I thought it'd be fun to review some of the best QB's in the NFL College Scouting reports and compare them to this years top QB prospects, below is Aaron Rodgers via Scouts Inc, enjoy.

 

(QB) Aaron Rodgers - CALIFORNIA (6'2", 223, 4.71)

Strengths: He has outstanding arm strength. Has one of the strongest arms in this year's quarterback class. Shows the ability to make all the necessary throws in the NFL. Has great zip on his deep out route and shows the ability to fit the ball into tight spots. He has terrific fundamentals and mechanics. Also has very good touch and timing. Shows the consistent ability to lay the ball in between the linebackers and safeties in coverage. Impressive deep accuracy. Will also show the ability to take some velocity off of his underneath throws. He is poised in the pocket and isn't afraid to wait until the last possible second to deliver the ball while taking a blow. He gets set quickly and does a fine job of seeing the entire field. His ability to make progression reads and look off receivers has improved greatly to the point where he is among the elite in this class in those facets. He has terrific awareness in the pocket. Lacks prototypical quarterback size. He shows adequate quickness in the pocket and the ability to buy many second chances with his awareness and feet. Is a tough quarterback with good leadership skills and no character concerns. Coaches speak very highly of him in terms of his character and work ethic.


Weaknesses: Has adequate but not ideal size. Has good scrambling quickness within the pocket but he is not, however, a threat to take off and run on a consistent basis. Late-bloomer; only two years at the major collegiate level. A product of the system? A good percentage of his passing yards come from short throws that are turned into long runs. Durability is a minor concern after 2004 knee surgery.


Overall: Rodgers is a late-bloomer who took the junior college (Butte) route out of high school before signing with Cal prior to the 2003 season. He did not take over as Cal's starter in 2003 until the fifth game of the season against Illinois but wound up leading the team to a 7-3 record as its starter. He completed 61.6 percent of his passes (215-of-349) for 2,903 yards, 19 touchdowns and only five interceptions in 13 games played in 2003, while also setting a school record for passing yards and completions in the 2003 Insight Bowl. Earlier in his career, Rodgers has had some problems with ball security and made too many mistakes in when in the red zone. There also was a minor durability issue after he had arthroscopic surgery on his left knee during the offseason prior to the 2004 CFB season. However, Rodgers bounced back from the surgery with no ill-effects, had another tremendously productive season as a senior (67.5-percent, 2,320 yards with 23 TD's and seven INT's) and significantly cut down on his turnovers and red zone miscues. Rodgers doesn't have great size and he could stand to get stronger, but he did measure in at 6-2, 223 pounds at the combine, which is at least adequate. There has to be a minor concern regarding the wide-open quarterback friendly system that Rodgers played in at Cal, as it makes reads easier on quarterbacks and it also balloons their numbers with a lot of short passes that are turned into long gains. Jeff Tedford is, however, an excellent quarterback groomer and he has done a terrific job with Rodgers' mechanics. With two full years of starting experience under Tedford, Rodgers should be better prepared for the NFL than most other quarterbacks in this class. Many of Rodgers' attempts in college were underneath, but there is no denying his arm strength and there is certainly no denying his accuracy and game-management skills. In our opinion, Rodgers is the most complete quarterback in the 2005 draft class and he should be the first overall quarterback taken likely somewhere in the top-five. -Scouts Grade 99/100. -Scouts Inc. 


 

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If you asked me, Aaron Rodgers 2005 Scouting Report compares favorably to Derek Carr in terms of fundamentals, arm strength, and the system he played in, thoughts?

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If you asked me, Aaron Rodgers 2005 Scouting Report compares favorably to Derek Carr in terms of fundamentals, arm strength, and the system he played in, thoughts?

Very similar 

 

Caveat:

 

" Will also show the ability to take some velocity off of his underneath throws. He is poised in the pocket and isn't afraid to wait until the last possible second to deliver the ball while taking a blow. He gets set quickly and does a fine job of seeing the entire field. His ability to make progression reads and look off receivers has improved greatly to the point where he is among the elite in this class in those facets. He has terrific awareness in the pocket."

 

 

None of that Carr has

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Very similar 

 

Caveat:

 

" Will also show the ability to take some velocity off of his underneath throws. He is poised in the pocket and isn't afraid to wait until the last possible second to deliver the ball while taking a blow. He gets set quickly and does a fine job of seeing the entire field. His ability to make progression reads and look off receivers has improved greatly to the point where he is among the elite in this class in those facets. He has terrific awareness in the pocket."

 

 

None of that Carr has

 

 

Carr does a decent job going through his progressions, the difference is Aaron Rodgers displayed ubelievable poise in a muddied pocket, and his pocket movement was outstanding, traits that are currently showing up in Green Bay. Arod had the physical gifts of Carr, but the intangibles of Teddy Bridgewater.

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Carr does a decent job going through his progressions, the difference is Aaron Rodgers displayed ubelievable poise in a muddied pocket, and his pocket movement was outstanding, traits that are currently showing up in Green Bay. Arod had the physical gifts of Carr, but the intangibles of Teddy Bridgewater.

He plays in the spread, no progressions there. However he has played in the pro style offense before, I haven't seen the film on that though

 

If you could fuse Bridgewater and Carr, we would have no chance at him

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He plays in the spread, no progressions there. However he has played in the pro style offense before, I haven't seen the film on that though

 

If you could fuse Bridgewater and Carr, we would have no chance at him

 

 

Arod played in a similar offense at Cal, at the end of the day I'm not too concerned about it. Carr was productive in both a spread and pro-style offense at Fresno St, so he clearly has a high football IQ and could perform in any offense. I'm more concerned about his pocket awareness, pocket movement, and overall poise in a muddied pocket, there weren't too many instances this year where he had to make decisions under duress, this is why I would give the nod to Teddy Bridgewater, but Carr (because of the howitzer of an arm) has the bigger upside. I think both guys will turn into solid franchise QB's, with Bridgewater making an immediate impact because he's more pro-ready. 

