It's always funny to me talking to non-drug users about drugs... and the non-drug users all act like they know more than the user. Hilarious. And they cite moronic psuedo-scientific studies (and by the way, they are the first to refute that same psuedo-science regarding climate change) that prove nothing except a confirmation bias.

Lol, I've been a user since 1988. Just because you are wrong doesn't mean you're special.

So, freedom for thee, but not for me, then brother?

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

All drugs should be legal

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I don't know about that, if your family member ends up having a psychotic break cause of weed becoming a schizophrenic, you might sing a different tune. Especially since all the weed is much higher potency than in previous decades (14% THC vs 3% in 60's) and high potency weed has lower levels than normal of CBD (which is actually a protective component), it is much more likely to cause these episodes in predisposed individuals. The problem is you don't know who is predisposed a head of time (although young late teens black males are higher risk).

I used to think it should be legal everywhere, and I think it should be much better studied than it is, but I don't think it should be available recreationally. CBD appears to have some actual use, I don't think that THC has any tho.

lol

okay

That doesn't happen in reality.

Used it since I was 16 and I only do the very best and I've been with hundreds upon hundreds of people who never have heard of such a thing.

You're perpetuating a falsehood that has pervaded our culture since the 40s... just stop.

Mercy, I give you data from a meta analysis and you respond with anecdota. But I am the one perpetuating a falsehood? Its always funny how even actual schizophrenic on psychotic breaks still try to deny weeds effects.

What can I say, your viewpoint is good for my business tho.

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lol

okay

That doesn't happen in reality.

Used it since I was 16 and I only do the very best and I've been with hundreds upon hundreds of people who never have heard of such a thing.

You're perpetuating a falsehood that has pervaded our culture since the 40s... just stop.

Wow, stoners who justify their behavior and anecdotes as data. Totally legit.

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The only problem with weed is it's illegality. Big Pharma and a for profit prison system are the reason it remains that way. Get rid of the federal road blocks and the country would see a 80 billion dollar industry explode almost overnight. After taxation the FED would have to find new and improved ways to redistribute and waste all the tax cash.

In actual scientific controlled studies an individual was proven 6 times more likely to develop psychosis if he has consumed cannabis more than 50 times. Just what we need, another 2 million lunatics running around loose.

Glad to not be the only one here who actually knows about this.

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http://youtu.be/ouGM3NWpjxk The Home Hypnotist!

http://youtu.be/XQRFkn0Ly3A Media on the Brain Link!
 

Peyton must store oxygen in that forehead of his. No way I'd still be alive after all that choking.

 

There's cases of strong psychedelic experiences from ingesting marijuana. It's not really a lie. I can tell you from firsthand experience. Edible Marijuana > Smoking Marijuana. It's a lot more psychoactive. I don't know about the "becoming psychosis" from it though. It's certainly not for everybody. But you certainly DO have episodes. 

It honestly comes down to the strain. Which, again, is another good reason as to why it should be legalized that way consumers can actually determine which high they prefer. Which high they don't prefer. Etc. There's a lot of bunk and booty [BLEEP] being sold on the market that has god knows what in it. 

Synthetic [BLEEP] is not good for you. Some dealers may have bud that's been heavily dowsed in chemicals which hurts the strain and contents of what you're actually putting into your body. You could also be oversold a product. "This cartridge of oil contains 83.9% THC", etc. A lot of it's false. Your average medically cleared and graded dispensary is lucky to sell you anything with 20 - 30% THC content.

We'll see what happens though. I understand everyone's concerns. It's certainly not for everybody. But it's no worse than a cigarette, cigar, crack pipe and a few beers. I can find far worse "controlled" substances that are by and large completely legal and numerous studies have shown the adverse effects and long term effects of engaging in them.

I've taken 4 tabs of high grade LSD and not hallucinated. You just feel euphoric and colors are brighter and experiences are better.

Weed will never cause hallucinations. And edibles are not stronger. In fact, going through your metabolism weakens the effects.

