They saying only a 3-5 week recovery time so he might be removed by the March deadline.

If they had any inclination to not keep him they would not have had him have the surgery they would have cut him before having it. They have always planned on keeping him since they gave him the extension. There is no trade for smith or cousins or eli coming none of them just took their team to the SB (minus some questionable flags and atrocious scared coaching). This is their QB  and our QB, and he is a franchise QB. You want passing numbers get a new coach has nothing to do with the QB.

You can't cut him injured and not guarantee his option salary.  This surgery says nothing about what their plans are.  If it says anything, it's that they wanted it done ASAP after the loss so that potentially all options could still be on the table come March 14th which would just be smart business.  But as far as declaring what the team is going to do at QB, I don't think you can really do that with this news.

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Apparently he put off the surgery because he didn't know whether his Obamacare coverage was going to be terminated.

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Wait hes having surgery and skipping Tom House's camp this year? That really sucks for us.

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Yes, it's improvement, but it's Blaine Gabbert 2012 level improvement. - Pirkster

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Peyton must store oxygen in that forehead of his. No way I'd still be alive after all that choking.

 

BB5 duped us, lol. Touche. Good for him.

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If they had any inclination to not keep him they would not have had him have the surgery they would have cut him before having it. They have always planned on keeping him since they gave him the extension. There is no trade for smith or cousins or eli coming none of them just took their team to the SB (minus some questionable flags and atrocious scared coaching). This is their QB  and our QB, and he is a franchise QB. You want passing numbers get a new coach has nothing to do with the QB.

What extension? He hasn't gotten anything. And you mean to tell me if he played as poorly as he did in 2016 they wouldn't be moving on?

I'm ok if we bring Blake back, sign ARob and draft Andrews/Goedert but let's not act like Blake wasn't on thing ice to start 2017.

extension - picked up 5th yr option miss said appropriate wording. yes and he played his way into next year. I believe even getting Arob back, if 4net stays healthy bb5 numbers will go down next year. This is a run first then run second and pass only when needed offense. This is not going to change no matter what personell we have. There is no part of the playbook for a all out passing attack it just inst going to happen and the sooner the fans figure that out the sooner the will accept that we will not put up 4500 yards passing with any QB.

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They were attempting to keep the surgery a secret but someone recognized him ...

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The surgery has no bearing on the Jag's decision to keep Blake. The decision for surgery and the timing is ultimately the player's. Blake's decision to have the surgery is smart regardless the Jag's decision. By having it right after the season, he maximizes the time to recover before having to throw again, and removes a possible negative/concern that a suitor may have if Jags let him go.

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Apparently he put off the surgery because he didn't know whether his Obamacare coverage was going to be terminated.

Is that what passes for a joke these days?

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Apparently he put off the surgery because he didn't know whether his Obamacare coverage was going to be terminated.

Is that what passes for a joke these days?

For real, he could afford COBRA.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

The surgery has no bearing on the Jag's decision to keep Blake.  The decision for surgery and the timing is ultimately the player's.  Blake's decision to have the surgery is smart regardless the Jag's decision.  By having it right after the season, he maximizes the time to recover before having to throw again, and removes a possible negative/concern that a suitor may have if Jags let him go.

No bearing

 If Blake still can't throw six weeks from now because he's still healing up from injury, then it may just mean they can't cut up which gives this all sorts of bearing.

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The surgery has no bearing on the Jag's decision to keep Blake.  The decision for surgery and the timing is ultimately the player's.  Blake's decision to have the surgery is smart regardless the Jag's decision.  By having it right after the season, he maximizes the time to recover before having to throw again, and removes a possible negative/concern that a suitor may have if Jags let him go.

No bearing

 If Blake still can't throw six weeks from now because he's still healing up from injury, then it may just mean they can't cut up which gives this all sorts of bearing.

Admittedly I never thought Blake was the sharpest tool in the shed, but this move makes me think he is more clever than I gave him credit for.

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Yes, it's improvement, but it's Blaine Gabbert 2012 level improvement. - Pirkster

http://youtu.be/ouGM3NWpjxk The Home Hypnotist!

http://youtu.be/XQRFkn0Ly3A Media on the Brain Link!
 

Peyton must store oxygen in that forehead of his. No way I'd still be alive after all that choking.

 

What extension? He hasn't gotten anything. And you mean to tell me if he played as poorly as he did in 2016 they wouldn't be moving on?

I'm ok if we bring Blake back, sign ARob and draft Andrews/Goedert but let's not act like Blake wasn't on thing ice to start 2017.

extension - picked up 5th yr option miss said appropriate wording. yes and he played his way into next year. I believe even getting Arob back, if 4net stays healthy bb5 numbers will go down next year. This is a run first then run second and pass only when needed offense. This is not going to change no matter what personell we have. There is no part of the playbook for a all out passing attack it just inst going to happen and the sooner the fans figure that out the sooner the will accept that we will not put up 4500 yards passing with any QB.

I keep seeing some version of this posted about the board.  It's just not true. 

The 2017 Jaguars may have featured the most balanced offense in quite some time. 

527 pass attempts   (~3600 yds)
527 rushing attempts  (~2300 yds)

Where the hell is this run first, run second, pass when desperate crap coming from? 
Hackett called a quarter or a half that way here and there throughout the season but not complete games - and he was very balanced on the whole.

