While Thomas did "win" most of the day...Chaisson still had a strip sack and pressures against Thomas that game.  I can find a 40 sec video of just those few plays and paint a picture that Chaisson dominated Thomas.

If one of those plays was the one where Thomas supposedly 'pushed him to the ground'...it sure appeared to me that he had slipped before Thomas ever got his hands on him.  Then again, I'm not sure if that's the play whoever it was, was referring to.

I was expecting something way worse after those comments.

Meh, that video doesn't mean much to me.

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"Treyvon Wallet is elite run defender and better overall than Aidan Hutchinson" 11/11/23

Much better clip that includes all of the reps.

https://twitter.com/PFF_AustinGayle/stat...l-draft%2F

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Much better clip that includes all of the reps.

https://twitter.com/PFF_AustinGayle/stat...l-draft%2F

It must be missing the part where Thomas "shoved his face into the dirt every play".....

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Much better clip that includes all of the reps.

https://twitter.com/PFF_AustinGayle/stat...l-draft%2F

It must be missing the part where Thomas "shoved his face into the dirt every play".....

When he did go down, almost every time it was due to bad footing.

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Much better clip that includes all of the reps.

https://twitter.com/PFF_AustinGayle/stat...l-draft%2F

Remember seeing this couple weeks ago. Thought it was sort of one-sided tape, you can see Chaisson slipping alot, but Thomas did own him in the clips. I do like the motor, I think in a 3-4 which is where it seems like we are going Chaisson will be good in that.

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Breaking Down Jaguars' Rookie Edge Rusher K'Lavon Chaisson's College Production

When the Jacksonville Jaguars selected LSU defensive end/outside linebacker K'Lavon Chaisson with the No. 20 overall pick in last month's NFL Draft, they made a major investment into a position which has become the driving force of their defense for the last several years. 

In Chaisson, who many draft analysts projected to be the No. 2 pass-rusher behind Ohio State's Chase Young, the Jaguars took a roll of the dice on a young, athletic, and still developing edge player. The Jaguars needed to prioritize their pass-rush due to the uncertain future of defensive end Yannick Ngakoue, and in drafting Chaisson they made a call for both the present and the future. 

Even if Ngakoue plays for the Jaguars in 2020, which is unlikely at best, Chaisson will still figure to play a big role in the Jaguars' defense. Second-year pass-rusher Josh Allen needs a running mate, while the team may even be overhauling their defensive scheme and changing to a 3-4 base unit, which would require a player with a skill set like Chaisson's.

https://twitter.com/BenFennell_NFL/status/1220425591855439872

But Chaisson didn't enter the draft without potential question marks. While the Jaguars have lauded his versatility, leadership, ability to set the edge, and obviously his pass-rush prowess, there are still some obstacles Chaisson will have to clear in his pursuit of a productive NFL career. 

The primary knock on Chaisson as he entered the draft? A track record of production at LSU that didn't scream dominance. In three seasons (26 career games), Chaisson recorded 92 tackles, 19.0 tackles for loss and 9.5 sacks. These aren't exactly figures that jump off the page, especially in comparison to Allen's career at Kentucky (41 tackles for loss, 31.5 sacks). 

Some context is of course needed. For starters, Chaisson suffered a torn ACL after just one game in his sophomore season in 2018. This not only kept him off the field for a year, leading to a medical redshirt, but forced him into a recovery process. Then in 2019, the athletic defensive end missed a few games with an ankle injury, once again sapping him of chances to produce. 

But even following a string of injuries, Chaisson's 2019 season was clearly the peak of his time with the Tigers. He led the eventual national champions in sacks and tackles for loss, and came up big in some of LSU's most important games. 

2017: 27 tackles, 4.5 tackles for loss, two sacks. 

2018: Five tackles, one tackle for loss, one sack. 

2019: 60 tackles, 13.5 tackles for loss, 6.5 sacks. 

With Chaisson's shaky track record of production in mind, we opted to take a look at when Chaisson did produce and against which teams. With this said, it should be kept in mind that many of Chaisson's best plays didn't end up on a stat sheet, such as the National Championship game vs. Clemson in which he didn't record a sack but made Trevor Lawrence's life a nightmare for four quarters.

https://twitter.com/RussNFLDraft/status/...3887137792

When taking a look at Chaisson's college production, we consider which teams he produced against, the atmospheres in which he played his best in, and more. 

