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2019 Jags Salary Cap


(02-15-2019, 11:15 AM)Kane Wrote: I'm not worried about the cap...
Using Spotrac, I made these simple and likely cuts. (I'm in the minority that thinks we could actually move Malik for a mid to late round pick but for this I just cut him)

QB of the future is not on the roster, Borts and Kess are gone.
Malik isn't who he was 3 years ago, but still valuable imo, but his $ is too much for what he actually gave us last season and is too much to risk rostering a guy who may not be a starter for us anymore.
ASJ was already cut (or was he) it's estimated that he'll be released so I cut him.
Gip some may not agree with, but Wilson got paid so the team may be ready to move on here... I like Gip but he's not a superstar.
Parnell and Hyde are easy cuts with the draft and possibly last years draft providing those replacements for a fraction of the cost.

Released Blake Bortles
(Saved: $4,500,000)
Released Malik Jackson
(Saved: $11,000,000)
Released Tashaun Gipson
(Saved: $7,450,000)
Released Austin Seferian-Jenkins
(Saved: $4,406,250)
Released Jermey Parnell
(Saved: $6,000,000)
Released Carlos Hyde
(Saved: $4,700,000)
Released Cody Kessler
(Saved: $912,147)

CAP TOTALS
Total Available Cap:
$200,600,000
Dead Cap $:
$24,578,993
Offensive Cap $:
$48,969,373
Defensive Cap $:
$94,950,321
Special Teams Cap $:
$1,447,905
Total Team Cap $:
$169,946,592
Cap Space:
$30,653,408
Total Savings:
$38,968,397

Doesn't leave us a ton of play money but leaves us plenty to not worry

Intriguing.  Not TERRIBLE.  The looming cloud is gonna be trying to pay Jalen AND Yannick in the coming 2 years. Dead Cap next year with Blake being gone should help some but wow.

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(01-31-2019, 04:46 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: I’m not worried about being under the cap.

My concern is extending Ramsey and Ngakoue.
Looks like that will be fine as well as long as they don’t pay stupid millions for a QB or overspend on other free agents.


Couldn't have said it better myself. I think we'll be fine though, especially with all the other pieces (Campbell, Gipson, Hayden, etc.) Most likely flaking off these next few years. Build around the young core, get a futuristic offense, and we will be able to compete.
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Here's John Oehser's latest take on the Jags' current cap situation for those of you interested/keeping track:


Quote:What is the CAP for the 2019 season?

The NFL’s salary cap for the 2019 League Year is expected to be between $187.0 to $191 million with the Jaguars expected to be able to roll over $11.6 million in cap space from 2018 to 2019. That leaves the Jaguars currently about $4 million over the cap for the start of the new league year, a situation that will be resolved between now and then by players being released or contracts being restructured.

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(02-15-2019, 11:47 AM)Talented Kalamari Wrote:
(01-31-2019, 04:46 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: I’m not worried about being under the cap.

My concern is extending Ramsey and Ngakoue.
Looks like that will be fine as well as long as they don’t pay stupid millions for a QB or overspend on other free agents.


Couldn't have said it better myself. I think we'll be fine though, especially with all the other pieces (Campbell, Gipson, Hayden, etc.) Most likely flaking off these next few years. Build around the young core, get a futuristic offense, and we will be able to compete.

There is also alot more flexibility in the 2020 offseason with finding cheaper replacements and questions of cutting/restructuring deals for Norwell, Linder, Bouye, Lee and Smith.

There may even be the possibility of restructuring Bouye and Linder this off season.
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Can somebody elaborate on our 2019 cap situation? I've read so many different things.. I know we are somewhat scraping. Surely that means the jags are looking to make some cuts in order to land Foles. From what I've read, it looks like we're gonna sign him to a 2 or 3 year deal. I assume the price tag is gonna be at least $15M per season. How do we afford this?
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(03-04-2019, 03:01 PM)Talented Kalamari Wrote: Can somebody elaborate on our 2019 cap situation? I've read so many different things.. I know we are somewhat scraping. Surely that means the jags are looking to make some cuts in order to land Foles. From what I've read, it looks like we're gonna sign him to a 2 or 3 year deal. I assume the price tag is gonna be at least $15M per season. How do we afford this?

