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2019 O Line
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(02-15-2019, 12:28 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: I think RG and RT are question marks right now and we have no competent depth currently in place. If I not mistaken Parnell isn't on our roster anymore w/respect to the RT position. Taylor is our RT of choice and I don't feel that Richardson is going to edge him out. Also Cann will maintain his position at RG because Richardson has never played the position until OTAs. We need an veteran at tht RG position due to having a rookie to his right. All other positions are concrete baring an setback or injury in my opinion. Time Will Tell. NH3...
"AZANE"
We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! (06-08-2019, 03:15 AM)Jags02 Wrote:(06-07-2019, 12:13 PM)rfc17 Wrote: Cann has always been a serviceable guard who, by sheer circumstance, has never had to face serious competition at his position. And Richardson may or may not finally provide some. Depends on how well he progresses. But if he does start to look good, then I think he will be a serious threat for the starting job. Cann is definitely replaceable. We've just never had anyone here or looked very hard for someone who could do so. Look at the guaranteed money in his deal. He's the 36th highest paid guard in the league in guarantees. Starter money? Yes, but barely. Doesn't scream "confidence" to me. (06-08-2019, 07:02 AM)NH3 Wrote:(02-15-2019, 12:28 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: I think RG and RT are question marks right now and we have no competent depth currently in place. You're responding to a post from February.
(06-07-2019, 08:30 AM)NYC4jags Wrote:Obviously(06-07-2019, 07:25 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: The reason Richardson is getting time at RG now is because we drafted Taylor. If we never drafted Taylor I don't think you would be seeing Richardson at G.Obviously. (06-08-2019, 08:46 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:(06-07-2019, 08:30 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: Obviously.Obviously LOL sorry. It seemed obvious. (06-08-2019, 07:05 AM)NYC4jags Wrote:(06-08-2019, 03:15 AM)Jags02 Wrote: I don't think it's just a matter of talent although I know Marrone would argue this point. It's just when you're paying a guy starting money, you want him to start. I'm thinking for someone to be out Cann, he's going to have to obviously beat out Cann by a mile. If it's even close, the job is AJ's. My Bad, I wasn't paying attention to posting dates. I'll be sure to do better... NH3...
"AZANE"
We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! (06-12-2019, 01:39 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: https://twitter.com/phillip_heilman/stat...8252868610 That's awesome. But you can also look like Tarzan and play like Jane at this level. Hopefully everything translates well for him at RT. I have the same concerns as you. I feel fairly comfortable and confident between Robinson, Norwell and Linder from left to center. But the right side will have to step it up this year. I am just hoping Robinson and Linder can psychically hold up this year as well. ![]() "What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."
(06-12-2019, 01:39 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: https://twitter.com/phillip_heilman/stat...8252868610 I'm thinking the steal of the draft. He weighed almost 400 lbs not that long ago. I like his attitude and great work ethic. I honestly feel like he could play LT also if something happens to Cam and Richardson could get his shot at RT. Hopefully Cam can stay healthy too though. If our oline stays healthy I think we have the most potential out of any oline in the league with Norwell, as we know he has all ready been an All Pro and Linder has been a top 5 C since he moved there. Hopefully Cann has a career year and we will dominate
Robinson, Norwell, Linder, Cann/Richardson, Taylor
If healthy probably is a very good line. I wonder if anyone else is in play for RG? We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
Is Cann possibly a better player than people think and did he make errors at RG trying to do his job and help Parnell at the same time? I believe Parnell is still unsigned by any of the teams.
(06-12-2019, 06:32 PM)3/4 Back Wrote: Is Cann possibly a better player than people think and did he make errors at RG trying to do his job and help Parnell at the same time? I believe Parnell is still unsigned by any of the teams. My complaints about Cann over the past couple of years have been the result of seeing him beaten too many times in the run game. I've just seen too many plays where he allowed penetration into the backfield - or plays where he got zero push against his guy. I think there is a very good chance he'll look better playing between a healthy Linder and Taylor than he did with Shatley and an injured Parnell. (or one of Parnell's various backups) I just see him as a pretty easily upgradeable guard, not necessarily a "bad" player or anything. (06-12-2019, 01:53 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:(06-12-2019, 01:39 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: https://twitter.com/phillip_heilman/stat...8252868610 I can't wait to see him in preseason. I still have very little opinion on the guy. I thought the bashing he got pre-draft was over the top/undeserved based on what I saw in cutups.
