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Todd Wash talks a bit about defense issues

#1

In this article: https://www.jacksonville.com/sports/2018...his-season

Here most of his quotes:

Jaguars defensive coordinator Todd Wash was already thinking about this week's plan when he led a defensive meeting Monday that may have also served as a Come-to-Jesus moment.

Asked about the recent string of breakdowns Thursday, Wash mentioned the meeting and then got some things off his chest.

"How we've been playing, consistently, I think through the whole year we're leaving a lot of stuff out on the grass," Wash said. "A lot of it is, I think I overlooked a lot of things. I'm taking it on myself as a coach. My name is on it, obviously. We've got to get back to the base fundamentals of things and maybe stop trying to be so damn cute in what we're trying to do."
And ...
"It was a very humbling experience for all of us on the defensive side of the football and as team," Wash said. "We've got to get back to the basics, fundamentals. It's been a tough week on the players and the coaches. But I think we're growing through this whole experience."
And ...
"We've got to get ourselves back to doing the little things correctly," Wash said. "If we're supposed to be a stack-A linebacker, line up in the stack A. If we're supposed to be a 9-[technique] or a 6-[technique], line up where you're supposed to be. Don't be guessing and trying to make plays. I've kind of let some of that stuff slide. That's my fault and we're cleaning it up."

Interesting quote by Myles Jack on teams taking exemple from how Mariota played the Jags: 
"I'm sure we'll get the same doses that we've been getting since [facing] Mariota," linebacker Myles Jack said. "That opened up a can of worms."
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#2

Excuse me but until the offense keeps the defense off the field long enough to get a decent break I do not blame them for doing what it takes to take care of their multimillion dollar arms, legs, hands, etc...


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(10-19-2018, 05:01 PM)irontrooper83 Wrote: In this article: https://www.jacksonville.com/sports/2018...his-season

Here most of his quotes:

Jaguars defensive coordinator Todd Wash was already thinking about this week's plan when he led a defensive meeting Monday that may have also served as a Come-to-Jesus moment.

Asked about the recent string of breakdowns Thursday, Wash mentioned the meeting and then got some things off his chest.

"How we've been playing, consistently, I think through the whole year we're leaving a lot of stuff out on the grass," Wash said. "A lot of it is, I think I overlooked a lot of things. I'm taking it on myself as a coach. My name is on it, obviously. We've got to get back to the base fundamentals of things and maybe stop trying to be so damn cute in what we're trying to do."
And ...
"It was a very humbling experience for all of us on the defensive side of the football and as team," Wash said. "We've got to get back to the basics, fundamentals. It's been a tough week on the players and the coaches. But I think we're growing through this whole experience."
And ...
"We've got to get ourselves back to doing the little things correctly," Wash said. "If we're supposed to be a stack-A linebacker, line up in the stack A. If we're supposed to be a 9-[technique] or a 6-[technique], line up where you're supposed to be. Don't be guessing and trying to make plays. I've kind of let some of that stuff slide. That's my fault and we're cleaning it up."

Interesting quote by Myles Jack on teams taking exemple from how Mariota played the Jags: 
"I'm sure we'll get the same doses that we've been getting since [facing] Mariota," linebacker Myles Jack said. "That opened up a can of worms."

They WILL respond.  This D has a lot of pride and some strong leadership.  Expect Sunday to be a statement game against the Tinhorns' O.
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Fix the O-Line!
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#4

LACK OF LEADERSHIP
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#5

Just gotta sweep the corners, man.
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#6

I find it very frustrating that he said the following: "We've got to get back to doing the little things correctly...line up where you're supposed to be. Don't be guessing and trying to make plays. I've kind of let some of that stuff slide and that's my fault, and we're cleaning it up."

Maybe I'm being too hard but how as the DC do you allow your players to not line up where they are supposed to be? Like how does that slip through the cracks?
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(10-19-2018, 06:30 PM)Brett Wrote: I find it very frustrating that he said the following: "We've got to get back to doing the little things correctly...line up where you're supposed to be. Don't be guessing and trying to make plays. I've kind of let some of that stuff slide and that's my fault, and we're cleaning it up."

Maybe I'm being too hard but how as the DC do you allow your players to not line up where they are supposed to be? Like how does that slip through the cracks?

