In all honesty... I really don't give two flying [BLEEP] what Wash has to say at this point... I want to see action and results.. Hes been living on the coat tails of an ultra talented Defense for over 1 1/2 seasons now, yet we're still seeing the same stupid issues. These guys haven't developed any beyond last season. It only looks like they got worse, which falls on the coaches.

We're one of the most talented Defenses in the entire league, with two of the top CBs and one of the best pass rushing groups in the game... Yet we play nearly the least amount of Man Coverage, of any team in the league.... Wash has been an under studied of Gus for a long, long time and hes been clearly showing it as of late.

It's really starting to look like it's the classic case of great talent, making their Coach seem like he's far better than he actually is.

Exactly. You dont play zone if you have the talent to play man!

And what if we really don't?

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Exactly. You dont play zone if you have the talent to play man!

And what if we really don't?

If the jags don't then no team in the league does.

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In all honesty... I really don't give two flying [BLEEP] what Wash has to say at this point... I want to see action and results.. Hes been living on the coat tails of an ultra talented Defense for over 1 1/2 seasons now, yet we're still seeing the same stupid issues....

Exactly. You dont play zone if you have the talent to play man!

I understand why many folks jump to this take. And it really does make sense. It does. I don't disagree with it. 

But there are game situations and downs and distances when zone coverage is preferred if it's executed correctly. There is also the element of trying to influence turnovers - and zone can allow for jumped routes and big hits on receivers that jar a ball loose a little more than man. Simply because of the angles of coverage.  

So I think I see why Wash has been overly stubborn about it -- but I do hope he's over that now.

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The real issue is we are playing way too much soft zone this year.

Last year we were man to man almost 60% and now we play man to man around 35%.

The scheme is also a problem this year. Ramsey plays 10+ yards off too much this year. I thought this team was suppose to be a press corner team

Do you have evidence for these numbers? I'm pretty sure since Wash has been calling the shots we've been a heavily cover 3 zone base defense, including last year.

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I'm firmly in the " I'll believe it when I see it" category with this BUT I will say that not every coaching staff even admits to doing things wrong, so that's something.

There are definitely obvious things Wash can change to have instant effect , but overall, is he knowledgeable enough to consistently adapt and to defeat opposing gameplans mid game? Because if he can't then someone else needs to take control of this unit and make the most of it.

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Shut out in the first half in back to back games now

In all honesty... I really don't give two flying [BLEEP] what Wash has to say at this point... I want to see action and results.. Hes been living on the coat tails of an ultra talented Defense for over 1 1/2 seasons now, yet we're still seeing the same stupid issues. These guys haven't developed any beyond last season. It only looks like they got worse, which falls on the coaches.

We're one of the most talented Defenses in the entire league, with two of the top CBs and one of the best pass rushing groups in the game... Yet we play nearly the least amount of Man Coverage, of any team in the league.... Wash has been an under studied of Gus for a long, long time and hes been clearly showing it as of late.

It's really starting to look like it's the classic case of great talent, making their Coach seem like he's far better than he actually is.

Amen

Get back to the basics? Doing too much? This is already one of the most vanilla defenses in the league.. unreal

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If I dont see a spy on watson from one of our LBs this week then Im going to lose it... all we gotta do is play man coverage, FS playing middle of the field, 1 linebacker on a spy sitting in the middle to start the play in order to stop any quick slants and then gradually creep toward the LOS... and rush 4..

Leaves 6 in coverage, rush of 4 and a LB on spy duty also taking away quick passes in the midde

Had we done that we woulda beat Tenn

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The real issue is we are playing way too much soft zone this year.

Last year we were man to man almost 60% and now we play man to man around 35%.

The scheme is also a problem this year.  Ramsey plays 10+ yards off too much this year.  I thought this team was suppose to be a press corner team

Do you have evidence for these numbers? I'm pretty sure since Wash has been calling the shots we've been a heavily cover 3 zone base defense, including last year.

I don't know if these stats are what he was thinking of but he may refer to this BCC article (an interesting one, for once) where they show how much more off coverage we are playing this year compared to last year:
https://www.bigcatcountry.com/2018/10/17...on-in-2018

Not that we really needed stats to notice that we are giving much more cushion to receiver this season than the last one but seeing it in numbers is pretty discouraging.

We'll see if they adjust on these things as well

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All your theories assume the players are giving 100%. I think the schemes are less an issue than motivation to play as a unit to execute game plans. Until the offense finds solutions to clock management problems, no matter what Wash dials up, matter how clever or basic, our players are going to struggle with the perception that they shoulder the load. ACCOUNTABILITY, please.


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