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Jacksonville losing 2 home games in 2020 to London


(02-18-2020, 02:38 PM)Andy G Wrote: Same old "nudge nudge" journalism in that Sports Illustrated piece - "the Jags say they're not moving, but we all know they're going to".  

And don't tell me other NFL teams don't want to play in London.

In the seven years since the Jaguars started playing in London, the Rams, Dolphins and Raiders have all played here three times (all of them as the home side on two of those occasions) and the Rams and Dolphins each hosted another game before 2013.

The games always sell out, meaning lots of money for the home teams.  And there aren't many owners who will turn down extra money.
We can rule out most of those teams from a London move though. Two have brand new stadiums, and the other isn't playing two home games there. 

It's really just down to the Jags and chargers if a team is ever to move there eventually, and the Jags are in pole position until they aren't
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The ideal would be having 50,000 season ticket holders in Jax and 50,000 to 60,000 season ticket holders in London. This would dwarf every other team's base.
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(02-18-2020, 04:37 PM)Byron LeftTown Wrote: The ideal would be having 50,000 season ticket holders in Jax and 50,000 to 60,000 season ticket holders in London.  This would dwarf every other team's base.

neither of those numbers can co exist, and the London one isn't even a reality on its own
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(02-18-2020, 04:37 PM)Byron LeftTown Wrote: The ideal would be having 50,000 season ticket holders in Jax and 50,000 to 60,000 season ticket holders in London.  This would dwarf every other team's base.

Getting people to commit to a part-time team in those numbers in either city seems highly unlikely.  The NFL is a novelty in London, so people go for the opportunity to see the NFL.  Not the Jaguars.  If the Jaguars moved half their games there, or even all of them, that season ticket base of people willing to go watch the garbage we've had to endure over the past 20 years will be microscopic.  American football is nothing more than a curiousity in London.  It pulls in expats who are fans of every team in the league, and the looky lous who just want to see a game.  When that wears off, and the reality sinks in, fans will find better things to do with their time.
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(02-18-2020, 06:21 PM)FBT Wrote:
(02-18-2020, 04:37 PM)Byron LeftTown Wrote: The ideal would be having 50,000 season ticket holders in Jax and 50,000 to 60,000 season ticket holders in London.  This would dwarf every other team's base.

Getting people to commit to a part-time team in those numbers in either city seems highly unlikely.  The NFL is a novelty in London, so people go for the opportunity to see the NFL.  Not the Jaguars.  If the Jaguars moved half their games there, or even all of them, that season ticket base of people willing to go watch the garbage we've had to endure over the past 20 years will be microscopic.  American football is nothing more than a curiousity in London.  It pulls in expats who are fans of every team in the league, and the looky lous who just want to see a game.  When that wears off, and the reality sinks in, fans will find better things to do with their time.

Agreed.  It's only the most loyal of Jags fans who continue to put up with the garbage on the field.  The Jags move to London and continue to have double-digit losses year after year and the London fans will bail out on them.
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Before we begin... a quick note... Now, I realize that there are many obstacles in trying to make billions from a “small market team.” But, that is ok.

1a. First, just throw your home city a bone and distract it while you try to over come every obstacle you can. I.e. Make your hometown build you an amphitheater and renovate its stadium. This will help you bring in as much money as you can while you slowly wait out your city’s stadium lease...

2. Make sure you park your yacht in the best parking spot, makes for a quick exit!!!

3. Blame the city at all possible costs... i.e the stadium
is not modern etc...

4. Run franchise players out of town ASAP!

5. Lose as many games as possible, literally year after year while you wait for the stadium’s lease to expire.

6. Try to buy a stadium in the city you want to move to, but say it will help your old city lol. Even if people come out and say you are trying to move the team with this purchase, make sure you deny deny deny!!!

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(02-18-2020, 04:37 PM)Byron LeftTown Wrote: The ideal would be having 50,000 season ticket holders in Jax and 50,000 to 60,000 season ticket holders in London.  This would dwarf every other team's base.

Assuming an equal number of games in each location, that would simply average 52,500 (conventional, eight regular-season home game) season ticket holders.
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Shad would have received so much less blowback if he would have simply waited for this CBA to be announced and then say that the 17th game would be in London instead of doing it the way they did. Get a new PR guy Shad.
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(02-26-2020, 11:25 AM)Upper Wrote: Shad would have received so much less blowback if he would have simply waited for this CBA to be announced and then say that the 17th game would be in London instead of doing it the way they did. Get a new PR guy Shad.

Yep.  

Now he'll have to implement some minor campaign to bring back to the fold those he's alienated that don't realize the implications of the added league-wide game.
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(02-18-2020, 04:37 PM)Byron LeftTown Wrote: The ideal would be having 50,000 season ticket holders in Jax and 50,000 to 60,000 season ticket holders in London.  This would dwarf every other team's base.

Lol ... we could claim that we have over 100,000 season ticket members.  Talk about bragging rights over the Pats and Steelers !!!
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(02-26-2020, 11:25 AM)Upper Wrote: Shad would have received so much less blowback if he would have simply waited for this CBA to be announced and then say that the 17th game would be in London instead of doing it the way they did. Get a new PR guy Shad.