If you had 4 tabs of paper or geltab that was worth a [BLEEP], you'd know better.

Marijuana should be treated like alcohol and taxed. It's harder for my 15 year old to get beer than it is bud.

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There's cases of strong psychedelic experiences from ingesting marijuana. It's not really a lie. I can tell you from firsthand experience. Edible Marijuana > Smoking Marijuana. It's a lot more psychoactive. I don't know about the "becoming psychosis" from it though. It's certainly not for everybody. But you certainly DO have episodes. 

It honestly comes down to the strain. Which, again, is another good reason as to why it should be legalized that way consumers can actually determine which high they prefer. Which high they don't prefer. Etc. There's a lot of bunk and booty [BLEEP] being sold on the market that has god knows what in it. 

Synthetic [BLEEP] is not good for you. Some dealers may have bud that's been heavily dowsed in chemicals which hurts the strain and contents of what you're actually putting into your body. You could also be oversold a product. "This cartridge of oil contains 83.9% THC", etc. A lot of it's false. Your average medically cleared and graded dispensary is lucky to sell you anything with 20 - 30% THC content.

We'll see what happens though. I understand everyone's concerns. It's certainly not for everybody. But it's no worse than a cigarette, cigar, crack pipe and a few beers. I can find far worse "controlled" substances that are by and large completely legal and numerous studies have shown the adverse effects and long term effects of engaging in them.

I've taken 4 tabs of high grade LSD and not hallucinated. You just feel euphoric and colors are brighter and experiences are better.

Weed will never cause hallucinations. And edibles are not stronger. In fact, going through your metabolism weakens the effects.

Everyone is built differently. My sister used to drop LSD and had more hallucinations than not and they weren't always pretty. I hallucinate on something as strong as Ambien and something as weak as Trazadone. They are much stronger with Ambien but the result is the same. My husband takes Trazadone with no issues whatsoever. 

Some are predisposed to become addicts to  opiates and others are not. I can take opiates all day long and..... nothing, but give me a cigarette and I'll be addicted again- this time for life. My dad can't do opiates or he'll end up in rehab but he has no taste for cigarettes since quittung 30 years ago.

Just because something affects you a certain way doesn't mean it's that way for everyone.

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it's about time, but don't expect Moscow Mitch, a.k.a. The Grim Reaper, to let it get anywhere in the Senate. It makes too much sense, and would give bipartisanship a victory. A double whammy for him.

Joe Biden already said he would veto it, so let's not pretend there isn't bi-partisan opposition.

Joe Biden isn't president, Moscow Mitch is actively blocking anything coming out of the House, so let's not pretend there is relevancy to your deflection.

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If something can corrupt you, you're corrupted already.
- Bob Marley


 

Joe Biden already said he would veto it, so let's not pretend there isn't bi-partisan opposition.

Joe Biden isn't president, Moscow Mitch is actively blocking anything coming out of the House, so let's not pretend there is relevancy to your deflection.

So Dems are all for it or nah?

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Joe Biden isn't president, Moscow Mitch is actively blocking anything coming out of the House, so let's not pretend there is relevancy to your deflection.

So Dems are all for it or nah?

Dems don't goose step with their leaders, there is no "all for it".

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If something can corrupt you, you're corrupted already.
- Bob Marley


 

Lol, I've been a user since 1988. Just because you are wrong doesn't mean you're special.

So, freedom for thee, but not for me, then brother?

Did I say that?

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So Dems are all for it or nah?

Dems don't goose step with their leaders, there is no "all for it".

Baaaahahahaaaaaaaaaaa

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Let's just remove it from a Schedule 1 Classification shall we?

In no rational persons mind is weed even close to as bad on a physical or social level than heroin or crack.

I don't know about that, if your family member ends up having a psychotic break cause of weed becoming a schizophrenic, you might sing a different tune. Especially since all the weed is much higher potency than in previous decades (14% THC vs 3% in 60's) and high potency weed has lower levels than normal of CBD (which is actually a protective component), it is much more likely to cause these episodes in predisposed individuals. The problem is you don't know who is predisposed a head of time (although young late teens black males are higher risk).