Sounds like he figured these guys are basically pro bowlers across the board so they got some leeway.
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(10-19-2018, 06:30 PM)Brett Wrote: I find it very frustrating that he said the following: "We've got to get back to doing the little things correctly...line up where you're supposed to be. Don't be guessing and trying to make plays. I've kind of let some of that stuff slide and that's my fault, and we're cleaning it up."

Maybe I'm being too hard but how as the DC do you allow your players to not line up where they are supposed to be? Like how does that slip through the cracks?

Jags front 7 guys have been over pursuing and being super aggressive with trying to "cheat" in certain directions to get an advantage. If you know enough tape and recognize a tell, or are athletically gifted enough to catch the mistake, you will be okay.

However, Andy Reid's offensive scheme is entirely about using aggressive schemes against you. Spread you and misdirect. Dallas just repeated that game plan, in a lesser fashion because of lack of personnel.
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(10-19-2018, 06:30 PM)Brett Wrote: I find it very frustrating that he said the following: "We've got to get back to doing the little things correctly...line up where you're supposed to be. Don't be guessing and trying to make plays. I've kind of let some of that stuff slide and that's my fault, and we're cleaning it up."

Maybe I'm being too hard but how as the DC do you allow your players to not line up where they are supposed to be? Like how does that slip through the cracks?

It reflects extremely poorly on Marrone. I don't think that kind of thing would fly in New England.
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#10

We aren't the first or only current defense that has had issues lining up properly. That's a lot of what defense is in the NFL believe it or not. Lining up in the right spot for the coverage and disguise. It's not like hey you're going to line up in the exact same spot every play and do the exact same thing.
No pain, no gain.
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(10-19-2018, 06:22 PM)imtheblkranger Wrote: Just gotta sweep the corners, man.

Hahahaha! 

Yeah man got to sweep the corners man. Got to find a way to win man, work together man. It's the journey man. It's about coming together as a team man and just being men man. Yeah man when you think you swept enough you just gotta push a little more and get that extra dirt man.
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(This post was last modified: 10-19-2018, 07:23 PM by Predator.)

(10-19-2018, 06:53 PM)SeldomRite Wrote:
(10-19-2018, 06:30 PM)Brett Wrote: I find it very frustrating that he said the following: "We've got to get back to doing the little things correctly...line up where you're supposed to be. Don't be guessing and trying to make plays. I've kind of let some of that stuff slide and that's my fault, and we're cleaning it up."

Maybe I'm being too hard but how as the DC do you allow your players to not line up where they are supposed to be? Like how does that slip through the cracks?

It reflects extremely poorly on Marrone. I don't think that kind of thing would fly in New England.

I think any coach would have the same problem if they had an all pro defense and a struggling offense. Your good players will try to make plays to make up for the ineffectiveness on the other side of the ball even if it means taking gambles that can put you out of position. It's a natural thing to do when you are trying to figure out a way to win.

Hopefully the addition of Hyde will give more consistency to the offense and we can get back to our style of controlling field position and time of possession. This way the defense doesn't feel the necessity to force the action in order to make a big play and can concentrate on just getting the other team's offense off the field.
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(10-19-2018, 07:06 PM)The_Franchise_QB Wrote:
(10-19-2018, 06:22 PM)imtheblkranger Wrote: Just gotta sweep the corners, man.

Hahahaha! 

Yeah man got to sweep the corners man. Got to find a way to win man, work together man. It's the journey man. It's about coming together as a team man and just being men man. Yeah man when you think you swept enough you just gotta push a little more and get that extra dirt man.

This guy gets it
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(10-19-2018, 06:53 PM)SeldomRite Wrote:
(10-19-2018, 06:30 PM)Brett Wrote: I find it very frustrating that he said the following: "We've got to get back to doing the little things correctly...line up where you're supposed to be. Don't be guessing and trying to make plays. I've kind of let some of that stuff slide and that's my fault, and we're cleaning it up."

Maybe I'm being too hard but how as the DC do you allow your players to not line up where they are supposed to be? Like how does that slip through the cracks?

It reflects extremely poorly on Marrone. I don't think that kind of thing would fly in New England.

It doesn't. This is part of why they got rid of a bunch of borderline pro bowl players like collins and the cornerbacks who would do things like that.

New England mantra is to be very good and smart and do your job without any over pursuit or such.
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(10-19-2018, 06:44 PM)imtheblkranger Wrote: Sounds like he figured these guys are basically pro bowlers across the board so they got some leeway.