For instance, here are Chaisson's stats when evaluating when he played at home at LSU, when he was at an opponent's stadium, and when he was on a neutral field such as during postseason games. These splits are all courtesy of College Football Reference. 

At LSU (12 games): 49 tackles, 10.5 tackles for loss and 4.5 sacks.

At opponent stadiums (8 games): 21 tackles, 4.5 tackles for loss, and one sack.

At neutral fields (6 games): 22 tackles, four tackles for loss, four sacks. 

Since Chaisson played his college games at LSU more often times than not, it is understandable for his home splits to be so much better than his road splits. With that said, it is a bit jarring how much more productive Chaisson was when playing on a neutral field in comparison to when he played at other opponent's home field. 

This could be a positive in a way, however. Neutral field games typically indicate a game of high importance such as a conference championship game, College Football Playoff, or National Championship.

For context, Chaisson's neutral field games included games vs. Georgia (SEC Conference Championship), Oklahoma (playoff semi-finals), and Clemson (National Championship game).

What about how Chaisson's numbers look when you compare them against the competition he played? Did he perform well vs. better competition, or feast on the bottom-tier of LSU's schedule? 

Luckily for the Jaguars, Chaisson's best games came in his biggest moments. In his career, Chaisson recorded sacks vs. seven opponents, with most of them being above-average to great teams. Below is the list of Chaisson's sacks by the opponent to put his level of competition play into context, as well as his overall stats vs. each conference. 

By conference: 

Vs. SEC: 51 tackles, 11.5 tackles for loss, 3.5 sacks. 

Vs. Big 12: 11 tackles, three tackles for loss, three sacks. 

Vs. ACC: 11 tackles, 1.5 tackes for loss, one sack. 

Vs. Sun Belt: 9 tackles, 0.5 tackles for loss.

Vs. Mountain West conference: One tackle.

Vs. Independents: Five tackles.

Vs. non-majors: Four tackles, 2.5 tackles for loss, two sacks.

By team:

Chattanooga (0-2 following game): Four tackles, 2.5 tackles for loss, and two sacks.

Oklahoma (12-2 following game): Six tackles, two tackles for loss, two sacks. 

Texas A&M (7-5 following game): Six tackles, 1.5 tackles for loss, 1.5 sacks. 

Texas: (1-1 following game): Five tackles, one tackle for loss, one sack. 

Miami (0-1 following game): Five tackles, one tackle for loss, one sack. 

Florida (6-1 following game): Eight tackles, three tackles for loss, one sack. 

Georgia (11-2 following game): Four tackles, one tackle for loss, one sack.

So as this clearly shows, Chaisson had his best and most productive performances vs. the top teams LSU played, even without any sacks from his dominant game against Clemson. 
Whether it be Florida, Georgia, Clemson or Oklahoma, Chaisson was able to flip the switch against the best offensive tackles he faced each week. There are legitimate concerns with Chaisson's track record of production, injury history, and NFL readiness, but the concerns should be mitigated to a degree by the fact that he still made impact plays in LSU's most important games.

https://www.si.com/nfl/jaguars/news/brea...production

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Great read Eric1, thank you.

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Dude still showing nothing...

Meanwhile Jefferson, Lamb, Higgins, Edwards-Helaire....

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"Treyvon Wallet is elite run defender and better overall than Aidan Hutchinson" 11/11/23

Dude still showing nothing...

Meanwhile Jefferson, Lamb,  Higgins, Edwards-Helaire....

C.J. Henderson has another bad game as well. Meanwhile, Tristan Wirfs, (who I wanted us to draft, has only allowed one sack this season) and the CB I wanted (Jaylon Johnson ) has the 4th most passes defended in the NFL and is allowing a completion rate of only 49%.

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Dude still showing nothing...

Meanwhile Jefferson, Lamb,  Higgins, Edwards-Helaire....

C.J. Henderson has another bad game as well. Meanwhile, Tristan Wirfs, (who I wanted us to draft, has only allowed one sack this season) and the CB I wanted (Jaylon Johnson ) has the 4th most passes defended in the NFL and is allowing a completion rate of only 49%.

Another Gators first round bust.

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Dude still showing nothing...

Meanwhile Jefferson, Lamb,  Higgins, Edwards-Helaire....