Cann strikes me as rather reliable in pass protection. He played next to backup caliber Center which surely didn't help. That said, I've never been overly impressed with his run blocking. Technically he's sound, but you don't see the kind of power we used to see when we had Meester and Naeole up front.
'02
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Cann was re-signed for a reason. The new OL coach has emphasized confidence in his ability to continue progressing at his position. As it's been stated, Cann had to do his job and theirs as well. He was the most durable O-LINEMEN of the 2018 season. I envision him being an asset vs. being an hinderence.
Time Will Tell. NH3...
"AZANE"
IMHO we have no Guards. I like our tackles (even though Jawaan Taylor has yet to play meaningful snaps the reports are encouraging and he was a stud in college). Norwell still needs to make a full recovery and show he can play like he did on the Panthers and Cann is just a guy. Like Guards are supposed to be a dime a dozen several times over, it should be the easiest spot to find a starting caliber player in theory yet somehow this team has yet to adequately replace Guards since Vince Manuwai (RIP) and Uche Nwaneri left town.
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1) Draft Trevor Lawrence! 2) Play good physical Defense! 3) Keep 91% of the roster healthy! 4) ??? 5) Blank #2 6) CHAMPIONSHIP!!! (06-13-2019, 02:22 PM)Firesky Wrote: IMHO we have no Guards. I like our tackles (even though Jawaan Taylor has yet to play meaningful snaps the reports are encouraging and he was a stud in college). Norwell still needs to make a full recovery and show he can play like he did on the Panthers and Cann is just a guy. Like Guards are supposed to be a dime a dozen several times over, it should be the easiest spot to find a starting caliber player in theory yet somehow this team has yet to adequately replace Guards since Vince Manuwai (RIP) and Uche Nwaneri left town. I'm not at all worried about Norwell. I see him as one of the few best interior OLs in the league with a huge chip on his shoulder.
'02
(06-14-2019, 10:00 PM)Jags02 Wrote:(06-13-2019, 02:22 PM)Firesky Wrote: IMHO we have no Guards. I like our tackles (even though Jawaan Taylor has yet to play meaningful snaps the reports are encouraging and he was a stud in college). Norwell still needs to make a full recovery and show he can play like he did on the Panthers and Cann is just a guy. Like Guards are supposed to be a dime a dozen several times over, it should be the easiest spot to find a starting caliber player in theory yet somehow this team has yet to adequately replace Guards since Vince Manuwai (RIP) and Uche Nwaneri left town. Agreed, the only real question is health.
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(06-13-2019, 02:22 PM)Firesky Wrote: IMHO we have no Guards. I like our tackles (even though Jawaan Taylor has yet to play meaningful snaps the reports are encouraging and he was a stud in college). Norwell still needs to make a full recovery and show he can play like he did on the Panthers and Cann is just a guy. Like Guards are supposed to be a dime a dozen several times over, it should be the easiest spot to find a starting caliber player in theory yet somehow this team has yet to adequately replace Guards since Vince Manuwai (RIP) and Uche Nwaneri left town. If you think of offensive guards like they are dime a dozen players, then you'll never have good ones. Guards are not dime a dozen players, or else it would be very easy to fill those spots and as our history shows, it's not. You don't just pick a guy late in the draft and expect to get a good player. (06-13-2019, 02:22 PM)Firesky Wrote: IMHO we have no Guards. I like our tackles (even though Jawaan Taylor has yet to play meaningful snaps the reports are encouraging and he was a stud in college). Norwell still needs to make a full recovery and show he can play like he did on the Panthers and Cann is just a guy. Like Guards are supposed to be a dime a dozen several times over, it should be the easiest spot to find a starting caliber player in theory yet somehow this team has yet to adequately replace Guards since Vince Manuwai (RIP) and Uche Nwaneri left town.As my daughter says, Yeeeeah, NO. NH3...
"AZANE"
(06-12-2019, 01:53 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:(06-12-2019, 01:39 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: https://twitter.com/phillip_heilman/stat...8252868610 Even more so now that Jonah Williams is out for the season. |
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