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Kiper Mock Draft

#41

Quote:Of course there's a way.  I don't think the #3 QB on your board going #1 overall is that farfetched.

If you rank your #1,2,and #3 QBs close - and find that the #1 team may like the #3 quarterback the most, of course it's possible he will go #1 overall. 

 

This many people mocking different things at #1 overall indicates that there may not be a clear-cut #1 guy this year.  Similar to last year.  There just are no Andrew Lucks this year.

 

It makes the "Tanking for Teddy" seem a little more silly day by day.  I admit I wanted us to have the #1 pick overall, but I can't be mad at my team for improving and winning some games this year.  I'm glad we're not like the Vikings.
Andrew Luck was a once in a 10 year prospect...

 

They don't just pop every 2-3 years

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#42

Quote:Nah last year Joeckel was the clear cut #1 until about 2 weeks before the draft when everyone jumped on Fishers nuts. 
 

So he wasn't the clear cut #1 if he went #2...

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#43

Quote:Andrew Luck was a once in a 10 year prospect...

 

They don't just pop every 2-3 years
 

I know, that's my point.

Hence you will see many different people mocked #1 or #2.. That was my whole point.

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#44

Quote:Qbs win superbowls not defensive ends...
 

Agree, but there are other pieces to the puzzle.  Everyone may not be sold on the qb's at the top end of this draft.

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#45

Quote:Just curious, but why? Are you one of the ones who wants us to take a QB just to take one?
Not at all, I believe Teddy will be a franchise quarterback where ever he goes, while Clowney could be a really good DE he has concerns about work ethic and motivation, not to mention an elite DE isn't going to do as much as even an above average QB. 

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#46

Quote:So he wasn't the clear cut #1 if he went #2...
We're talking about mock drafts are we not?

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#47

Quote:Agree, but there are other pieces to the puzzle.  Everyone may not be sold on the qb's at the top end of this draft.
True

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#48

Quote:That's not the point, there is just no way a reputable draftnik would put his 11th ranked prospect and #3 QB at #1 in a draft if it wasn't for the shock and awe factor. ESPN is now set up to lead off with this story every hour, an hourly mid SC Mel's top 10 update, another debate segment with him and McShay for the next week, a plethora of First Take debates with Skip/SAS/random ESPN 'talent' (who has also been screaming he should be #1 for weeks just like he said with Tebow). They're also set up nicely to debate more when more leaks are coming out that Teddy/Bortles/Clowney appear in the lead for the Texans. It's all just 100% fabricated [BAD WORD REMOVED]...and it's of course working because twitter is abuzz and all the blog sites are posting about it and junk. ESPN is the puppetmaster.
in all seriousness have you ever researched about the illuminati? Since you can see through this draft [BLEEP] so easy i bet you'd see clearly how our media and politics are a complete joke. Take some time out of a rainy day and watch the Thrive or loose change documentaries, you have the open mind to understand
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#49

Peter Prisco said he can't recall a draft that was deeper than the upcoming one. It is a good draft to have a lot of picks in, and I am bracing myself for the Jags trading out of the 3rd spot for more picks.


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#50

Quote:Agree, but there are other pieces to the puzzle.  Everyone may not be sold on the qb's at the top end of this draft.
You are absolutely right, but without a QB none of those pieces matter

 

See 2013 Texans. 

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#51

I just want a good player.  I don't realy care if it's not a QB.  I won't be mad if we draft a pro bowl DE or a pro bowl WR, regardless of what anyone else does.

Sure, I'd love a pro bowl QB first and foremost, but if they are gone by the time we pick, that's fine.

 

If the Jags don't think any QBs at #3 are worthy of being franchise changers, I don't want them to draft one.  I'd rather take that pro bowl DE or WR or whoever.  Gettng marginal improvement over Henne at #3 overall is bad value.  But like I said, this will be down to what the Jags think.  I trust they will do their due diligence on every QB and will rank them accordingly.


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#52

Quote:You are absolutely right, but without a QB none of those pieces matter

 

See 2013 Texans. 
 

