He's not succeeded, but let's not act we didn't go through Gene Smith immediately before him.

Caldwell has missed a lot of picks, but Gene Smith makes him look like a draft genius by comparison.

Genes record was 22-42 with 4 seasons.
Dave's record is 36-76 with 7 seasons.

It is clear who the worst GM in our franchise history is, and it actually isn't even close.

Shhh you’ll upset the snowflakes. No one wants to admit just how bad Caldwell’s been

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Genes record was 22-42 with 4 seasons.
Dave's record is 36-76 with 7 seasons.

It is clear who the worst GM in our franchise history is, and it actually isn't even close.

Shhh you’ll upset the snowflakes. No one wants to admit just how bad Caldwell’s been

I don't think we're saying Caldwell hasn't been bad, but to say he's worse than Gene is laughable.

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if jags keep doug as head coach then expect another loseing season next year.

Looks like it isn't "if",  it's after 2pm and no personnel changes.

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if jags keep doug as head coach then expect another loseing season next year.

Looks like it isn't "if",  it's after 2pm and no personnel changes.

Hw said it would be mid week.

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I think the most depressing thing I've seen is our 6-10 record is our 3rd best this decade.

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Midweek review is to soften the blow that TC is it for changes. Big nothing just like the team.

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Birth of the Franchise - November 30, 1993
Death of the Franchise - November 29, 2011

Fans deserve better. Thanks for all the good times too many are in the past.

Shhh you’ll upset the snowflakes. No one wants to admit just how bad Caldwell’s been

I don't think we're saying Caldwell hasn't been bad, but to say he's worse than Gene is laughable.

Gene's roster building was the reason for Caldwell's roster destruction and his attempt at reconstruction. Gene Smith inherited a fairly OK roster to build upon. Caldwell inherited possibly one of the worst rosters ever.
Caldwell did much better than Gene Smith at just about every phase of it. And was still not good. Which speaks to how poorly Gene Smith did imo.

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I'd be okay with him keeping both, actually. There's no denying that the players like Marrone, and they played as well as you can expect them to with their limitations the last few weeks. That shows that he's doing his job. Caldwell has done okay to this point. But, howuch is that Coughlin, and how much was Coughlin stepping on his toes?

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I don't think we're saying Caldwell hasn't been bad, but to say he's worse than Gene is laughable.

Gene's roster building was the reason for Caldwell's roster destruction and his attempt at reconstruction. Gene Smith inherited a fairly OK roster to build upon. Caldwell inherited possibly one of the worst rosters ever.
Caldwell did much better than Gene Smith at just about every phase of it. And was still not good. Which speaks to how poorly Gene Smith did imo.

Well said.

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Schefter reporting Marrone and Co will meet with Ownership tomorrow AM

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I don't think we're saying Caldwell hasn't been bad, but to say he's worse than Gene is laughable.

Gene's roster building was the reason for Caldwell's roster destruction and his attempt at reconstruction. Gene Smith inherited a fairly OK roster to build upon. Caldwell inherited possibly one of the worst rosters ever.
Caldwell did much better than Gene Smith at just about every phase of it. And was still not good. Which speaks to how poorly Gene Smith did imo.

Exactly. Caldwell hasn't been good enough, but Gene Smith was a disaster. I want to see a clean sweep of the front office but I'm not under a delusion about how bad he is compared to the worst we've had.

The biggest problem with Caldwell was he's a needs drafter, so he consistently drafted bad players early to fill depth charts spots and didn't draft better players in subsequent years because we already had someone playing their position (poorly).

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No coach is getting fired on Thursday. Marrone is here to stay for the long haul.

He will probably fire Todd Wash and everything will be rainbows and sherbert.

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No coach is getting fired on Thursday. Marrone is here to stay for the long haul.

He will probably fire Todd Wash and everything will be rainbows and sherbert.

Good thing they are meeting on Tuesday then.

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No coach is getting fired on Thursday. Marrone is here to stay for the long haul.

He will probably fire Todd Wash and everything will be rainbows and sherbert.

