if we tried.

That's my theory on aliens more so than them being life forms like our own.

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I mean alien life forms have just as much the chances of landing in the United States as they do... anywhere else in the world.  Iraq.  Iran.  North Korea.  Pakistan.  China.  India.  Anywhere in Europe, including Russia and anywhere in Africa.

I'm not so sure.

If you were highly advanced lifeforms, wouldn't you seek out the leaders or the strongest nations? If they were advanced, like we were, then I think you're right. But I don't think a civilization at our point would find other planets with lifeforms. I think that if a species is as developed as it takes to find lifeforms on other planets then you'd be advanced enough to find the strongest / smartest nations.

That would be like seeking out the king of the rat colony.   I think they'd be advanced enough to avoid everyone down here, and treat the earth like a zoo.  

There's no reason for them to contact us.  We have nothing to offer them.

I think that's why we only see them occasionally, when one of them gets careless and gets spotted.  Then they haul [BLEEP] out of here, because they don't want anything to do with us.

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I think theres life forms so advanced from our own that we couldn't even comprehend or interact with them if we tried.

That's my theory on aliens more so than them being life forms like our own.

Inter-dimensional beings match that description. And if we've had contact on Earth, that's a more likely scenario. Another dimension occupying the same physical space we are. 

There's a theory that ghosts are actually extradimensional beings, which is why they're so hard to see/contact. Essentially they could be completely different beings, or there's the possibility your "soul" or "life force" or whatever you want to believe is moved into that dimensional space when not supported by your body.

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I'm not so sure.

If you were highly advanced lifeforms, wouldn't you seek out the leaders or the strongest nations? If they were advanced, like we were, then I think you're right. But I don't think a civilization at our point would find other planets with lifeforms. I think that if a species is as developed as it takes to find lifeforms on other planets then you'd be advanced enough to find the strongest / smartest nations.

That would be like seeking out the king of the rat colony.   I think they'd be advanced enough to avoid everyone down here, and treat the earth like a zoo.  

There's no reason for them to contact us.  We have nothing to offer them.

I think that's why we only see them occasionally, when one of them gets careless and gets spotted.  Then they haul [BLEEP] out of here, because they don't want anything to do with us.

Unless, despite their advanced civilization, we’re the only intelligent life they found. There’s infinite possibilities. We don’t need reasons to find lesser life forms in the ocean but we do.

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That would be like seeking out the king of the rat colony.   I think they'd be advanced enough to avoid everyone down here, and treat the earth like a zoo.  

There's no reason for them to contact us.  We have nothing to offer them.

I think that's why we only see them occasionally, when one of them gets careless and gets spotted.  Then they haul [BLEEP] out of here, because they don't want anything to do with us.

Unless, despite their advanced civilization, we’re the only intelligent life they found. There’s infinite possibilities. We don’t need reasons to find lesser life forms in the ocean but we do.

Or at Walmart in Oceanway..

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There is also the theory that has been floated that we are the most advanced firm of carbon life specifically because we are so galactically young. The theory states that older civilisations would have (possibly) depleted their own resources and gone extinct.

Basically, the thought is that life, in and of itself, is destructive. Even while trying to better ourselves, we are constantly doing just as much, or more, harm than good. And in our pursuit of galactic discovery we aren't interested in advancing or abilities to sustain life long enough to make THE discovery.

Intelligent life seems to have the innate belief that we are as advanced as we need to be to make the next step as it pertains to discovery of other intelligent life.

Keep in mind that we still do not understand a large portion of life on our own planet. And how much of that life is eons older than we are.

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