The Sporting News just leaked some Wonderlic scores and this might explain a lot. Jackson reportedly only scored a 13. That's terrible for a QB. Here are how some other QB's scored.

Josh Allen, 37

Josh Rosen, 29

Sam Darnold, 28

Baker Mayfield, 25

Lamar Jackson, 13


Either Rudolph didn't take one or he's being left out of the "top 5 " QB prospects list. I wanna know what he scored.

Meh. Dan Marino walked out of his and was pegged with a score of 16. He's a hall of famer. Ryan Fitzpatrick and Greg McElroy tied for the highest scores ever at the QB position with a score of 48 and they're both garbage in the NFL. Here's some more. 

Jason Maas? Who's that? 43. 
Blaine Gabbert? Trash. 42.
Drew Henson? Trash. 42. 
Ryan Nassib? Trash. 41.

It's a big mixed bag honestly. Wentz and Smith are at 40. Eli Manning had a 39. Stafford and Kaepernick had a 38. McNabb and Garrard scored 14's. Both of those guys had decent careers in the NFL. Garrard's career was hindered due to terrible decisions by the front office personnel at the time. Bradshaw and McNair scored 15's. So did Jim Kelly and Randall Cunningham.

And to be honest. If the man can throw it, read and understand the X's and O's or breakdown film. I don't really give a [BLEEP] about what a random test says. Especially when it has questions that aren't related to football at all. It's kind of insulting when you think you can gauge an athlete's "thinking" ability with a 12:00 minute, 50 questions test after they've made plays on the football field or have managed to earn and maintain a GPA at the college level...

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Between Kiper and this “leak”, it appears someone is trying to pump up Allen’s draft stock......

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Lamar Jackson is making more and more sense to me at 29. Unless someone surprisingly fell, along the lines of a Derwin James level prospect....I'd be pretty pumped with Jackson.

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Coughlin when asked if winning will be a focus: "What the hell else is there? This is nice and dandy, but winning is what all this is about."

Between Kiper and this “leak”, it appears someone is trying to pump up Allen’s draft stock......

Allen had a high wonderlic score, but he lacks the ability to be consistent and he makes bad decisions. I still don't believe there is any way he goes ahead of Darnold, Rosen or Mayfield.

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Lol at all you all banging 2 fists on the table for Caldwell to draft Lamar Jackson at 29. Look at the past drafts, 2nd tier, 3rd tier qbs get pushed up the draft boards because GMs get desperate looking for their savior. Lamar Jackson wont get pass the 15th pick. Stop with the Lamar Jackson that he's so special because he isn't coming here.

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Lol at all you all banging 2 fists on the table for Caldwell to draft Lamar Jackson at 29. Look at the past drafts, 2nd tier, 3rd tier qbs get pushed up the draft boards because GMs  get desperate looking for their savior. Lamar Jackson wont get pass the 15th pick.  Stop with the Lamar Jackson that he's so special because he isn't coming here.

I don't think he's a first round pick.   I think he'll be picked in the second round.

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Lol at all you all banging 2 fists on the table for Caldwell to draft Lamar Jackson at 29. Look at the past drafts, 2nd tier, 3rd tier qbs get pushed up the draft boards because GMs  get desperate looking for their savior. Lamar Jackson wont get pass the 15th pick.  Stop with the Lamar Jackson that he's so special because he isn't coming here.

I don't think he's a first round pick.   I think he'll be picked in the second round.

Agreed. If I didn't believe that a week ago, (which I did), I'd certainly have to believe that now. This has not been a good week for Jackson. It also would not surprise me in the least, to see up to two QB's go ahead of him that the so called, "experts" aren't projecting, i.e. Rudolph, Falk, White, Litton or Lauletta.

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IF Mayock’s information about “difficulty setting up meetings” is genuine, I think it says more about the teams than it does about Jackson.

Even if his agent were his great-grandmother, it surely can’t be impossible in today’s world to contact a well known person like Jackson and set something up. He’d have to be sitting in a concrete bunker miles underneath the surface of Antarctica to be truly uncontactable.

