Just watched Louisville v. NC State 

Have to say my regard for Lamar Jackson has been disrupted by his actual game play.

His arm should be a question. He was inaccurate on most all deep throws. They lacked timing above a lack of touch. NC State has a pretty good pass rush. They might be representative of a NFL caliber defense which is why I selected this game at Draft Breakdown. 

Time after time Jackson was inaccurate with throws. He did show some kind of special talent running, but failed to impress me with his arm. He failed to impress me with leadership and as one with a grasp of the quarterback position. 

I saw a quarterback start a play, pause, then along with the entire offense look to the sideline for direction. It strongly appears that he is given a single target to throw to or run. His inconstancy as a quarterback showed. He lacked poise too often to suggest he is any kind of solid game prep disciple.  

As much as I like the person Lamar Jackson is as I saw at his Pro Day, after catching some video of his college play I don't give Jackson much edge in any facet of quarterback play above maybe a fifth to seventh round grade. 

That said....I want NC State LB Germaine Pratt to become a Jaguar. 

At 8:28 of the video of Louisville v. NC State, NC State LB #3  breaks off a assignment where he was covering the QB's left flat area in zone to chase down a Louisville pass receiver from behind.

https://youtu.be/26whkxUxftU

"Based on one YouTube cutup of Lamar Jackson playing, which clearly I haven't watched him prior to this at all, I say he's a 5th to 7th rounder."

Lolololololol

That video is significant.  NC State has four draftable DL. Get to know who they are before critically commenting. They were a walloping bunch this year.  OK, but why bother with extensive research? There is enough inside this one to show me everything I need to know. I don't want to watch average Lamar Jackson video. I want to see his play against a defense fairly representative of NFL play.

I would venture that 60 to 70% of his play is the result of a constant state of crisis. Based upon how quickly Jackson takes off down field, I'd say he lacks field vision necessary to be a great quarterback. A running quarterback in the NFL isn't a strength, it's a perceived weakness. Teams pay running backs to carry the football down the field. Teams pay quarterbacks to throw footballs into tight spaces, to throw footballs deep down the field. Teams pay receivers to run under and catch the football in stride so they can continue to dash without stopping. 

Do you want me to watch Lamar Jackson versus somebody else? Why not suggest one? I'm not a true scouting expert, but I will most likely see plenty to pick him apart.

The goal of Jaguars' isn't to make sure Lamar Jackson gets drafted.

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Allen will be the biggest bust of the top QBs drafted this year.

His is the most inaccurate QB in this group and he played against the worst competition.

Agreed.

I'd lake Lamar Jackon over Josh Allen without hesitation.

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Allen will be the biggest bust of the top QBs drafted this year.

His is the most inaccurate QB in this group and he played against the worst competition.

Agreed.

I'd lake Lamar Jackon over Josh Allen without hesitation.

Yea I'm not even a huge LJax guy, but I would as well. Its more that I think Allen is a disaster than love Lamar

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Watch some of y'all be very disappointed when the Jaguars pass on Lamar Jackson if he was to fall to the 29th pick. I guess some of y'all are still in the anybody but Blake crowd but the brass made their decision and we have no choice but to respect it.

Textbook.

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Just watched Louisville v. NC State 

Have to say my regard for Lamar Jackson has been disrupted by his actual game play.

His arm should be a question. He was inaccurate on most all deep throws. They lacked timing above a lack of touch. NC State has a pretty good pass rush. They might be representative of a NFL caliber defense which is why I selected this game at Draft Breakdown. 

Time after time Jackson was inaccurate with throws. He did show some kind of special talent running, but failed to impress me with his arm. He failed to impress me with leadership and as one with a grasp of the quarterback position. 

I saw a quarterback start a play, pause, then along with the entire offense look to the sideline for direction. It strongly appears that he is given a single target to throw to or run. His inconstancy as a quarterback showed. He lacked poise too often to suggest he is any kind of solid game prep disciple.  

As much as I like the person Lamar Jackson is as I saw at his Pro Day, after catching some video of his college play I don't give Jackson much edge in any facet of quarterback play above maybe a fifth to seventh round grade. 

That said....I want NC State LB Germaine Pratt to become a Jaguar. 

At 8:28 of the video of Louisville v. NC State, NC State LB #3  breaks off a assignment where he was covering the QB's left flat area in zone to chase down a Louisville pass receiver from behind.

https://youtu.be/26whkxUxftU

And he's still better than McCarron.

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"Before you criticize a man, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, if he gets angry, he's a mile away and barefoot."

I found a nice breakdown of LJackson and Allen. Interesting that he paired these, since they have been the topic of many discussions here.

https://twitter.com/MattWaldman/status/9...7578973184

It's a little lengthy, but good.

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"You do your own thing in your own time. You should be proud."

I found a nice breakdown of LJackson and Allen.  Interesting that he paired these, since they have been the topic of many discussions here.

https://twitter.com/MattWaldman/status/9...7578973184

It's a little lengthy, but good.