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He's a tough kid. Despite all of his ups and downs as a starter that kid has consistently toughed it out. He's durable. You either have that or you don't. I am personally glad he's coming back for at least another year. I think it's the right thing to do by him and it's the right thing for this team right now. He did a lot last year and he was out of his comfort zone if you really look at the receiving core he had to work with.

I think this team is back in the play-off hunt and discussion in nine months from now. Another full off season with Marrone and Hackett. Another off season to add more free agents and a draft to bolster some key spots on the team. I like our chances. 2018 will be an even better year when we win 10 - 12 games since the competition at least on paper looks brutal between the AFC and NFC East.

They'll still bring in another QB though. It'll end up being a guy that's better than Henne. That's for sure. And he'll end up being a guy that could potentially CHALLENGE him for his job. Competition is the best thing for a young team. And having a young gun behind him on the depth chart should make him even better.

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extension - picked up 5th yr option miss said appropriate wording. yes and he played his way into next year. I believe even getting Arob back, if 4net stays healthy bb5 numbers will go down next year. This is a run first then run second and pass only when needed offense. This is not going to change no matter what personell we have. There is no part of the playbook for a all out passing attack it just inst going to happen and the sooner the fans figure that out the sooner the will accept that we will not put up 4500 yards passing with any QB.

I keep seeing some version of this posted about the board.  It's just not true. 

The 2017 Jaguars may have featured the most balanced offense in quite some time. 

527 pass attempts   (~3600 yds)
527 rushing attempts  (~2300 yds)

Where the hell is this run first, run second, pass when desperate crap coming from? 
Hackett called a quarter or a half that way here and there throughout the season but not complete games - and he was very balanced on the whole.

Agreed. I think when you factor in that they had no Allen Robinson. Allen Hurns oft injured. Marqise Lee trying to be the guy. Then you had Cole, Westrbook and Mickens involved as rookies. This passing game did enough. It'll get better this off season. 

I would expect to see a 55% - 60% ratio in favor of the pass attempts compared to the rush attempts too. But the yardage on the ground will be equal to last year or even better since the passing game should get that damn box unloaded and loosened up.

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I keep seeing some version of this posted about the board.  It's just not true. 

The 2017 Jaguars may have featured the most balanced offense in quite some time. 

527 pass attempts   (~3600 yds)
527 rushing attempts  (~2300 yds)

Where the hell is this run first, run second, pass when desperate crap coming from? 
Hackett called a quarter or a half that way here and there throughout the season but not complete games - and he was very balanced on the whole.

It can just feel that way because the rest of the league is more skewed toward the pass. Our 50.51% pass percent was last in the NFL.

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This thread has potential.

BB5 
Surgery ok now what

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“You may never know what results come of your actions, but if you do nothing, there will be no results.”
“If you find a way to motivate an idiot you have a motivated idiot”

extension - picked up 5th yr option miss said appropriate wording. yes and he played his way into next year. I believe even getting Arob back, if 4net stays healthy bb5 numbers will go down next year. This is a run first then run second and pass only when needed offense. This is not going to change no matter what personell we have. There is no part of the playbook for a all out passing attack it just inst going to happen and the sooner the fans figure that out the sooner the will accept that we will not put up 4500 yards passing with any QB.

I keep seeing some version of this posted about the board.  It's just not true. 

The 2017 Jaguars may have featured the most balanced offense in quite some time. 

527 pass attempts   (~3600 yds)
527 rushing attempts  (~2300 yds)

Where the hell is this run first, run second, pass when desperate crap coming from? 
Hackett called a quarter or a half that way here and there throughout the season but not complete games - and he was very balanced on the whole.

THANK YOU.....I'm so tired of reading this rhetoric that some are spewing without any type of factual basis.

There were three or four games that the group that I watch the games with stated something about his wrist....and joked that maybe "the shot" wasn't working today.....guess we were on to something. Especially the Bills playoff game....everyone was stating that it was nerves....but I know I felt like there was something wrong with his hand/wrist/arm....he was pushing the ball out instead of throwing it...

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If this team wins a Super Bowl in the next two years or so, it will be because of the defense, not the quarterback. That's why I'm inclined to keep Bortles. I still think he's progressing, and we can keep him at a price that won't force us to part with guys like Jack, Ngakoue, Fowler and Ramsey.

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Nothing to worry about. Blake said his wrist is "100 percent."

And needing surgery 


Oh the bb5 season long paw injury needing surgery lol 100%
Is this new bb5 surgery thread. that’s being talked about in the bb5 surgery thread a  composite to the bb5 injury thread

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“You may never know what results come of your actions, but if you do nothing, there will be no results.”
“If you find a way to motivate an idiot you have a motivated idiot”

Is this surgery thread a composite of the bb5 injury thread

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“You may never know what results come of your actions, but if you do nothing, there will be no results.”
“If you find a way to motivate an idiot you have a motivated idiot”

This thread has potential.

BB5 
Surgery ok now what

It looks like this injury could potentially "seal the deal" as you speculated when you started the thread months ago. 

The Jags, however, have been aware of the injury since December of 2016 when Blake elected to not have the surgery and press on.  So - when they picked up his option in May of 2017, they certainly knew about the injury and it's potential to affect the option guarantee.

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