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Doug Marrone on QB decision: “I’ll deal with it when it happens.”

#41

Not trying to start anything but I'm right in saying the QB1 decision will be Marrone's?
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#42

He's the HEAD coach. Should be his and only his decision.
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#43

(10-28-2019, 11:51 AM)Newton Wrote: If minshew beats the Texans, you got to roll with him against the colts.

Exactly  except if he has a fantastic game and the defense struggles it's still going to be difficult.
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#44

(10-28-2019, 05:44 PM)JagFan81 Wrote: Not trying to start anything but I'm right in saying the QB1 decision will be Marrone's?

Agree, and I think Marrone will ask DelFil's and let him make the call
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#45

It should be Marrone's decision. And I am hoping like hell he makes the right one. Minshew should NOT be benched until he proves he no longer deserves the job. Losing to three play-off teams in one score contests is not a good enough excuse to bench him. If he plays like he did yesterday in London against the tinhorns and he leads us to a 5 - 4 record going into the bye week he should keep his job regardless.

We stand a good chance of beating the indy clots after the bye week too. They've been winning some close games lately. I think we'll give them a nice run for their money. I can't wait man. If Minshew wins out over the next three weeks against divisional opponents and he looks good doing it he's the future here. No if's, and's or but's about it.

Foles was a nice signing. It was the right signing at that time considering they didn't know what the hell to expect in the draft. They got lucky with Minshew. You just have to stick with this kid until he proves why you shouldn't. I hope like hell that day never comes.
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#46

Let Minshew have November then decide
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#47

(10-28-2019, 05:44 PM)JagFan81 Wrote: Not trying to start anything but I'm right in saying the QB1 decision will be Marrone's?

Yes. It's Marrone's call ultimately. 

He'll likely consult Flip and Milanovich to confirm his leaning.





My thinking on Foles vs Minshew:


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(10-28-2019, 06:14 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:
(10-28-2019, 05:44 PM)JagFan81 Wrote: Not trying to start anything but I'm right in saying the QB1 decision will be Marrone's?

Yes. It's Marrone's call ultimately. 

He'll likely consult Flip and Milanovich to confirm his leaning.





My thinking on Foles vs Minshew:


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Oh buddy this is like a positive Sophie's Choice. Can we play both?!

It's like Foles is the girl you've admired from a distance, why cant we have someone like that? and we get the courage, make a move and she says yes. Then as soon as you get together, work takes her away for 8 weeks and then suddenly this new, young thing appears from nowhere and blows your mind!! Who do I pick??!

I'm going to be undecided until that first O snap against the Colts.

I think it will be ultimately Marrones call and like you say,  I think hell listen to others advice. I wonder if he has an idea already or wants to see how the team looks with  Foles and Minshew in practice.
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#49

(10-28-2019, 12:11 PM)Cleatwood Wrote:
(10-28-2019, 11:36 AM)dennisp3 Wrote: The Texans game could be the deciding factor if Minshew loses the game pretty sure they’ll go with Foles. If we win the game the decision becomes Much more difficult to make. Until the results of the London game it is premature to decide which quarterback to start. Foles will have to read the defense and get the ball out in two seconds or more to counter the pass rush to be effective. Minchew has the ability to move around in the pocket to counter the pass rush.If we win the Texans game this is going to be a very difficult decision to make I’m glad I don’t have to go jags
It's not the win or the loss that matters but instead how Minshew plays. If the Jags lose 41-38 but Minshew throws for 4 TDs, how can you bench him? On the flip side, if the Jags win 9-6 and Minshew plays poorly, you can have the conversation.

At this point though, there is really no reason to go back to Foles. Minshew has command of the offense, has chemistry with the receivers and has become a leader. Let's say they make the change. Can the Jags really afford for Foles to have a couple games to get in sync with the receivers? No.
I agree with your reasoning that the quarterback performance may be more important than the win.But I certainly do believe that if we lose against the Texans Sunday they will go to Foles. I also agree that Minshew has timing down with the receivers which foles will may not. The players also believe in Minshew, They respect his work ethic and have rallied around him. I don’t know what the end result will be but I do believe he hast to win Sunday or they’re going to go to Foles.
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#50

There are strong cases to be made for each QB, and I have no doubt we will see 10,000 passionate words written promoting each choice.

But the bottom line is the coach has access to these same arguments, plus a lot of inside information the fans and pundits do not have.

Let's just trust Doug to make this difficult decision. That's why he earns the medium-for-head-coaches bucks.
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#51

(10-28-2019, 06:23 PM)JagFan81 Wrote:
(10-28-2019, 06:14 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: Yes. It's Marrone's call ultimately. 

He'll likely consult Flip and Milanovich to confirm his leaning.





My thinking on Foles vs Minshew:

Oh buddy this is like a positive Sophie's Choice. Can we play both?!

It's like Foles is the girl you've admired from a distance, why cant we have someone like that? and we get the courage, make a move and she says yes. Then as soon as you get together, work takes her away for 8 weeks and then suddenly this new, young thing appears from nowhere and blows your mind!! Who do I pick??!

I'm going to be undecided until that first O snap against the Colts.

I think it will be ultimately Marrones call and like you say,  I think hell listen to others advice. I wonder if he has an idea already or wants to see how the team looks with  Foles and Minshew in practice.

I think that Minshew had some miscues in weeks 6 and 7 and has been getting some coaching about that. He showed signs of correction vs the jets, and if he continues that correction in London then the staff very well could lean toward the hot hand. 