I used to think it should be legal everywhere, and I think it should be much better studied than it is, but I don't think it should be available recreationally. CBD appears to have some actual use, I don't think that THC has any tho.

It's hard to not be anecdotal, given that cannabis's designation as a Schedule I substance has limited scientific studies, but your numbers are off. The herb I used to get was between 20 - 25% THC, but now I get oil from a certified medical dispensary that is 99% THC. I use it less often, in smaller "draws", and the symptoms I treat have become non-existent.

Believe me, I'd love to take part in a study, because my experience has been remarkable. My other personality agrees.

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If something can corrupt you, you're corrupted already.
- Bob Marley


 

I don't know about that, if your family member ends up having a psychotic break cause of weed becoming a schizophrenic, you might sing a different tune. Especially since all the weed is much higher potency than in previous decades (14% THC vs 3% in 60's) and high potency weed has lower levels than normal of CBD (which is actually a protective component), it is much more likely to cause these episodes in predisposed individuals. The problem is you don't know who is predisposed a head of time (although young late teens black males are higher risk).

I used to think it should be legal everywhere, and I think it should be much better studied than it is, but I don't think it should be available recreationally. CBD appears to have some actual use, I don't think that THC has any tho.

It's hard to not be anecdotal, given that cannabis's designation as a Schedule I substance has limited scientific studies, but your numbers are off. The herb I used to get was between 20 - 25% THC, but now I get oil from a certified medical dispensary that is 99% THC. I use it less often, in smaller "draws", and the symptoms I treat have become non-existent.

Believe me, I'd love to take part in a study, because my experience has been remarkable. My other personality agrees.

The studies I read were conducted in Sweden.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Wow, stoners who justify their behavior and anecdotes as data. Totally legit.

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In actual scientific controlled studies an individual was proven 6 times more likely to develop psychosis if he has consumed cannabis more than 50 times. Just what we need, another 2 million lunatics running around loose.

I recall seeing studies like that, and as I recall they just found a correlation.  It was not a controlled experiment.
It may be that people with brains prone to psychosis are also the type of people that seek out marijuana and really enjoy it.
I inhaled pot vapor for an hour at a bar in Amsterdam.  Felt euphoric and confused for about 2 hours after.  And I had gummies in Vegas, that was a very different experience, probably a much lower dose.  The high was very subtle.  I wouldn't go out of my way to do either again. But some of the people I was with couldn't wait to do it again, and try more next time.
Like with alcohol, my personality is more to stay at about 1 or 2 drinks per hour and not stay at a bar or house party longer than about 4 hours. It stops being enjoyable if I go longer, but I always find myself with people who want to overdo it.
I do think that alcohol is also correlated to any number of bad social and health outcomes. I am for legalization of pot just like alcohol. Only for 21 and up. And strict labelling for potency, and inspection.

^This. Especially the part in bold.

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"Why should I give information to you when all you want to do is find something wrong with it?"

Some of you are probably aware of this but hemp, from which CBD is derived, is already legal to grow at the federal level since the passing of the 2018 Farm Bill. 

It's expensive to establish but there is quite a bit of acreage popping up out this way.

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lol

okay

That doesn't happen in reality.

Used it since I was 16 and I only do the very best and I've been with hundreds upon hundreds of people who never have heard of such a thing.

You're perpetuating a falsehood that has pervaded our culture since the 40s... just stop.

Wow, stoners who justify their behavior and anecdotes as data. Totally legit.

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The only problem with weed is it's illegality. Big Pharma and a for profit prison system are the reason it remains that way. Get rid of the federal road blocks and the country would see a 80 billion dollar industry explode almost overnight. After taxation the FED would have to find new and improved ways to redistribute and waste all the tax cash.