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(03-04-2019, 03:15 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:
(03-04-2019, 03:01 PM)Talented Kalamari Wrote: Can somebody elaborate on our 2019 cap situation? I've read so many different things.. I know we are somewhat scraping. Surely that means the jags are looking to make some cuts in order to land Foles. From what I've read, it looks like we're gonna sign him to a 2 or 3 year deal. I assume the price tag is gonna be at least $15M per season. How do we afford this?

https://twitter.com/danielrpopper/status...31776?s=21

Dude thank you so much for that. you really think we cut Gip though? dude is still a force at FS imo.. I know we need the cap space but I still think the guy can really contribute.
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(03-04-2019, 03:17 PM)Talented Kalamari Wrote:
(03-04-2019, 03:15 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: https://twitter.com/danielrpopper/status...31776?s=21

Dude thank you so much for that. you really think we cut Gip though? dude is still a force at FS imo.. I know we need the cap space but I still think the guy can really contribute.

I think GIP is the least likely cut on that list. 
Could happen, but I don’t think it’s something they want.
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(03-04-2019, 03:19 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:
(03-04-2019, 03:17 PM)Talented Kalamari Wrote: Dude thank you so much for that. you really think we cut Gip though? dude is still a force at FS imo.. I know we need the cap space but I still think the guy can really contribute.

I think GIP is the least likely cut on that list. 
Could happen, but I don’t think it’s something they want.

I think he would be the last cut and only to fit an unlikely FA addition. Like it wouldn't happen unless Earl Thomas's agent called up Coughlin and was like I want to come to Jax...
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"If they cut Blake Bortles, Malik Jackson, Tashaun Gipson, Carlos Hyde and Jeremy Parnell, they'll get to $36,284,572 in cap space."

NYC, rpr, '02, et al- do you have a ballpark of what the rookie draft will cost? I'm guessing maybe $12-14 mill (??), thereby reducing that cap space to about $22-24 mill?
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(03-05-2019, 10:42 AM)PF* Wrote: "If they cut Blake Bortles, Malik Jackson, Tashaun Gipson, Carlos Hyde and Jeremy Parnell, they'll get to $36,284,572 in cap space."

NYC, rpr, '02, et al-  do you have a ballpark of what the rookie draft will cost? I'm guessing maybe $12-14 mill (??), thereby reducing that cap space to about $22-24 mill?

https://overthecap.com/draft/

Says about $9 million

I think there is still some more restructuring that will occur to free up a little bit more.
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(03-04-2019, 03:15 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:
(03-04-2019, 03:01 PM)Talented Kalamari Wrote: Can somebody elaborate on our 2019 cap situation? I've read so many different things.. I know we are somewhat scraping. Surely that means the jags are looking to make some cuts in order to land Foles. From what I've read, it looks like we're gonna sign him to a 2 or 3 year deal. I assume the price tag is gonna be at least $15M per season. How do we afford this?

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(03-05-2019, 04:12 PM)jagshype Wrote:
(03-05-2019, 10:42 AM)PF* Wrote: "If they cut Blake Bortles, Malik Jackson, Tashaun Gipson, Carlos Hyde and Jeremy Parnell, they'll get to $36,284,572 in cap space."

NYC, rpr, '02, et al-  do you have a ballpark of what the rookie draft will cost? I'm guessing maybe $12-14 mill (??), thereby reducing that cap space to about $22-24 mill?

https://overthecap.com/draft/

Says about $9 million

I think there is still some more restructuring that will occur to free up a little bit more.

Thanks. I think so too, probably even a surprise cut.
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Spotrac appears to have a more accurate figure as they're accounting for all of the dead money where Overthecap is only counting a few players.

So, the Jaguars are currently $28.3 mil under the cap before restructuring Calais or making a decision on Bortles.
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(03-10-2019, 09:08 AM)Jags02 Wrote: Spotrac appears to have a more accurate figure as they're accounting for all of the dead money where Overthecap is only counting a few players.