It will be interesting to see if the tinhorns attempt to contain Minshew within the tackle box like the saints did. They may be a bit better equipped to do it than the jets were, and it clearly limits his penchant and knack for extending plays and keeping drives alive. 

If that were to happen again, then coaches have no choice but to at least consider Foles' ability to get the ball out quickly from the pocket.  Something Minshew seems to be a beat slower with.  A half second can make all the difference and it's widely thought Foles has an edge in that dept.
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#52

(10-28-2019, 06:51 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:
(10-28-2019, 06:23 PM)JagFan81 Wrote: Oh buddy this is like a positive Sophie's Choice. Can we play both?!

It's like Foles is the girl you've admired from a distance, why cant we have someone like that? and we get the courage, make a move and she says yes. Then as soon as you get together, work takes her away for 8 weeks and then suddenly this new, young thing appears from nowhere and blows your mind!! Who do I pick??!

I'm going to be undecided until that first O snap against the Colts.

I think it will be ultimately Marrones call and like you say,  I think hell listen to others advice. I wonder if he has an idea already or wants to see how the team looks with  Foles and Minshew in practice.

I think that Minshew had some miscues in weeks 6 and 7 and has been getting some coaching about that. He showed signs of correction vs the jets, and if he continues that correction in London then the staff very well could lean toward the hot hand. 

It will be interesting to see if the tinhorns attempt to contain Minshew within the tackle box like the saints did. They may be a bit better equipped to do it than the jets were, and it clearly limits his penchant and knack for extending plays and keeping drives alive. 

If that were to happen again, then coaches have no choice but to at least consider Foles' ability to get the ball out quickly from the pocket.  Something Minshew seems to be a beat slower with.  A half second can make all the difference and it's widely thought Foles has an edge in that dept.
If they try to contain him in the pocket how should they address the defense then? Maybe get away from under center and play from the shot gun? Give him more space?

Just trying to think. It helps with Watt out for sure. I like the idea of quick plays though. Maybe Josh Oliver is more loose after playing two weeks in a row.

It'll be a fun game though for sure.

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#53

(10-28-2019, 07:27 PM)Caldrac Wrote:
(10-28-2019, 06:51 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: I think that Minshew had some miscues in weeks 6 and 7 and has been getting some coaching about that. He showed signs of correction vs the jets, and if he continues that correction in London then the staff very well could lean toward the hot hand. 

It will be interesting to see if the tinhorns attempt to contain Minshew within the tackle box like the saints did. They may be a bit better equipped to do it than the jets were, and it clearly limits his penchant and knack for extending plays and keeping drives alive. 

If that were to happen again, then coaches have no choice but to at least consider Foles' ability to get the ball out quickly from the pocket.  Something Minshew seems to be a beat slower with.  A half second can make all the difference and it's widely thought Foles has an edge in that dept.
If they try to contain him in the pocket how should they address the defense then? Maybe get away from under center and play from the shot gun? Give him more space?

Just trying to think. It helps with Watt out for sure. I like the idea of quick plays though. Maybe Josh Oliver is more loose after playing two weeks in a row.

It'll be a fun game though for sure.

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They already play out of the shotgun almost exclusively. I think it will be a matter of using more designed quick read plays and identifying receivers, backs and ends that create mismatches when covered by specific tinhorn defenders. 

The tinhorns man defense shouldn't be as stifling as new orleans' was. 

Running the ball effectively with LF could make a huge impact as well. They didn't do that in their last meeting.
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(10-28-2019, 07:38 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:
(10-28-2019, 07:27 PM)Caldrac Wrote: If they try to contain him in the pocket how should they address the defense then? Maybe get away from under center and play from the shot gun? Give him more space?

Just trying to think. It helps with Watt out for sure. I like the idea of quick plays though. Maybe Josh Oliver is more loose after playing two weeks in a row.

It'll be a fun game though for sure.

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They already play out of the shotgun almost exclusively. I think it will be a matter of using more designed quick read plays and identifying receivers, backs and ends that create mismatches when covered by specific tinhorn defenders. 

The tinhorns man defense shouldn't be as stifling as new orleans' was. 

Running the ball effectively with LF could make a huge impact as well. They didn't do that in their last meeting.
There was one pass he made yesterday on an out in the redzone to DeValve. Good read. Good timing. Good throw.

I would like to see more of that. Archuleta was gushing about what he was doing yesterday presnap.

I agree with LF getting going early too. Have to get him going. Still waiting to see more out of Armstead though.

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#55

Remember when Garrard got us to the playoffs the year Leftwich got hurt.... Garrard got us there and was benched the first game of the playoffs...it was against new England....Leftwich laid an egg....I remember thinking Garrard had a better chance of winning....I was not happy with the decision and thought it was the wrong move....
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#56

Haven't we already talked about this?
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#57

(10-28-2019, 08:33 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: Haven't we already talked about this?

Yup, and it's going to continue to be talked about for the next couple of weeks, at the very least. lol
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#58

Foles should be traded for picks. We have a starter now. No matter who starts, there is going to be questions every time things go sideways.
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(10-28-2019, 08:00 PM)nejagsfan Wrote: Remember when Garrard got us to the playoffs the year Leftwich got hurt.... Garrard got us there and was benched the first game of the playoffs...it was against new England....Leftwich laid an egg....I remember thinking Garrard had a better chance of winning....I was not happy with the decision and thought it was the wrong move....

Ohhh do I remember this. I hated that decision. Man we were good that year, 12-4 reg season record if I'm not mistaken right?
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#60

Leftwich was in a boot too. In the snow. It was a horrible decision. He threw a pick six to Samuel early.

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