Maybe a few GMs have had their egos hurt because he didn’t get back to them as soon as they wanted?

And OK, that might hurt his chances of getting drafted by those teams, but I think it would be a surprise at this stage if he wasn’t a first round pick.

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IF Mayock’s information about “difficulty setting up meetings” is genuine, I think it says more about the teams than it does about Jackson.

Even if his agent were his great-grandmother, it surely can’t be impossible in today’s world to contact a well known person like Jackson and set something up. He’d have to be sitting in a concrete bunker miles underneath the surface of Antarctica to be truly uncontactable.

Maybe a few GMs have had their egos hurt because he didn’t get back to them as soon as they wanted?

And OK, that might hurt his chances of getting drafted by those teams, but I think it would be a surprise at this stage if he wasn’t a first round pick.

I don't think that's the reason he won't be picked in the first round.   The reason he won't be picked in the first round is, while he is a spectacular runner, as a pocket passer he's not so great.   He's not real accurate, his mechanics are bad, and sometimes he doesn't read the field well.   Every analyst I've read says, he's a project.   I've seen way too many projects flame out to take one with a first round pick. 

Of course, it only takes one team, and if so, he will get picked in the first round.  I just doubt it, and I sure wouldn't pick him before the second or even the third round.

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I don't think he's a first round pick.   I think he'll be picked in the second round.

Agreed. If I didn't believe that a week ago, (which I did), I'd certainly have to believe that now. This has not been a good week for Jackson. It also would not surprise me in the least, to see up to two QB's go ahead of him that the so called, "experts" aren't projecting, i.e. Rudolph, Falk, White, Litton or Lauletta.

Rudolph is the only who has a chance.  The others are trash.

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"You do your own thing in your own time. You should be proud."

IF Mayock’s information about “difficulty setting up meetings” is genuine, I think it says more about the teams than it does about Jackson.

Even if his agent were his great-grandmother, it surely can’t be impossible in today’s world to contact a well known person like Jackson and set something up. He’d have to be sitting in a concrete bunker miles underneath the surface of Antarctica to be truly uncontactable.

Maybe a few GMs have had their egos hurt because he didn’t get back to them as soon as they wanted?

And OK, that might hurt his chances of getting drafted by those teams, but I think it would be a surprise at this stage if he wasn’t a first round pick.

I don't think that's the reason he won't be picked in the first round.   The reason he won't be picked in the first round is, while he is a spectacular runner, as a pocket passer he's not so great.   He's not real accurate, his mechanics are bad, and sometimes he doesn't read the field well.   Every analyst I've read says, he's a project.   I've seen way too many projects flame out to take one with a first round pick. 

Of course, it only takes one team, and if so, he will get picked in the first round.  I just doubt it, and I sure wouldn't pick him before the second or even the third round.

He's definitely a project but his upside is through the roof, higher than any other QB prospect.

It'll take a year or two before he's ready but a team like Jacksonville is primed for it.

He could go anywhere from early/mid 1 to probably mid round 2, so if he did get selected at 29, depending on how the jags have him rated, would likely be very good value.

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Coughlin when asked if winning will be a focus: "What the hell else is there? This is nice and dandy, but winning is what all this is about."

I don't think that's the reason he won't be picked in the first round.   The reason he won't be picked in the first round is, while he is a spectacular runner, as a pocket passer he's not so great.   He's not real accurate, his mechanics are bad, and sometimes he doesn't read the field well.   Every analyst I've read says, he's a project.   I've seen way too many projects flame out to take one with a first round pick. 

Of course, it only takes one team, and if so, he will get picked in the first round.  I just doubt it, and I sure wouldn't pick him before the second or even the third round.

He's definitely a project but his upside is through the roof, higher than any other QB prospect.

It'll take a year or two before he's ready but a team like Jacksonville is primed for it.