In actual scientific controlled studies an individual was proven 6 times more likely to develop psychosis if he has consumed cannabis more than 50 times. Just what we need, another 2 million lunatics running around loose.

Scientific controlled studies by whom?
Long time smoker... recently quit using on and of my own free will without rehab or relapse or any issues.
Maintained a clean driving record and maintained the same job for close to 20 years.
Never had any issue with mental disease or psychotic episodes.

Where were these "studies" conducted. By whom were they conducted and to whom is now psychotic because of the studies?

We talking MKUltra type stuff? Or Pineapple Express Item 9 type stuff?

Lunatics? We have plenty of weed smokers out there. Legal ones, illegal ones... There isn't some mental health issue linked to marijuana.
Stop watching Reefer Madness like it's a documentary. Stop lying about stuff you know little to nothing about.

It's OK to not like it. It's even OK to not like the idea of it being legal or decriminalized.
But don't be a dummy.

What has been suggested is that minor children whose minds are still developing are "likely" to be more susceptible to mental disease "such as schizophrenia".
Nothing has be "proven" because there has been very little actual research into it.... because of the federal government.

The real reason isn't mental health (which alcohol is a far greater damage to, yet legal, everywhere). The reason lies in Big Pharma and their lobbyists. The textile industry and their lobbyists. And the private prison system in which the majority of occupants are non violent drug offenders.

Prescription drugs, alcohol, tobacco, all carry worse mental dependency than THC.
All carry physical dependency, in which THC has NONE. (Meaning there are no physical withdraw symptoms)
Caffeine and sugar are actually worse than THC in dependency issues. And sugar is more damaging to your body.

Good God... I respect people that have an abstaining personal view of THC. And it absolutely doesn't belong in the hands of minors (under 21, I say)
but the misinformation and straight lies about a substance that can help people medically cleaner and safer than opioids, can provide more paper than cutting down all the trees in the rainforest, also provides more O2 than most trees and also is a generally safer recreational drug than just about anything that can currently be legally consumed (smoking plant matter is still unhealthy for lungs and throat but vaporizing -not vaping liquids- and edibles are perfectly safe for adults to consume) is plain stupid.

"Stoners justify..."
Ya know wildly successful Bill Gates was a stoner.
Richard Branson, Ted Turner, Steve Jobs, Sergey Brin, Rick Steves.... plenty of successful billionaire CEOs haven't become mindless, violent, crazy psychopathic schizophrenics...

Idiots justify their narrow minded views with "facts" that aren't true ripped from the headlines of religious or uber conservative websites, magazines, and blogs.
With no real proof and no real scientific evidence you people attack an entire world of people while probably drinking your gin and tonic or smoking big fat cigars reading some version of the bible you believe to be the truth.
You just love believing lies.
Enjoy "heaven" you judgemental [BLEEP] hats.

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hunter must of purchased a rock pike of coke a cola stock in preparation for legalization of coke next

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“You may never know what results come of your actions, but if you do nothing, there will be no results.”
“If you find a way to motivate an idiot you have a motivated idiot”

Wow, stoners who justify their behavior and anecdotes as data. Totally legit.

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In actual scientific controlled studies an individual was proven 6 times more likely to develop psychosis if he has consumed cannabis more than 50 times. Just what we need, another 2 million lunatics running around loose.

Scientific controlled studies by whom?
Long time smoker... recently quit using on and of my own free will without rehab or relapse or any issues.
Maintained a clean driving record and maintained the same job for close to 20 years.
Never had any issue with mental disease or psychotic episodes.

Where were these "studies" conducted. By whom were they conducted and to whom is now psychotic because of the studies?

We talking MKUltra type stuff? Or Pineapple Express Item 9 type stuff?

Lunatics? We have plenty of weed smokers out there. Legal ones, illegal ones... There isn't some mental health issue linked to marijuana.
Stop watching Reefer Madness like it's a documentary. Stop lying about stuff you know little to nothing about.

It's OK to not like it. It's even OK to not like the idea of it being legal or decriminalized.
But don't be a dummy.

