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Cam Robinson looked real ugly yesterday.

#21

(08-19-2018, 11:01 PM)JagFanatic24 Wrote:
(08-19-2018, 09:24 PM)Senor Fantastico Wrote: O Line always looks sloppy in the preseason. I'm not worried, and his PFF grade is hilarious to me.

I feel the same way. Robinson has pro bowl type potential. I’m not worried about LT at all.

The only thing I am worried about is our WRs. Once Chark becomes our number 1 and Lee and Westbrook can hold down the other spots. Sprinkle in some Greene or Mickens and stretch em out with Coke, then we will be alright.

I dont think greene or mickens are going to make the team.
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#22

(08-19-2018, 01:34 PM)The_Franchise_QB Wrote: Cam is average.


I can agree that he's an average starting LT in this league, which isn't bad for a 2nd-year player. It's also light-years ahead of the next best possible LT aside from maybe Parnell.  Wells, for instance, can only dream of being as good.

(08-20-2018, 01:39 AM)jessepeck1213 Wrote:
(08-19-2018, 11:01 PM)JagFanatic24 Wrote: I feel the same way. Robinson has pro bowl type potential. I’m not worried about LT at all.

The only thing I am worried about is our WRs. Once Chark becomes our number 1 and Lee and Westbrook can hold down the other spots. Sprinkle in some Greene or Mickens and stretch em out with Coke, then we will be alright.

I dont think greene or mickens are going to make the team.


A week ago I would have said the same thing, but after watching the 2nd game I have renewed hope for Greene possibly stealing the 6th WR spot... that said, there's no guarantee they'll keep six WRs. 

(08-19-2018, 03:44 PM)hb1148 Wrote: He's far from average. He has pro-bowl potential. As usual around this time of year, people are reading way to much into preseason games.


I totally agree with him having Pro Bowl potential as I've seen enough flashes to suggest as much. I'm also sure he'll be our starting LT for the next decade. That said, he still has growing to do and there are several really good starting LTs in this league. I'd say he's borderline top 15 right now, which suggests he actually is average at this point. Maybe this year will help him move into the top 10. He'll be here a while, so there's plenty of time for him to move up those rankings.
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#23

(08-19-2018, 04:08 PM)Predator Wrote:
(08-19-2018, 02:12 PM)Upper Wrote: He got torched a few times in the first game too. Like that play by whatever a Stephen Weatherly is.

https://twitter.com/ArifHasanNFL/status/...0865861632

That's not getting torched. That's a miscommunication between him and the guard. He obviously was expecting help from the inside.


If it was miscommunication, who was he thinking about blocking? There was nobody else outside. It looked to me like he totally bit on some kind of outside fake by the DE and then had no chance to recover. 

(08-19-2018, 06:56 PM)The_Franchise_QB Wrote: https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pr...ering-2018

I'm not saying PFF is always right, but cmon look at Cam's grade. To say he isn't average right now is just being a homer. Does he have potential? Sure. Right now though, he isn't a strong point. That's fine, can't be above average everywhere. Hopefully he can develop.


I'm not going through all their red tape to look, but I'm guessing it had him with their typical "rookie" rankings which is their lowest ranking. There are only a handful of rookies in the league that they'll remove from there and properly rank by how they play. We'll see how he really ranks by them after this season.
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#24

Cam was below average last year, but it was his rookie season, and most left tackles dont come in their rookie seasons and light it up. I have hope thya he will take a big step forward this year.
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#25

(08-20-2018, 02:42 AM)Jags02 Wrote: I'm not going through all their red tape to look, but I'm guessing it had him with their typical "rookie" rankings which is their lowest ranking. There are only a handful of rookies in the league that they'll remove from there and properly rank by how they play. We'll see how he really ranks by them after this season.

He gave up 3 or more pressures in 10 of his 15 games last year. That's a whole lot. He can thank Bortles' escapability and our shorter developing than most play calls or else our opinion of him would be way different.
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#26

Cam is only 22 years old and entering his 2nd season. He's got ideal size and mass (6'6 320), but has growth opportunity to become a good NFL tackle. Right now, he is inconsistent with his technique.
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#27

I'm way more worried about the backup LT position than I am Robinson.
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#28

(08-20-2018, 12:18 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: I'm way more worried about the backup LT position than I am Robinson.

Me too. I really hope Richardson can acclimate quickly. 

Right now the drop off at both tackle spots after the starters is, well, something like this: 

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#29

Let's not jump to conclusions here.
Cam Robinson is a 2nd year player who was playing next to a backup OG and across from a premier player.

If he stacks performances like that... then we can have a discussion about his future.
But last year against average DEs Cam was a beast.... so let the guy develop a bit, eh?
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#30

(08-19-2018, 02:41 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: I'm glad we have something to whine about, it was starting to feel weird around here.

Bwahahahahaa!!
Let's Get Em!!!! Go Jags!
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#31

(08-20-2018, 12:21 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:
(08-20-2018, 12:18 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: I'm way more worried about the backup LT position than I am Robinson.