Of course they matter.  Just because you don't get a QB in this draft doesn't mean you can't get one ever again.

If there isn't a QB worthy of your selection, you don't take one, simple as that.

 

I believe Caldwell made the right call last year in not drafting a QB, if he thought none of them are franchise changers. 

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#53

Quote:Not at all, I believe Teddy will be a franchise quarterback where ever he goes, while Clowney could be a really good DE he has concerns about work ethic and motivation, not to mention an elite DE isn't going to do as much as even an above average QB.
Teddy plays the position with his brain more than his athletic ability....which means his quick and correct reads will make him a great QB for 10-12 years....Clowney will tear it up too....during contract years.
If that RV sales place wants Tebow in Jax bad enough to take out a billboard saying as much.....they should just HIRE him.
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#54
(This post was last modified: 01-15-2014, 04:54 PM by Jags32250.)

Anyone else see this "once in a decade" crap as purely media hype/speculation?  Sorry but the past 10 years of QB prospects currently playing in the NFL match up very nicely, with several superior, to Luck and i'd be willing to bet good money the same goes for Clowney.  Heck i even heard the same mentioned for Joeckel.  Media hype to garnish interest.



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#55

Agreed - the draft is first and foremost a TV event nowadays.  Hyperbole will become the norm. 

 

I want the Jags to get 4 starters (non-special teams starters, mind you) that start for at least 3 years for us.


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#56

On January 16, 2013, Mel Kiper's mock draft had Damontre Moore at #2 overall. Moore ended up going 81st. 

 

Take these mocks with a grain of salt.

 

Also with that said the local sports radio here in Jax made a good point about Kiper's picks. How is it that Bridgewater can have a better statistical season in every category  this year compared to last year but drop from #1 overall to behind Manziel and Bortles?

 

Bortles stats from this year to last year are near identical and he jumps to #2 Qb in the draft, while Bridgewater who actually improved in every category drops to #3 Qb. 


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#57

Quote:On January 16, 2013, Mel Kiper's mock draft had Damontre Moore at #2 overall. Moore ended up going 81st. 

 

Take these mocks with a grain of salt.

 

Also with that said the local sports radio here in Jax made a good point about Kiper's picks. How is it that Bridgewater can have a better statistical season in every category  this year compared to last year but drop from #1 overall to behind Manziel and Bortles?

 

Bortles stats from this year to last year are near identical and he jumps to #2 Qb in the draft, while Bridgewater who actually improved in every category drops to #3 Qb. 
 

If this year's draft class is more talented than last years, the #1 overall prospect may become the #5.

 

Also, last year at UCF Bortles may have put up similar numbers, but if he has also shown improvement in other areas (on tape), you couple that with an impressive bowl victory and sure - he can shoot up draft boards.

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#58

Quote:You are absolutely right, but without a QB none of those pieces matter

 

See 2013 Texans. 
 

A QB alone isn't going to make a bit of difference next year on a club with as many needs as ours.

 

See 2013 Falcons.

 

Even if you have as near a complete team as theirs, if you're lacking in key areas then there's no QB who can carry both sides of the ball on their back to make up for it.  Not a single one.  And I don't see any of this QB crop being as talented as Matt Ryan.

 

Take the best available player, even if it's not a QB, even if you need one badly.  The draft was, is, and will always be, about the best value.

"You do your own thing in your own time. You should be proud."
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#59

Quote:Also with that said the local sports radio here in Jax made a good point about Kiper's picks. How is it that Bridgewater can have a better statistical season in every category  this year compared to last year but drop from #1 overall to behind Manziel and Bortles?
 

Because he's a bean pole, played subpar competition in a subpar league, and didn't win any awards or lead in many statistical categories despite that artificially propped production.

"You do your own thing in your own time. You should be proud."
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#60

Quote:Because he's a bean pole, played subpar competition in a subpar league, and didn't win any awards or lead in many statistical categories despite that artificially propped production.


Literally none of that has to do with how he'll fair in the NFL.
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