Good thing they are meeting on Tuesday then.

1010 said Thursday.

If coach is getting fired, it is today.

I want this as much as you do, but it ain't happening. Our owner is inept.

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Jags apparently don't like the candidates available to them. Meaning not many people want to come here , which is expected.

I'd say I'm back at 8O% sure Doug is staying

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Jags apparently don't like the candidates available to them.  Meaning not many people want to come here , which is expected.

I'd say I'm back at 8O% sure Doug is staying

Any reports/verified tweets on that?

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Jags apparently don't like the candidates available to them.  Meaning not many people want to come here , which is expected.

I'd say I'm back at 8O% sure Doug is staying

Any reports/verified tweets on that?

This. I would like to see a legitimate source. A team coming off it's 7th double digit loss in 8 years shouldn't be in any position to be too picky.

Now. If JackCity is implying that some of the candidates probably wouldn't want this job to begin with.

It's hard to argue that. There's better job openings. I would take Dallas, Washington or New York over Jacksonville. Strictly on legacy and historical reasons. It's a job and location with more prestige.

Carolina and Cleveland I would probably avoid though just because of the QB situations there alone and ownership. I think you have a lot to address between the Newton / Allen situation and Mayfield situation on those teams.

Jacksonville at least has some promise in Minshew. Foles can be given a pass with that injury. He was rushed back out there. It cost the team dearly midseason. That's not on Foles. That's on the front office and coaching staff.

I hate to say it. But after mulling over it this morning. It sadly makes sense to ride it out with Marrone from Khan's perspective. I may not agree with it. I would prefer to see a significant effort made at interviewing DC's and OC's from a number of these play off teams this year.

But it makes sense now. Coughlin will be the scapegoat. Marrone and Caldwell need to send him a gift basket for buying them another year. They either sink or swim in 2020. And that schedule on paper already looks brutal enough.

Hopefully they make the best of 2020's draft selections. The only way I see them making it after 2020 is with a serious play off berth or run.

I expect tomorrow's announcement to fall along the lines of Marrone staying with coaching staff changes on defense and Caldwell resuming more of a final say on personnel decisions with Khan Jr. overseeing some of that with more of Marrone's input and insight.

Coughlin is the scapegoat though. Apparently he was so terrible and such a tyrant that it directly impacted Marrone's ability to coach so that's why Foles started midseason, the penalties were high due to lack of focus in fear of peeping Tom saying something after practice, etc.

Can't wait.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

Jags apparently don't like the candidates available to them.  Meaning not many people want to come here , which is expected.

I'd say I'm back at 8O% sure Doug is staying

Any reports/verified tweets on that?

Mort reported it on air

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No coach is getting fired on Thursday. Marrone is here to stay for the long haul.

He will probably fire Todd Wash and everything will be rainbows and sherbert.

He better fire Warhop too. He's every bit as bad.

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I have a hunch that the reason for the delay in a decision is to give Khan time to see what his options on the open market are. Marrone and Caldwell are both good enough to give a post-Coughlin shot to, but not so good as to be untouchable. If Khan finds guys out there that he likes more than the prospect of giving those two another chance, bye. If he doesn't, they both get a one-year stay of execution to see what they can do.

You could make the argument (and I'd say successfully) that if you don't think those are your guys moving forward, you dump them immediately to give the new GM the full benefit of the Ramsey picks.

I think you are giving Khan too much credit. I'm not sure he knows what the hell he is doing.

I also think Tony is going to take on a larger role on the personnel side, which should scare the [BLEEP] out of everyone.

He is too swayed by rah rah speeches and emotions. He needs to recognize nothing is changing.

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No coach is getting fired on Thursday. Marrone is here to stay for the long haul.

He will probably fire Todd Wash and everything will be rainbows and sherbert.

He better fire Warhop too. He's every bit as bad.

At a minimum, Wash and Warhop have to go.  I could deal with keeping Marrone.  I like the guy.  He's a solid coach who belongs in the league and I remember what a breath of fresh air he was after Gus.  But Khan has to throw us some hope!

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Fix the O-Line!