What has been suggested is that minor children whose minds are still developing are "likely" to be more susceptible to mental disease "such as schizophrenia".
Nothing has be "proven" because there has been very little actual research into it.... because of the federal government.

The real reason isn't mental health (which alcohol is a far greater damage to, yet legal, everywhere). The reason lies in Big Pharma and their lobbyists. The textile industry and their lobbyists. And the private prison system in which the majority of occupants are non violent drug offenders.

Prescription drugs, alcohol, tobacco, all carry worse mental dependency than THC.
All carry physical dependency, in which THC has NONE. (Meaning there are no physical withdraw symptoms)
Caffeine and sugar are actually worse than THC in dependency issues. And sugar is more damaging to your body.

Good God... I respect people that have an abstaining personal view of THC. And it absolutely doesn't belong in the hands of minors (under 21, I say)
but the misinformation and straight lies about a substance that can help people medically cleaner and safer than opioids, can provide more paper than cutting down all the trees in the rainforest, also provides more O2 than most trees and also is a generally safer recreational drug than just about anything that can currently be legally consumed (smoking plant matter is still unhealthy for lungs and throat but vaporizing -not vaping liquids- and edibles are perfectly safe for adults to consume) is plain stupid.

"Stoners justify..."
Ya know wildly successful Bill Gates was a stoner.
Richard Branson, Ted Turner, Steve Jobs, Sergey Brin, Rick Steves.... plenty of successful billionaire CEOs haven't become mindless, violent, crazy psychopathic schizophrenics...

Idiots justify their narrow minded views with "facts" that aren't true ripped from the headlines of religious or uber conservative websites, magazines, and blogs.
With no real proof and no real scientific evidence you people attack an entire world of people while probably drinking your gin and tonic or smoking big fat cigars reading some version of the bible you believe to be the truth.
You just love believing lies.
Enjoy "heaven" you judgemental [BLEEP] hats.

The Journal of Psychiatry, Clinical Toxicology, The British Journal of Psychiatry, The American Journal on Addictions, The Journal of Pediatric Neurology, Journal of Psychedelic Drugs, The Royal College of Sweden, The Canadian Psychiatric Association, Mayo Clinical Proceedings, and Journal of Forensic Science to name a few. 

Stupid idiot judgemental [BLEEP] hats that they are, clearly dont know what they are talking about like a bunch of users do. 

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

And more good news out today, scientists found a link between daily pot smoking and testicular cancer in men (sorry Trans Men, no balls no cancer). So if you want a better chance of getting tumors on the jewels then keep on a puffing!

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Scientific controlled studies by whom?
Long time smoker... recently quit using on and of my own free will without rehab or relapse or any issues.
Maintained a clean driving record and maintained the same job for close to 20 years.
Never had any issue with mental disease or psychotic episodes.

Where were these "studies" conducted. By whom were they conducted and to whom is now psychotic because of the studies?

We talking MKUltra type stuff? Or Pineapple Express Item 9 type stuff?

Lunatics? We have plenty of weed smokers out there. Legal ones, illegal ones... There isn't some mental health issue linked to marijuana.
Stop watching Reefer Madness like it's a documentary. Stop lying about stuff you know little to nothing about.

It's OK to not like it. It's even OK to not like the idea of it being legal or decriminalized.
But don't be a dummy.

What has been suggested is that minor children whose minds are still developing are "likely" to be more susceptible to mental disease "such as schizophrenia".
Nothing has be "proven" because there has been very little actual research into it.... because of the federal government.

The real reason isn't mental health (which alcohol is a far greater damage to, yet legal, everywhere). The reason lies in Big Pharma and their lobbyists. The textile industry and their lobbyists. And the private prison system in which the majority of occupants are non violent drug offenders.

Prescription drugs, alcohol, tobacco, all carry worse mental dependency than THC.
All carry physical dependency, in which THC has NONE. (Meaning there are no physical withdraw symptoms)
Caffeine and sugar are actually worse than THC in dependency issues. And sugar is more damaging to your body.