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Arod played in a similar offense at Cal, at the end of the day I'm not too concerned about it. Carr was productive in both a spread and pro-style offense at Fresno St, so he clearly has a high football IQ and could perform in any offense. I'm more concerned about his pocket awareness, pocket movement, and overall poise in a muddied pocket, there weren't too many instances this year where he had to make decisions under duress, this is why I would give the nod to Teddy Bridgewater, but Carr (because of the howitzer of an arm) has the bigger upside. I think both guys will turn into solid franchise QB's, with Bridgewater making an immediate impact because he's more pro-ready. 

Remember A-Rod got a couple years to marinate on the bench.

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He was really hurt by Kyle Boller's failure. 

 

That scouting report is similar to Carr except Rodgers had great pocket awareness.  Carr doesnt.  Thats a huge red flag.

 

I think his report reads somewhat similar to Bridgewater as well.  Biggest red flag is lack of size.  I think Rodgers was bigger but we'll see what Bridgewater measures out at.  Could be similar numbers.  But Rodgers looked like he could build out on his frame.  Bridgewater doesnt.  He is so wispy thin looking.  Has a small looking frame.  A key difference between the two their scouting reports though is arm strength.  Rodgers had/has a gun.  Bridgewater's arm is good enough but it doesnt stand out as elite.  Nothing about Bridgewater stands out as elite.  He is just good across the board for the most part... except for looking like a WR playing QB.

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Scouting well is all that matters.  Draft philosophy is all fluff.

So much focus on size for a QB. Smh

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So much focus on size for a QB. Smh

 

well most successful QBs have been taller and bigger so it stands to reason people look for that.

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Scouting well is all that matters.  Draft philosophy is all fluff.

Bridgewater doesn't have Rodgers' arm strength.

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<p style="text-align:center;">But that same man can get lost in the sauce."

Bridgewater doesn't have Rodgers' arm strength.

That is true. How about Carr? They mentioned earlier fusing Carr's strong points with Bridgewater's and you'd have a guy comparable to Rodgers.

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Nothing about Bridgewater stands out as elite

This isn't true. His short to intermediate accuracy stand out at an elite level. As does his pocket presence and movement skills in and outside of it.

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well most successful QBs have been taller and bigger so it stands to reason people look for that.

Height has nothing to do with throwing a football and decision making.


There have been even more bad QBs who were tall. So I feel like its bad logic to assume that height was a factor for any successful QB.

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If you asked me, Aaron Rodgers 2005 Scouting Report compares favorably to Derek Carr in terms of fundamentals, arm strength, and the system he played in, thoughts?

 

What you mentioned certainly makes sense.  Derek Carr had the opportunity to work with Aaron Rodgers'  college coach,   Jeff Tedford,  in part of the 2013 season.  Tedford has known Derek Carr since the latter was 6,  through his older brother David Carr:

 

http://www.tampabay.com/sports/football/...rd/2161972

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Well, I guess you have to wonder if the posket presence is fixable. It certainly doesn't appear to be with Gabbert. But Carr might be different. But remember the same reason Rodgers got drafted late are there for Carr. Namely that Tedford coached up some not good NFL QB's like Boller, David Carr, Aliki Smith, Trent Dilfer, and Joey Harrington. There is no doubt that Tedford is a good QB coach, but he can make some bad players look good. So if we are crafting Carr based on Tedford, I would be wary...

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Peyton must store oxygen in that forehead of his. No way I'd still be alive after all that choking.

 

Well, I guess you have to wonder if the posket presence is fixable. It certainly doesn't appear to be with Gabbert. But Carr might be different. But remember the same reason Rodgers got drafted late are there for Carr. Namely that Tedford coached up some not good NFL QB's like Boller, David Carr, Aliki Smith, Trent Dilfer, and Joey Harrington. There is no doubt that Tedford is a good QB coach, but he can make some bad players look good. So if we are crafting Carr based on Tedford, I would be wary...

Unfortunately if pocket presence could be fixed, we would be seeing some positives in Gabbert

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Unfortunately if pocket presence could be fixed, we would be seeing some positives in Gabbert

 

Is this pocket presence?

 



 

Looks like a sack safety relating to an inability to read the obvious blitz peril in pre-snap.

 

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Well, I guess you have to wonder if the posket presence is fixable. It certainly doesn't appear to be with Gabbert. But Carr might be different. But remember the same reason Rodgers got drafted late are there for Carr. Namely that Tedford coached up some not good NFL QB's like Boller, David Carr, Aliki Smith, Trent Dilfer, and Joey Harrington. There is no doubt that Tedford is a good QB coach, but he can make some bad players look good. So if we are crafting Carr based on Tedford, I would be wary...

 

I agree.

 

I don't understand the love for Tedford.

 

Other than Aaron Rodgers, his QBs have all been pretty unremarkable, and most downright awful in the NFL.  Unless I'm mistaken, Rodgers is the only one of them allowed to sit and learn the NFL game before being thrown to the wolves, too.

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Is this pocket presence?

 

Looks like a sack safety to me.

 

 

Give him a break.  He did try to throw the ball away backhanded while rolling upside down.

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