Can't wait till Minshew silences the doubters

I hope he does. People are being pretty disrespectful towards him and the Jags in general.

The reality is the NFL is difficult to predict year to year, but these seems like a moderately difficult schedule from where we sit now. Obviously, winning early to build some confidence and momentum will be key for a young team. After this past decade, I understand the pessimism, but if Yannick plays and Allen progresses (he will),  we could have an elite pass rush on defense with a highly solidified linebacker core. Losing Bouye hurts (I would have held onto him), but he wasn’t really a difference maker last year. Couple that with all the new red zone targets minshew has to work with and a RB in his final year of contract, and I think we may see more out of this team than most expect. That said, I’m a hopeless optimist.

I agree with this I’m dumbfounded at why everyone thinks we are gonna be so bad and way worse than last year makes no sense to me. Because we lost an aging and declining bouye and Campbell? Well how about that we added Schobert, henderson, Chaisson, laviska, Eifert, and allot of run stuffers up front. Also some underrated role players like Thompson. Then add in the progression of minshew in his second season plus Allen and Taylor. Not sure why this team looks so much worse than a team that should have won 7 or 8 games if trash Nick foles didn’t start 4 of them

I think a lot of this is because there a several people that like the dump on the Jags (like the media) or they are hoping that the Jags fail to get Trevor Lawrence. (Like some Jags fans want). They are trying to name and claim catastrophic failure for the Jags. Which is what a 2-14, 3-13 record would be, like I've seen some people predict. Some of the same people said that they just knew that Nick would outplay Gardner in the starting position and was predicting that Andy Dalton would come and take the starting position away from GM as well. A lot of times when people make these types of predictions it doesn't go the way they want it to. Especially when it's this heavy handed.

I don't think that the team is that bad. I don't think that the team is nowhere near as bad as people is making it out to be.  There is definitely some nice talent on this team and I could see them winning some games, (and more than 2 or 3. Or four).  

If people want to guess a lower number for the the Jags win total, I think predicting four or five wins would be a better guess, than 2 or 3 games. I think that 2 or 3 games is too low of a prediction. Though, I personally could see the Jags winning more than four or five games.

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Like i said before we won't have to worry about the jags record this year. NFL will end up canceling the season.  It not that i want them to,i am concered for the players health and safety from the virus.

if you all rember there was one person here who said from the start foles was highly overrated,which was me.  

If there ends up being a season i will give my prediction after 3rd pre-season game if its played.

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note titans owner means im undeafted againest them. 

Can't wait till Minshew silences the doubters

I hope he does. People are being pretty disrespectful towards him and the Jags in general.

I agree with this I’m dumbfounded at why everyone thinks we are gonna be so bad and way worse than last year makes no sense to me. Because we lost an aging and declining bouye and Campbell? Well how about that we added Schobert, henderson, Chaisson, laviska, Eifert, and allot of run stuffers up front. Also some underrated role players like Thompson. Then add in the progression of minshew in his second season plus Allen and Taylor. Not sure why this team looks so much worse than a team that should have won 7 or 8 games if trash Nick foles didn’t start 4 of them

I think a lot of this is because there a several people that like the dump on the Jags (like the media) or they are hoping that the Jags fail to get Trevor Lawrence. (Like some Jags fans want). They are trying to name and claim catastrophic failure for the Jags. Which is what a 2-14, 3-13 record would be, like I've seen some people predict. Some of the same people said that they just knew that Nick would outplay Gardner in the starting position and was predicting that Andy Dalton would come and take the starting position away from GM as well. A lot of times when people make these types of predictions it doesn't go the way they want it to. Especially when it's this heavy handed.

I don't think that the team is that bad. I don't think that the team is nowhere near as bad as people is making it out to be.  There is definitely some nice talent on this team and I could see them winning some games, (and more than 2 or 3. Or four).  

If people want to guess a lower number for the the Jags win total, I think predicting four or five wins would be a better guess, than 2 or 3 games. I think that 2 or 3 games is too low of a prediction. Though, I personally could see the Jags winning more than four or five games.

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Or people are predicting the Jags to be bad because.... they’re almost always bad? So until you see actual evidence that they are better, they will remain bad.

Relying on rookies and 2nd year players at vital positions rarely, if ever, translates to wins. Not to mention all these rookies won’t have an off season like we are used to.

When some of us are predicting the Jags to be bad, it’s looking at it objectively without the teal shades. There’s a reason Vegas has the Jags predicted as the #1 pick.

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First off I’m not as worried about record as about how we look on the field/are we developing.

Second off, I’m not really in favor of squeaking by in the hopes of having a favorable schedule, which is nearly impossible to predict anyway. If the schedule looks tough, good. Bring on the competition so we can see them first-hand for scheming purposes and experience them first-hand for young player development purposes.

We’re the youngest team in the league, I’m not expecting a Super Bowl run. Let’s just get these kids some experience.