So, the Jaguars are currently $28.3 mil under the cap before restructuring Calais or making a decision on Bortles.

The Bortles decision has already known...its going to be a post June 1st cut.

Bigger decision is Foles and at what cost...
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(03-10-2019, 12:05 PM)BlueEyedJag Wrote:
(03-10-2019, 09:08 AM)Jags02 Wrote: Spotrac appears to have a more accurate figure as they're accounting for all of the dead money where Overthecap is only counting a few players.

So, the Jaguars are currently $28.3 mil under the cap before restructuring Calais or making a decision on Bortles.

The Bortles decision has already known...its going to be a post June 1st cut.

Bigger decision is Foles and at what cost...

I agree, though if there is a chance to take Bortles' dead money hit on the 2019 instead of the 2020 cap, I'd take it. We have Ramsey, Jack, and Ngakoue coming up for renewal next season and that's going to cost a fair amount of money. Added to that I think they don't restructure Campbell until after the season so they can take full advantage of the extra money to pay R/J/N. (PS. I know Ramsey is on the fifth year option but that's $23 million, they'd have to find a way to get a deal done).

We currently have $20.3 million open on the 2020 cap with Bortles, Dareus, and Campbell as our top three cap hits. Assuming Bortles is a post June 1 cut, Dareus gets released, and Campbell is restructured that would open up roughly $48 million on the 2020 cap for a total of $68 million. That's plenty to sign Foles this year, plus sign Ramsey and Ngakoue next year. (I think Jack is let go in FA).
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(03-10-2019, 01:17 PM)DragonFury Wrote:
(03-10-2019, 12:05 PM)BlueEyedJag Wrote: The Bortles decision has already known...its going to be a post June 1st cut.

Bigger decision is Foles and at what cost...

I agree, though if there is a chance to take Bortles' dead money hit on the 2019 instead of the 2020 cap, I'd take it. We have Ramsey, Jack, and Ngakoue coming up for renewal next season and that's going to cost a fair amount of money. Added to that I think they don't restructure Campbell until after the season so they can take full advantage of the extra money to pay R/J/N. (PS. I know Ramsey is on the fifth year option but that's $23 million, they'd have to find a way to get a deal done).

We currently have $20.3 million open on the 2020 cap with Bortles, Dareus, and Campbell as our top three cap hits. Assuming Bortles is a post June 1 cut, Dareus gets released, and Campbell is restructured that would open up roughly $48 million on the 2020 cap for a total of $68 million. That's plenty to sign Foles this year, plus sign Ramsey and Ngakoue next year. (I think Jack is let go in FA).
While I would prefer the hit this year as well I just don't see it happening they want/need that 6M this year.
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(03-10-2019, 12:05 PM)BlueEyedJag Wrote:
(03-10-2019, 09:08 AM)Jags02 Wrote: Spotrac appears to have a more accurate figure as they're accounting for all of the dead money where Overthecap is only counting a few players.

So, the Jaguars are currently $28.3 mil under the cap before restructuring Calais or making a decision on Bortles.

The Bortles decision has already known...its going to be a post June 1st cut.

Bigger decision is Foles and at what cost...


Did I miss where they said he would be a June I cut, or are you just guessing? Last I heard, Coughlin was saying "as of right now, Blake is our starting QB." I personally feel they're trying to trade him for a 7th knowing that he'd probably work out a deal with his new team where they only have to pay him his $6.5 mil guaranteed salary for the year. The Jaguars would then save $6.5 mil instead of only $4.5 mil with the offset language and get a 7th round pick out of it. If they can't trade him, why not just keep him and let him beat out Kessler for the backup spot?

Also, I do believe if they make him a June 1 cut, that means they'll have to pay him his $1 or $2 mil roster bonus due March 17th. Is it worth paying him an extra $1 or $2 mil in order to delay some of the dead money? I'm pretty sure it's $2 mil, but Spotrac has a note underneath all their details for Bortles that only says $1 mil with the March 17th date. 
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(03-10-2019, 01:17 PM)DragonFury Wrote:
(03-10-2019, 12:05 PM)BlueEyedJag Wrote: The Bortles decision has already known...its going to be a post June 1st cut.

