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Lamar Jackson making questionable decisions

#1

I just got done reading an article on NFL.com that said Lamar Jackson held his pro day workout today and refused to run the 40 or participate in any other testing for NFL scouts. All he will do, is participate in position drills. On top of that, Mike Mayock is reporting that several teams are having a hard time setting up meetings with Jackson. This really perplexes me. Wouldn't he want to set up as many meetings as possible to improve his chances of getting drafted higher? The article says he is being represented by his mother. It looks like she has no clue what she is doing. In any case, this isn't setting well for some NFL teams. Either he is getting very bad advice from his mother or this may be some kind of "diva type" behavior.
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#2

What would worry me worse if I were him, was how he performed at what he did do. It doesn't sound like he did anything but reinforce accuracy concerns.

Maybe he tried to bulk up for the pro day like Bridgewater did to address frame/size concerns. That could have been a reason he didn't want to be timed. Who knows.

In the end, those truly interested are mostly looking at the tape, which isn't new.
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#3
(This post was last modified: 03-29-2018, 02:04 PM by knarnn.)

He decided to not go with an agent. Not a great decision for a rookie trying to break into the league but one that he'll have to learn to live with. Hopefully he falls to 29.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/201...t-himself/
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(03-29-2018, 02:00 PM)knarnn Wrote: He decided to not go with an agent. Not a great decision for a rookie trying to break into the league but one that he'll have to learn to live with. Hopefully he falls to 29.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/201...t-himself/

No way. I want no part of him, even if Rudolph is off the board.
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#5

Anyone notice, Lamar talks funny.
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#6

Trying to keep all the money in the family
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#7

(03-29-2018, 02:00 PM)knarnn Wrote: He decided to not go with an agent. Not a great decision for a rookie trying to break into the league but one that he'll have to learn to live with. Hopefully he falls to past 29.

Fixed.
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https://twitter.com/nfl/status/979406795008483328
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(03-29-2018, 01:59 PM)pirkster Wrote: What would worry me worse if I were him, was how he performed at what he did do.  It doesn't sound like he did anything but reinforce accuracy concerns.

Maybe he tried to bulk up for the pro day like Bridgewater did to address frame/size concerns.  That could have been a reason he didn't want to be timed.  Who knows.

In the end, those truly interested are mostly looking at the tape, which isn't new.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/201...yard-dash/

Is there any doubt he’s the fastest QB in this class? Or that he’s not elusive? What exactly would be the point?
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#10

NFL.com panel discusses:

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-pa...-s-pro-day

These clips show just how bad the misses were. I was hoping he'd show better. He needed to show better.
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#11

He decided not to run because he wanted to prove the point that he is a QB. Misguided perhaps but that's why he hasn't run.

Decided not to get an agent is a really bad idea for the simple reason that the draft cycle is a brutal process that requires you to tick hundreds of boxes for teams along the way. Agents organise all of that ,portray you well in the media and set you up with teams. The less boxes you tick the harder it is to be drafted high. Given Lamar already had questions (whether valid or not) it makes no sense that he'd go this route.


Look at Josh Allen this draft season. He signed with a big agency and has done tremendous in all the pre draft stuff and cemented him as a first round guy.
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#12

(03-29-2018, 02:30 PM)pirkster Wrote: NFL.com panel discusses:

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-pa...-s-pro-day

These clips show just how bad the misses were.  I was hoping he'd show better.  He needed to show better.
I guess it just depends on which side of the coin you are on.


https://ftw.usatoday.com/2018/03/nfl-dra...le-pro-day
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#13

The decision not to hire an agent is definitely questionable...that's all I would nitpick.
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(03-29-2018, 01:49 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: I just got done reading an article on NFL.com that said Lamar Jackson held his pro day workout today and refused to run the 40 or participate in any other testing for NFL scouts. All he will do, is participate in position drills. On top of that, Mike Mayock is reporting that several teams are having a hard time setting up meetings with Jackson. This really perplexes me. Wouldn't he want to set up as many meetings as possible to improve his chances of getting drafted higher? The article says he is being represented by his mother. It looks like she has no clue what she is doing. In any case, this isn't setting well for some NFL teams. Either he is getting very bad advice from his mother or this may be some kind of "diva type" behavior.