I think this could be a main contribution. Something tells me that the players might have thought they were a little bit better than they really were as a team (ie Jalen playing 20 yards off his man) and were trying to do too much/play too much of the field. Maybe Wash was convinced they could do more with less. Whatever the case, it deserves a big Donald Trump "wrong" gif.

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(10-19-2018, 07:59 PM)Flagler Jagsfan Wrote:
(10-19-2018, 06:44 PM)imtheblkranger Wrote: Sounds like he figured these guys are basically pro bowlers across the board so they got some leeway.


I think this could be a main contribution. Something tells me that the players might have thought they were a little bit better than they really were as a team (ie Jalen playing 20 yards off his man) and were trying to do too much/play too much of the field. Maybe Wash was convinced they could do more with less. Whatever the case, it deserves a big Donald Trump "wrong" gif.

You're mostly right. I also think they bought their own hype. A good example is Ramsey who needs to run his mouth less, and his feet more.
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#17

The real issue is we are playing way too much soft zone this year.

Last year we were man to man almost 60% and now we play man to man around 35%.

The scheme is also a problem this year. Ramsey plays 10+ yards off too much this year. I thought this team was suppose to be a press corner team
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(10-19-2018, 06:49 PM)rpr52121 Wrote:
(10-19-2018, 06:30 PM)Brett Wrote: I find it very frustrating that he said the following: "We've got to get back to doing the little things correctly...line up where you're supposed to be...

Jags front 7 guys have been over pursuing and being super aggressive with trying to "cheat" in certain directions to get an advantage. If you know enough tape and recognize a tell, or are athletically gifted enough to catch the mistake, you will be okay.

However, Andy Reid's offensive scheme is entirely about using aggressive schemes against you. Spread you and misdirect. Dallas just repeated that game plan, in a lesser fashion because of lack of personnel.

(10-19-2018, 07:21 PM)Predator Wrote:
(10-19-2018, 06:53 PM)SeldomRite Wrote: It reflects extremely poorly on Marrone. I don't think that kind of thing would fly in New England.

I think any coach would have the same problem if they had an all pro defense and a struggling offense. Your good players will try to make plays to make up for the ineffectiveness on the other side of the ball even if it means taking gambles that can put you out of position. It's a natural thing to do when you are trying to figure out a way to win.

Hopefully the addition of Hyde will give more consistency to the offense and we can get back to our style of controlling field position and time of possession. This way the defense doesn't feel the necessity to force the action in order to make a big play and can concentrate on just getting the other team's offense off the field.

(10-19-2018, 07:55 PM)rpr52121 Wrote:
(10-19-2018, 06:53 PM)SeldomRite Wrote: It reflects extremely poorly on Marrone. I don't think that kind of thing would fly in New England.

It doesn't. This is part of why they got rid of a bunch of borderline pro bowl players like collins and the cornerbacks who would do things like that.

New England mantra is to be very good and smart and do your job without any over pursuit or such.

Lots of smart observations and opinion in these posts. ^
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#19

In all honesty... I really don't give two flying [BLEEP] what Wash has to say at this point... I want to see action and results.. Hes been living on the coat tails of an ultra talented Defense for over 1 1/2 seasons now, yet we're still seeing the same stupid issues. These guys haven't developed any beyond last season. It only looks like they got worse, which falls on the coaches.

We're one of the most talented Defenses in the entire league, with two of the top CBs and one of the best pass rushing groups in the game... Yet we play nearly the least amount of Man Coverage, of any team in the league.... Wash has been an under studied of Gus for a long, long time and hes been clearly showing it as of late.

It's really starting to look like it's the classic case of great talent, making their Coach seem like he's far better than he actually is.
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(10-20-2018, 01:13 AM)Eric1 Wrote: In all honesty... I really don't give two flying [BLEEP] what Wash has to say at this point... I want to see action and results.. Hes been living on the coat tails of an ultra talented Defense for over 1 1/2 seasons now, yet we're still seeing the same stupid issues. These guys haven't developed any beyond last season. It only looks like they got worse, which falls on the coaches.

We're one of the most talented Defenses in the entire league, with two of the top CBs and one of the best pass rushing groups in the game... Yet we play nearly the least amount of Man Coverage, of any team in the league.... Wash has been an under studied of Gus for a long, long time and hes been clearly showing it as of late.

It's really starting to look like it's the classic case of great talent, making their Coach seem like he's far better than he actually is.

Exactly. You dont play zone if you have the talent to play man!
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