Good God... I respect people that have an abstaining personal view of THC. And it absolutely doesn't belong in the hands of minors (under 21, I say)
but the misinformation and straight lies about a substance that can help people medically cleaner and safer than opioids, can provide more paper than cutting down all the trees in the rainforest, also provides more O2 than most trees and also is a generally safer recreational drug than just about anything that can currently be legally consumed (smoking plant matter is still unhealthy for lungs and throat but vaporizing -not vaping liquids- and edibles are perfectly safe for adults to consume) is plain stupid.

"Stoners justify..."
Ya know wildly successful Bill Gates was a stoner.
Richard Branson, Ted Turner, Steve Jobs, Sergey Brin, Rick Steves.... plenty of successful billionaire CEOs haven't become mindless, violent, crazy psychopathic schizophrenics...

Idiots justify their narrow minded views with "facts" that aren't true ripped from the headlines of religious or uber conservative websites, magazines, and blogs.
With no real proof and no real scientific evidence you people attack an entire world of people while probably drinking your gin and tonic or smoking big fat cigars reading some version of the bible you believe to be the truth.
You just love believing lies.
Enjoy "heaven" you judgemental [BLEEP] hats.

The Journal of Psychiatry, Clinical Toxicology, The British Journal of Psychiatry, The American Journal on Addictions, The Journal of Pediatric Neurology, Journal of Psychedelic Drugs, The Royal College of Sweden, The Canadian Psychiatric Association, Mayo Clinical Proceedings, and Journal of Forensic Science to name a few. 

Stupid idiot judgemental [BLEEP] hats that they are, clearly dont know what they are talking about like a bunch of users do. 

You didn't provide any links to studies just named a bunch of sources of information many of which would be very biased considering what the medical community has to lose if THC and CBD were to replace many harmful Rx drugs.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre...rs-science

Here's a nice article written by a professor of psychology and neuroscience  basically dismissing recent claims to what you assert...
correlation is not causation.

"bunch of users" what a dolt.
Bet your addicted to something as a user of sugar, caffeine, alcohol, television... internet... etc etc.

All of which (especially your obsession with talking to strangers thru a computer screen) is much more a mental disease than anything THC could bring you.

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The Journal of Psychiatry, Clinical Toxicology, The British Journal of Psychiatry, The American Journal on Addictions, The Journal of Pediatric Neurology, Journal of Psychedelic Drugs, The Royal College of Sweden, The Canadian Psychiatric Association, Mayo Clinical Proceedings, and Journal of Forensic Science to name a few. 

Stupid idiot judgemental [BLEEP] hats that they are, clearly dont know what they are talking about like a bunch of users do. 

You didn't provide any links to studies just named a bunch of sources of information many of which would be very biased considering what the medical community has to lose if THC and CBD were to replace many harmful Rx drugs.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre...rs-science

Here's a nice article written by a professor of psychology and neuroscience  basically dismissing recent claims to what you assert...
correlation is not causation.

"bunch of users" what a dolt.
Bet your addicted to something as a user of sugar, caffeine, alcohol, television... internet... etc etc.

All of which (especially your obsession with talking to strangers thru a computer screen) is much more a mental disease than anything THC could bring you.

Yes, yes, I know. Science and whatnot... 

Do you stop to consider how your rapid and urgent defense of your behavior makes you seem to be an addict? As I said above, I've used pretty much anything you can think of, and I'm not saying you can't do it if you want. I don't think vice of any type should be a crime.  What I do know is that the behavior has inherent risks that should be considered, not dismissed, especially if we intend to legalize it.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Let's just remove it from a Schedule 1 Classification shall we?

In no rational persons mind is weed even close to as bad on a physical or social level than heroin or crack.

Heck, I'd even argue that the effects of tequila present more danger.  You can go from the happiest person in the bar after 3 or 4 shots, to wanting to kick everybody's [BLEEP] after taking a few additional shots.

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