(03-29-2018, 01:59 PM)pirkster Wrote: What would worry me worse if I were him, was how he performed at what he did do. It doesn't sound like he did anything but reinforce accuracy concerns.

Maybe he tried to bulk up for the pro day like Bridgewater did to address frame/size concerns. That could have been a reason he didn't want to be timed. Who knows.

In the end, those truly interested are mostly looking at the tape, which isn't new.

It is not uncommon for players at their pro day to stand on their performance at the combine if they deem it sufficient in a given area.

Nothing new would have been gleaned from him running the 40 again.

As for difficulty setting up a meeting with him, that could be attributable to any number of things-some his fault, some not.

To me, the overarching concern is accuracy. To the extent accuracy can be remedied by coaching proper footwork, he may improve. How much and how soon are the questions.
 

Worst to 1st.  Curse Reversed!





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(03-29-2018, 02:36 PM)knarnn Wrote:
(03-29-2018, 02:30 PM)pirkster Wrote: NFL.com panel discusses:

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-pa...-s-pro-day

These clips show just how bad the misses were.  I was hoping he'd show better.  He needed to show better.
I guess it just depends on which side of the coin you are on.


https://ftw.usatoday.com/2018/03/nfl-dra...le-pro-day

Facts don't have sides, and facts certainly don't care about your feelings.
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(03-29-2018, 03:15 PM)pirkster Wrote:
(03-29-2018, 02:36 PM)knarnn Wrote: I guess it just depends on which side of the coin you are on.


https://ftw.usatoday.com/2018/03/nfl-dra...le-pro-day

Facts don't have sides, and facts certainly don't care about your feelings.

It happens more often than you think.

https://mobile.twitter.com/chrisfedor/st...7323123713
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#17

He didn't run because he wants to be a QB. He doesn't want any team taking him with the thought of switching his position.
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(03-29-2018, 03:24 PM)knarnn Wrote:
(03-29-2018, 03:15 PM)pirkster Wrote: Facts don't have sides, and facts certainly don't care about your feelings.

It happens more often than you think.

https://mobile.twitter.com/chrisfedor/st...7323123713

I dont think GMs really care what Kiper thinks, just a guess
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(03-29-2018, 03:38 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:
(03-29-2018, 03:24 PM)knarnn Wrote: It happens more often than you think.

https://mobile.twitter.com/chrisfedor/st...7323123713

I dont think GMs really care what Kiper thinks, just a guess

Agreed that’s why it’s best to stick to facts.

Stats only.

(Comp %) - 56.3 (Pass.Yards)- 1812 (Pass.TDs) - 16 - Allen

(Comp %) - 59.1(Pass.Yards) - 3660 (Pass.TDs) - 27 - Jackson
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#20

(03-29-2018, 03:24 PM)knarnn Wrote:
(03-29-2018, 03:15 PM)pirkster Wrote: Facts don't have sides, and facts certainly don't care about your feelings.

It happens more often than you think.

https://mobile.twitter.com/chrisfedor/st...7323123713

More reason not to worry about what Mel Kiper has to say.

I was hoping he'd have a better day.  Hard to be excited about his pro day whether you're rooting for him or not.

I wouldn't mind him here, but he didn't do much to help himself on several fronts.

It's a situation where he's pretty much left it all to the tape.

He may not have hurt himself, but I can't point to anything that surprised or helped him further his cause from today.  For skeptics, there was nothing there that would convince them to reconsider.

I think he could bring a dynamic that's atypical, but I don't think that fits what Coughlin wants in a QB or offense.

Who knows, maybe he is open to that after seeing what Watson was able to accomplish last season.
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