Except the 17th game doesn't begin until a season after that second game was lost.
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(02-26-2020, 11:25 AM)Upper Wrote: Shad would have received so much less blowback if he would have simply waited for this CBA to be announced and then say that the 17th game would be in London instead of doing it the way they did. Get a new PR guy Shad.

Not sure how viable a proposition that would be for at least a couple of reasons.

1.  The 17th game is supposedly a "neutral site game."  If so, London isn't a neutral site for the Jaguars.  The league enables the Jaguars to use the London games as home games.

2.  If the stuff about the additional playoff team & game comes to fruition under this new CBA, having the 17th game in London would put any playoff team traveling there at a competitive disadvantage unless they were the one team to earn home field advantage and the bye the next week.  But there would be no way to know this until very late, if at all, when the schedule is released in April.
 

Worst to 1st.  Curse Reversed!





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(02-28-2020, 11:07 PM)Bullseye Wrote:
(02-26-2020, 11:25 AM)Upper Wrote: Shad would have received so much less blowback if he would have simply waited for this CBA to be announced and then say that the 17th game would be in London instead of doing it the way they did. Get a new PR guy Shad.

Not sure how viable a proposition that would be for at least a couple of reasons.

1.  The 17th game is supposedly a "neutral site game."  If so, London isn't a neutral site for the Jaguars.  The league enables the Jaguars to use the London games as home games.

2.  If the stuff about the additional playoff team & game comes to fruition under this new CBA, having the 17th game in London would put any playoff team traveling there at a competitive disadvantage unless they were the one team to earn home field advantage and the bye the next week.  But there would be no way to know this until very late, if at all, when the schedule is released in April.

The 17th game doesn't mean 17th week. The Jags two London games will likely be back to back mid season followed by a bye
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(02-28-2020, 11:11 PM)JackCity Wrote:
(02-28-2020, 11:07 PM)Bullseye Wrote: Not sure how viable a proposition that would be for at least a couple of reasons.

1.  The 17th game is supposedly a "neutral site game."  If so, London isn't a neutral site for the Jaguars.  The league enables the Jaguars to use the London games as home games.

2.  If the stuff about the additional playoff team & game comes to fruition under this new CBA, having the 17th game in London would put any playoff team traveling there at a competitive disadvantage unless they were the one team to earn home field advantage and the bye the next week.  But there would be no way to know this until very late, if at all, when the schedule is released in April.

The 17th game doesn't mean 17th week. The Jags two London games will likely be back to back mid season followed by a bye
1.  Actually, the 17th game (if added) would be the 18th week when you factor in the one bye teams get.

2.  I know the talk is for the London games to be back to back.  I was referring to the post asserting Khan could have announced the week 17 (or week 18) game to be the second London game.
 

Worst to 1st.  Curse Reversed!





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(02-28-2020, 11:25 PM)Bullseye Wrote:
(02-28-2020, 11:11 PM)JackCity Wrote:
The 17th game doesn't mean 17th week. The Jags two London games will likely be back to back mid season followed by a bye
1.  Actually, the 17th game (if added) would be the 18th week when you factor in the one bye teams get.

2.  I know the talk is for the London games to be back to back.  I was referring to the post asserting Khan could have announced the week 17 (or week 18) game to be the second London game.

I think he means the 17th game being the extra game, not the 17th game as in the last game of the year
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Wow, knew this would happened eventually but still shocked.

This franchise died when Gabbert was drafted.

By the end of this decade, Jacksonville Jaguars will be but a fond memory. A team that shined bright fast but couldn't hold the flame. The flame turned into an eternal dumpster fire.

I will always cherish the memories from great players such as Freddy T and Mojos 375 Yard crusher against Indy; Rasheen's countless interceptions against the Steelers; Scobee's 60 Yard Colt Killer. Garrard's 20 yard 4th down run in the Steelers' playoff snow. The list goes on and on..

Now the only memories being made are about how none of the good players want to play for jacksonville...

Keep on chopping wood
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(03-02-2020, 11:03 PM)tyus Wrote: Wow, knew this would happened eventually but still shocked.

This franchise died when Gabbert was drafted.

By the end of this decade, Jacksonville Jaguars will be but a fond memory. A team that shined bright fast but couldn't hold the flame. The flame turned into an eternal dumpster fire.

I will always cherish the memories from great players such as Freddy T and Mojos 375 Yard crusher against Indy; Rasheen's countless interceptions against the Steelers; Scobee's 60 Yard Colt Killer. Garrard's 20 yard 4th down run in the Steelers' playoff snow. The list goes on and on..

Now the only memories being made are about how none of the good players want to play for jacksonville...

Keep on chopping wood

According to PFT the new CBA will limit teams to a maximum of 3 games out of country a year till 2025. So I guess we have a longer time with the jags then I thought. It would be very interesting if the cba turned out to be the thing that keeps the jaguars in Jacksonville


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(02-26-2020, 11:25 AM)Upper Wrote: Shad would have received so much less blowback if he would have simply waited for this CBA to be announced and then say that the 17th game would be in London instead of doing it the way they did. Get a new PR guy Shad.

This guy?

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