Bigger decision is Foles and at what cost...

I agree, though if there is a chance to take Bortles' dead money hit on the 2019 instead of the 2020 cap, I'd take it. We have Ramsey, Jack, and Ngakoue coming up for renewal next season and that's going to cost a fair amount of money. Added to that I think they don't restructure Campbell until after the season so they can take full advantage of the extra money to pay R/J/N. (PS. I know Ramsey is on the fifth year option but that's $23 million, they'd have to find a way to get a deal done).

We currently have $20.3 million open on the 2020 cap with Bortles, Dareus, and Campbell as our top three cap hits. Assuming Bortles is a post June 1 cut, Dareus gets released, and Campbell is restructured that would open up roughly $48 million on the 2020 cap for a total of $68 million. That's plenty to sign Foles this year, plus sign Ramsey and Ngakoue next year. (I think Jack is let go in FA).


If Bortles is a post June 1st cut, does that he cannot look for a back up job until after that date?

In, 2020 Jags will have more money freed up then just that. I would be surprised if Bouye and Telvin's contracts are left alone. Plus Lee will probably be cut. 

Honestly, the 2019 draft and development from 2018 picks will likely determine this franchise outlook for a good while. If it all falls apart this season, it may take a near full rebuild.
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(03-10-2019, 01:45 PM)Jags02 Wrote:
(03-10-2019, 12:05 PM)BlueEyedJag Wrote: The Bortles decision has already known...its going to be a post June 1st cut.

Bigger decision is Foles and at what cost...


Did I miss where they said he would be a June I cut, or are you just guessing? Last I heard, Coughlin was saying "as of right now, Blake is our starting QB." I personally feel they're trying to trade him for a 7th knowing that he'd probably work out a deal with his new team where they only have to pay him his $6.5 mil guaranteed salary for the year. The Jaguars would then save $6.5 mil instead of only $4.5 mil with the offset language and get a 7th round pick out of it. If they can't trade him, why not just keep him and let him beat out Kessler for the backup spot?

Also, I do believe if they make him a June 1 cut, that means they'll have to pay him his $1 or $2 mil roster bonus due March 17th. Is it worth paying him an extra $1 or $2 mil in order to delay some of the dead money? I'm pretty sure it's $2 mil, but Spotrac has a note underneath all their details for Bortles that only says $1 mil with the March 17th date. 

If he's cut after June 1st or designated a post-June 1st cut, we can save as much as 16 million in cap space this season.  If they cut him before then without the designation it's only a 4.5 mil cap savings, so it'd be incredibly stupid to not make that designation.  The 16 mil is dependent on what type of contract he gets with his next team, but it is still a guaranteed 9.5 mil savings even without the offset factored in.
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(03-10-2019, 01:49 PM)rpr52121 Wrote:
(03-10-2019, 01:17 PM)DragonFury Wrote: I agree, though if there is a chance to take Bortles' dead money hit on the 2019 instead of the 2020 cap, I'd take it. We have Ramsey, Jack, and Ngakoue coming up for renewal next season and that's going to cost a fair amount of money. Added to that I think they don't restructure Campbell until after the season so they can take full advantage of the extra money to pay R/J/N. (PS. I know Ramsey is on the fifth year option but that's $23 million, they'd have to find a way to get a deal done).

We currently have $20.3 million open on the 2020 cap with Bortles, Dareus, and Campbell as our top three cap hits. Assuming Bortles is a post June 1 cut, Dareus gets released, and Campbell is restructured that would open up roughly $48 million on the 2020 cap for a total of $68 million. That's plenty to sign Foles this year, plus sign Ramsey and Ngakoue next year. (I think Jack is let go in FA).


If Bortles is a post June 1st cut, does that he cannot look for a back up job until after that date?

He can only talk to other teams if he gets permission from the Jaguars or after he gets released.
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