C.J. Henderson has another bad game as well. Meanwhile, Tristan Wirfs, (who I wanted us to draft, has only allowed one sack this season) and the CB I wanted (Jaylon Johnson ) has the 4th most passes defended in the NFL and is allowing a completion rate of only 49%.

Henderson really didn't have a bad game.  The PI was a bs call and the TD he gave up he was looking for the flag.  Really the only 2 plays he gave up and neither should of even happened

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Much better clip that includes all of the reps.

https://twitter.com/PFF_AustinGayle/stat...l-draft%2F

Dave Caldwell thinks his only deficiency is a bad set of spikes.

How can anyone watch that set of plays and think "this is exactly what we need"

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Too early to tell if he is a bust or not but Chaisson was a needs pick. Something Dave has dont since he got here and why he's about to get fired. Dave is a needs drafter for the most part

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Arians said it perfect, needs drafting gets you fired

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Calais Campbell had zero sacks his rookie year. Wasnt a fan of the pick but its way to early to call him a bust. Next year will tell us alot more

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Dude still showing nothing...

Meanwhile Jefferson, Lamb,  Higgins, Edwards-Helaire....

C.J. Henderson has another bad game as well. Meanwhile, Tristan Wirfs, (who I wanted us to draft, has only allowed one sack this season) and the CB I wanted (Jaylon Johnson ) has the 4th most passes defended in the NFL and is allowing a completion rate of only 49%.

Wirfs is a right tackle with Brady as his QB... Jaylon Johnson is playing on a MUCH better defense overall. 
Also the first cornerback taken that was supposed to be the best CB in the draft by a wide margin has not been playing well... I mean... situations matter.

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C.J. Henderson has another bad game as well. Meanwhile, Tristan Wirfs, (who I wanted us to draft, has only allowed one sack this season) and the CB I wanted (Jaylon Johnson ) has the 4th most passes defended in the NFL and is allowing a completion rate of only 49%.

Henderson really didn't have a bad game.  The PI was a bs call and the TD he gave up he was looking for the flag.  Really the only 2 plays he gave up and neither should of even happened

This. Henderson will be fine, playing a bit nicked up and there will be some lumps as a rookie, especially with minimal pass rush.

Chaisson needs an offseason to put on weight, and tbh he's a 3-4 OLB, we need to change defensive schemes to maximize his skillset to fit his on field responsibilities, we're miscasting most of our defensive talent with Wash calling plays.

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Championship Formula:

1) Draft Trevor Lawrence!
2) Play good physical Defense! 
3) Keep 91% of the roster healthy!
4) ???
5) Blank #2
6) CHAMPIONSHIP!!!

Dude still showing nothing...

Meanwhile Jefferson, Lamb,  Higgins, Edwards-Helaire....

C.J. Henderson has another bad game as well. Meanwhile, Tristan Wirfs, (who I wanted us to draft, has only allowed one sack this season) and the CB I wanted (Jaylon Johnson ) has the 4th most passes defended in the NFL and is allowing a completion rate of only 49%.

You wanted Okudah in the first and Henderson has been better. Plus Johnson is going up against the teams number 2 WR and plays on one of the best defenses in the league

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Dude still showing nothing...

Meanwhile Jefferson, Lamb,  Higgins, Edwards-Helaire....

C.J. Henderson has another bad game as well. Meanwhile, Tristan Wirfs, (who I wanted us to draft, has only allowed one sack this season) and the CB I wanted (Jaylon Johnson ) has the 4th most passes defended in the NFL and is allowing a completion rate of only 49%.

You wanted Okudah in the first and Henderson has been better

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Hey guys Chaisson is just a rookie let's wait and see, and also Henderson has been better than Okudah and for some reason this time it matters that it's only been half of one rookie season!

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Hey guys Chaisson is just a rookie let's wait and see, and also Henderson has been better than Okudah and for some reason this time it matters that it's only been half of one rookie season!

Yeah... no one should be claiming Okudah is a bust either... But pointing out that Henderson has performed better than the guy picked ahead of him is a seperate point.

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Hey guys Chaisson is just a rookie let's wait and see, and also Henderson has been better than Okudah and for some reason this time it matters that it's only been half of one rookie season!

Yeah... no one should be claiming Okudah is a bust either... But pointing out that Henderson has performed better than the guy picked ahead of him is a seperate point.

Exactly

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