I so agree with this, and moreover feel that it really doesn't take long to realize watching film of the two that the game is slowed down for Lamar Jackson whereas Josh Allen often looks overwhelmed.  I'm starting to lean back toward the Jackson over Rudolph bandwagon, but that's still up in the air for me. I just know I wouldn't draft Allen; the game is too fast for him. 

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Josh Allen is basically a bigger version of Blaine Gabbert with a slightly stronger arm but a slower release.

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When put into perspective that Allen has started only two years, it suggests to me his issues are coachable. Everything in the video is decision making and coachable.

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"You do your own thing in your own time. You should be proud."

When put into perspective that Allen has started only two years, it suggests to me his issues are coachable.  Everything in the video is decision making and coachable.

Any team that has the luxury of sitting a rookie QB for a year or two has to do their homework on Allen. 

If he's able to be dialed in, he'll be really good.

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I found a nice breakdown of LJackson and Allen.  Interesting that he paired these, since they have been the topic of many discussions here.

https://twitter.com/MattWaldman/status/9...7578973184

It's a little lengthy, but good.

I so agree with this, and moreover feel that it really doesn't take long to realize watching film of the two that the game is slowed down for Lamar Jackson whereas Josh Allen often looks overwhelmed.  I'm starting to lean back toward the Jackson over Rudolph bandwagon, but that's still up in the air for me. I just know I wouldn't draft Allen; the game is too fast for him. 

I've read a lot of info basically recounting that Lamar Jackson wasn't even getting real coaching until he was in college. He has a ton of room to grow mentally in terms of preparation for the game, how to maximize being in the film room, etc....

If a team gets this guy and lets him learn slowly, I think he's going to be really fun to watch. The Mike vick 2.0 comparisons are fair, but Jackson is a better passer.

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Coughlin when asked if winning will be a focus: "What the hell else is there? This is nice and dandy, but winning is what all this is about."

Here is a nice study on most of the QB's in the draft:

Contextualized Quarterbacking

A lot of factual information provided that disproves a lot of the stuff you hear about Jackson (if he can't hit the first read then he bails, not an accurate thrower, plays in an easy offense, etc)

If anyone reads that and still believes that Lamar Jackson isn't a good QB then there is no convincing you otherwise.

Rosen is probably the clear cut #1
And I'd put Mayfield and Jackson as a toss up as the #2 QB.

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Here is a nice study on most of the QB's in the draft:

Contextualized Quarterbacking

A lot of factual information provided that disproves a lot of the stuff you hear about Jackson (if he can't hit the first read then he bails, not an accurate thrower, plays in an easy offense, etc)

If anyone reads that and still believes that Lamar Jackson isn't a good QB then there is no convincing you otherwise.

Rosen is probably the clear cut #1
And I'd put Mayfield and Jackson as a toss up as the #2 QB.

Jackson isn't even covered in this...?

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Here is a nice study on most of the QB's in the draft:

Contextualized Quarterbacking

A lot of factual information provided that disproves a lot of the stuff you hear about Jackson (if he can't hit the first read then he bails, not an accurate thrower, plays in an easy offense, etc)

If anyone reads that and still believes that Lamar Jackson isn't a good QB then there is no convincing you otherwise.

Rosen is probably the clear cut #1
And I'd put Mayfield and Jackson as a toss up as the #2 QB.

Jackson isn't even covered in this...?

https://www.ndtscouting.com/solak-now-av...ssion=true

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Here is a nice study on most of the QB's in the draft:

Contextualized Quarterbacking

A lot of factual information provided that disproves a lot of the stuff you hear about Jackson (if he can't hit the first read then he bails, not an accurate thrower, plays in an easy offense, etc)

If anyone reads that and still believes that Lamar Jackson isn't a good QB then there is no convincing you otherwise.

Rosen is probably the clear cut #1
And I'd put Mayfield and Jackson as a toss up as the #2 QB.

Jackson isn't even covered in this...?

Sorry about that.  Updated my link with the correct pdf.

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Jackson isn't even covered in this...?

Sorry about that.  Updated my link with the correct pdf.

Thanks!

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Hmm, this was interesting:

"Jackson is pure lightning in a QB bottle. Lamar, like many naturally gifted
passers before him, tends to stray too far away from his mechanics,
which leads to some ugly misses. But when categorizing a huge miss and
a regular miss the same (uncatchable; poorly placed), we discover a key
truth underneath our subconscious corrections and biases: Lamar is an
accurate quarterback. His catchable numbers aren’t amazing, no—but his
placement numbers are. When he throws, he is acutely aware of where
the ball belongs relative to coverage. A sub-4% INTable number speaks to
this, as does the data into tight windows and beyond his first read. Lamar
has more playmaking ability than any quarterback in this class by leaps
and bounds, due in large part to his legs—but don’t miss it: this is an
adept college thrower who can run multiple styles of offense, hit every
throw, and is worthy of the #1 overall selection in any class."

I don't pretend to be an expert, but Jackson had some huge misses in cutups. If the above turns out to be true, though, I'd be ecstatic to get him late in round 1 if he's there.

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