Me too. I really hope Richardson can acclimate quickly. 

Right now the drop off at both tackle spots after the starters is, well, something like this: 

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If it were me, I'd play Richardson most of the game vs. Atlanta and rotate him half the time at RT and half at LT to see how he does.
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#32

Chris Reed helped double team the center for some reason instead of flowing with Cam to the outside... this actually may not have been Cam's fault. Either way it was an ugly play. During the regular season that will be a Pro Bowler next to Cam.
No pain, no gain.
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#33

(08-20-2018, 12:29 PM)Kane Wrote: Let's not jump to conclusions here.
Cam Robinson is a 2nd year player who was playing next to a backup OG and across from a premier player.

If he stacks performances like that... then we can have a discussion about his future.
But last year against average DEs Cam was a beast.... so let the guy develop a bit, eh?

Don't jump to conclusions? pshhhh... That's what a lot of the members on this forum specialize in.
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(08-19-2018, 02:12 PM)Upper Wrote:
(08-19-2018, 02:09 PM)knarnn Wrote: Danielle Hunter is no joke. Even after his big payday people are still sleeping on him. Cam will be fine.

He got torched a few times in the first game too. Like that play by whatever a Stephen Weatherly is.

https://twitter.com/ArifHasanNFL/status/...0865861632

Vandy! 


As far as Cam, he is just too inconsistent.  May have the physical tools but isnt putting it together every play.  Still early in his career but I think the jury is still out on whether he is the longterm guy there.  LT's aren't easy to find obviously so he may very well be the best player we have the position for a long time.  But he isn't a lock to hold that spot yet.


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#35

I think Robinson will be fine. It's preseason. Last year we saw much the same thing in the preseason. Remember? The line was a huge concern in the preseason. They got things corrected and did fine during the regular season despite injuries.

The biggest area of concern is depth. Josh Wells? Now, he sucks. I know they like his versatility, but if you can play every position, but none of them well, that's not a good thing.
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#36

I'm hoping Norwell will help solidify that side of the line. Cam is very rough. That Twitter by Hasan is real ugly.
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(08-20-2018, 08:12 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote: I'm hoping Norwell will help solidify that side of the line.  Cam is very rough.  That Twitter by Hasan is real ugly.

Looks like it was clearly Reed going the wrong way. If Reed goes to his left and gets on the LB then the lead back gets in that hole Weatherly took and Kam is sealing the edge.
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#38

Marrone on Cam:


Quote:Marrone on Monday also addressed left tackle Cam Robinson, who appeared to struggle against Vikings defensive end Danielle Hunter Saturday. “I think Cam would be the first one to tell you; Cam would say he has to do a better job,” Marrone said. “I think he understands that and we’re working towards that goal to be more consistent and do a better job.” Robinson, a second-round selection from the University of Alabama in the 2017 NFL Draft, started 15 games at left tackle as a rookie last season. Marrone was asked if there was a specific technique issue with which Robinson struggled Saturday. “Sometimes, you could have poor footwork, good hands and win the block,” he said. “Sometimes, you could have poor hands, good footwork and win the block. I think there are a lot of different things that go into it. The mindset prior to [the play] and how you’re going to set someone up and what you’re going to do. There are a lot of things that go into it. We will do whatever we can, obviously, to make sure that he kind of gets out of it.”

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#39

(08-20-2018, 12:29 PM)Kane Wrote: Let's not jump to conclusions here.
Cam Robinson is a 2nd year player who was playing next to a backup OG and across from a premier player.

If he stacks performances like that... then we can have a discussion about his future.
But last year against average DEs Cam was a beast.... so let the guy develop a bit, eh?

Agreed completely.

He struggled against the Bolts last year.

He struggled against Myles Garrett last year.

He struggled late against Harrison in the AFCCG.

Aside from those three games he was solid.  He actually performed well against the Texans.  We've never been able to block those guys until Robinson got here.  Physically he has the tools.  Boselli has said he has some technique things he needs to clean up.  I think he can fix those issue.
 

Worst to 1st.  Curse Reversed!





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#40

(08-21-2018, 11:59 AM)Bullseye Wrote:
(08-20-2018, 12:29 PM)Kane Wrote: Let's not jump to conclusions here.
Cam Robinson is a 2nd year player who was playing next to a backup OG and across from a premier player.

If he stacks performances like that... then we can have a discussion about his future.
But last year against average DEs Cam was a beast.... so let the guy develop a bit, eh?

Agreed completely.

He struggled against the Bolts last year.

He struggled against Myles Garrett last year.

He struggled late against Harrison in the AFCCG.

Aside from those three games he was solid.  He actually performed well against the Texans.  We've never been able to block those guys until Robinson got here.  Physically he has the tools.  Boselli has said he has some technique things he needs to clean up.  I think he can fix those issue.

I would add Chandler Jones from Arizona to that.
2 sacks who knows how many pressures during one of Blake's bad games.
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