He could go anywhere from early/mid 1 to probably mid round 2, so if he did get selected at 29, depending on how the jags have him rated, would likely be very good value.

I agree.  It's likely that Darnold, Rosen, Mayfield, Allen, Rudolph, and Jackson will be day 1, day 2 prospects.  The only question to me is whether or not they find him a fit with what they want at QB.

The remainder are day 3 caliber prospects, guys who really don't have a realistic chance of developing into a quality starting caliber NFL QB.

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"You do your own thing in your own time. You should be proud."

Garrard scored a 14

https://footballiqscore.com/wonderlic-sc...id-garrard

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Garrard scored a 14

https://footballiqscore.com/wonderlic-sc...id-garrard

It was reflected in his play and slow decision making as well.  I can't stand hearing him on the radio.  He mentally stutters through nearly every sentence.  As rough as an engine that's lost a cylinder.

However, as Dan Marino proved, Wonderlic score doesn't always reflect on the field.

Same for high Wonderlics.  It's not something that directly translates into football play.  It's as if high Wonderlic has the ability to tie up a QB mentally in some cases.

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"You do your own thing in your own time. You should be proud."

He's definitely a project but his upside is through the roof, higher than any other QB prospect.

It'll take a year or two before he's ready but a team like Jacksonville is primed for it.

He could go anywhere from early/mid 1 to probably mid round 2, so if he did get selected at 29, depending on how the jags have him rated, would likely be very good value.

I agree.  It's likely that Darnold, Rosen, Mayfield, Allen, Rudolph, and Jackson will be day 1, day 2 prospects.  The only question to me is whether or not they find him a fit with what they want at QB.

The remainder are day 3 caliber prospects, guys who really don't have a realistic chance of developing into a quality starting caliber NFL QB.

Right, the team fit is the only variable on him that kinda separates Jackson from the other prospects. He's not the kind of QB that can just play in any system. 

One way or another it should be fun to watch how his career pans out whether it's with the jags or not. It almost seems like people are hoping he fails for some reason. Seems like a decent dude, hope he has a good career.

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Coughlin when asked if winning will be a focus: "What the hell else is there? This is nice and dandy, but winning is what all this is about."

I just got done reading an article on NFL.com that said Lamar Jackson held his pro day workout today and refused to run the 40 or participate in any other testing for NFL scouts. All he will do, is participate in position drills. On top of that, Mike Mayock is reporting that several teams are having a hard time setting up meetings with Jackson. This really perplexes me. Wouldn't he want to set up as many meetings as possible to improve his chances of getting drafted higher? The article says he is being represented by his mother. It looks like she has no clue what she is doing. In any case, this isn't setting well for some NFL teams. Either he is getting very bad advice from his mother or this may be some kind of "diva type" behavior.

A smart move by Lamar Jackson. Leave them guessing what the forty speed is. Also, having his mom work as his manager might not be a bad thing at all. I recall Jimmy Smith was pretty much deserted by the agent(s), and his mom home-cooked up a PR pitch that knocked the socks off Jaguars' WR coach, Pete Carmichael. Jimmy's mom sent Pete a scrap book of newspaper clippings pertaining to Smith's career. Both Pete and HC Tom Coughlin were very impressed. Good thing Jimmy's mom did.

As for an agent not being in the mix, Lamar is his own agent. He believes rookie contracts are basically slotted by pick order. Lamar stated he doesn't want to give an agent "all my money". What a smart kid.

As for Lamar, the tosser of footballs....not the best pro day, but I came away much more impressed by Jackson as a person. He is who he is. He's not a fake. His interview with Mike Mayock showed a side of Lamar I had not seen before. Totally candid. Totally honest about himself. Remarkably respectful to Mike.

Jackson looked comfortable under center. Smart idea to have a snapper on the field. I did not see much of his footwork. I was examining his eyes and how well and alert his vision is. I figure there are enough foot work experts watching, plus the NFL Network cropped the shot a little high here and there. I did notice he fell back into a three step drop like in the blink of an eye. Wow.

I disagree with some of the scouting reports expressing concern that Lamar Jackson stature compares to Robert Griffin III. While Lamar is a bit of a stretch, his bone structure is NOT like RGIII's, particularly around the ankles. Lamar actually has pretty good bone density to my eyes. I'll bet he was a real good milk drinker growing up. As he continues to mature into manhood he has all the right places for additional girth so weight should not be a problem, but more of an aid.

Lamar showed a real weakness with all throws to his right. This was a glaring thing. Bucky Brooks noted it also. To his left, the balls were superbly thrown spirals, with a nice touch. He did NOT demonstrate the ability to make deep throws scrambling out of the pocket - on the move. All throws from a mobile platform were short to ten yards.

The question for a GM is this, how much time has Lamar Jackson spent with a QB tutor? A really good QB guru guy would NOT accept the inability to throw to his right on his pro day. He will have to work hard to get those throws corrected. 

Lamar Jackson never had to win me over. I know he has the type of talent to make it as a starting QB in the NFL, but the term is unclear. I do not consider him a franchise prospect. He needs to learn a pro system and lacks the persona to drive wholesale changes to a coaching staff. He easily shows the proper attitude for hard work. He will learn the large amount of devotion to the j-o-b a NFL starter must have.

I don't like kicking QBs up the draft board because they are QBs. While other prospects are nestled in the top three to five, Jackson is on the fringe of round one, with a likelihood he may be a solid second round pick.  If tomorrow the high and mighty QBs were appropriately placed in the round two range where their talents place them, this would not drive Jackson lower. Since the system won't correct over-valuing Darnold, Rosen, Allen, Mayfield etc. Lamar Jackson should be bumped up in the same area.

He put up BETTER college numbers than Michael Vick did.

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Garrard scored a 14

https://footballiqscore.com/wonderlic-sc...id-garrard

I don't know if you've ever seen any of the segments that Garrard does with one of the local news crews here in Jax, but if you did, that number is no shock. 

He's a very likeable and personable sort... but... just not very bright.

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Garrard scored a 14

https://footballiqscore.com/wonderlic-sc...id-garrard

I don't know if you've ever seen any of the segments that Garrard does with one of the local news crews here in Jax, but if you did, that number is no shock. 

He's a very likeable and personable sort... but... just not very bright.

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I don't think that's the reason he won't be picked in the first round.   The reason he won't be picked in the first round is, while he is a spectacular runner, as a pocket passer he's not so great.   He's not real accurate, his mechanics are bad, and sometimes he doesn't read the field well.   Every analyst I've read says, he's a project.   I've seen way too many projects flame out to take one with a first round pick. 

Of course, it only takes one team, and if so, he will get picked in the first round.  I just doubt it, and I sure wouldn't pick him before the second or even the third round.

He's definitely a project but his upside is through the roof, higher than any other QB prospect.

It'll take a year or two before he's ready but a team like Jacksonville is primed for it.

He could go anywhere from early/mid 1 to probably mid round 2, so if he did get selected at 29, depending on how the jags have him rated, would likely be very good value.

What makes you think "his upside is through the roof, higher than any other QB prospect?"   What is the evidence of that?

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He's definitely a project but his upside is through the roof, higher than any other QB prospect.

It'll take a year or two before he's ready but a team like Jacksonville is primed for it.

He could go anywhere from early/mid 1 to probably mid round 2, so if he did get selected at 29, depending on how the jags have him rated, would likely be very good value.

What makes you think "his upside is through the roof, higher than any other QB prospect?"   What is the evidence of that?

The evidence of that? Heisman trophy winning season wasn't even as good as last season, he has a great arm, and he is easily the most elusive QB in the draft. 

He's more physically gifted than any other QB, and he has a pretty impressive college resume. 

That would be the evidence...

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Coughlin when asked if winning will be a focus: "What the hell else is there? This is nice and dandy, but winning is what all this is about."