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I hope he does. People are being pretty disrespectful towards him and the Jags in general.


I think a lot of this is because there a several people that like the dump on the Jags (like the media) or they are hoping that the Jags fail to get Trevor Lawrence. (Like some Jags fans want). They are trying to name and claim catastrophic failure for the Jags. Which is what a 2-14, 3-13 record would be, like I've seen some people predict. Some of the same people said that they just knew that Nick would outplay Gardner in the starting position and was predicting that Andy Dalton would come and take the starting position away from GM as well. A lot of times when people make these types of predictions it doesn't go the way they want it to. Especially when it's this heavy handed.

I don't think that the team is that bad. I don't think that the team is nowhere near as bad as people is making it out to be.  There is definitely some nice talent on this team and I could see them winning some games, (and more than 2 or 3. Or four).  

If people want to guess a lower number for the the Jags win total, I think predicting four or five wins would be a better guess, than 2 or 3 games. I think that 2 or 3 games is too low of a prediction. Though, I personally could see the Jags winning more than four or five games.

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Or people are predicting the Jags to be bad because.... they’re almost always bad? So until you see actual evidence that they are better, they will remain bad.

Relying on rookies and 2nd year players at vital positions rarely, if ever, translates to wins. Not to mention all these rookies won’t have an off season like we are used to.

When some of us are predicting the Jags to be bad, it’s looking at it objectively without the teal shades. There’s a reason Vegas has the Jags predicted as the #1 pick.

I hope we are out of contention for the number one pick by the bye week.

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We're in a tiny media market and have been an absolute clown show for the 10 years. We're deserving of respect when we put together a sustained run of success.

It's the clown show part. If the Jaguars had drafted Mahomes and were in the beginning of a 15 year run of dominance we'd be getting 4 or 5 primetime games a year. The Jaguars don't get primetime games because we're the equivalent of the Browns for the last few decades. Only the team's hardcore fans are interested in seeing such sub par football and only because of our emotional attachment to the team.

And yet, the Cleveland Browns had more Primetime games last 2 years then we had in a decade and they haven't gone to the playoffs since 2001 nor had a winning season since 2007. Explain that to me.

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 So has the Cincinnati Bengals and they got  2 Primetime games because of Joe freaking Burrow  like anybody cares about him.

Despite the lack of playoff wins the bengals have been significantly better than the Jags this decade and people would rather watch the #1 overall pick (after one of the best college seasons ever) play 
Take off the teal glasses. No Jags fan can cry about not getting prime time games after the product we have delivered year in year out

Let me get you together my overseas brother because how dare you try to insult me because I want my team to be respected like everyone else in the NFL. Teal colored glasses? Please I got us going 2 and 14 if not 3 or 13 but if you don't think the NFL treat us like Charlotte Bobcats of the NBA you're wrong. If you're man enough just admit that is about big markets and we get shafted every year because we are small market team. Name me another franchise that get treated the way we do from the NFL?

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Despite the lack of playoff wins the bengals have been significantly better than the Jags this decade and people would rather watch the #1 overall pick (after one of the best college seasons ever) play 
Take off the teal glasses. No Jags fan can cry about not getting prime time games after the product we have delivered year in year out

Thank you!

No one cares about the Jags because they haven’t been good for 10 years.

Nobody cared when they were good.  Who cares about night games?  They're a disadvantage and disrupt a team's regular 'work week'.  I would bet that the players would prefer to play all of their games on Sundays and in the United States.  The NFL powers that be are money-grubbers and all the night games do is line their pockets.  Case and point.

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Like i said before we won't have to worry about the jags record this year. NFL will end up canceling the season.  It not that i want them to,i am concered for the players health and safety from the virus.

if you all rember there was one person here who said from the start foles was highly overrated,which was me.  

If there ends up being a season i will give my prediction after 3rd pre-season game if its played.

Ummmmm....no.  You weren't even close to the only one.  I started a thread before they ever signed him that I didn't want him and there were a hell of a lot of others that didn't want him.  So you remember incorrectly.

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It's the clown show part. If the Jaguars had drafted Mahomes and were in the beginning of a 15 year run of dominance we'd be getting 4 or 5 primetime games a year. The Jaguars don't get primetime games because we're the equivalent of the Browns for the last few decades. Only the team's hardcore fans are interested in seeing such sub par football and only because of our emotional attachment to the team.

And yet, the Cleveland Browns had more Primetime games last 2 years then we had in a decade and they haven't gone to the playoffs since 2001 nor had a winning season since 2007. Explain that to me.

They had 10 first round picks over a 5 year span and some of those guys were expected to make a big splash. 
The league anticipated a surge from them. Didn't happen outside of a 7 win season. It is a talented roster though. 
This year, they are in a division with the Ravens - who will get lots of attention - so they have a Mon. night game vs them. 

If Mayfield gets on track in the absence of Kitchens plodding offense  - the current Browns' offense could be very fun to watch. 
OBJ, Jarvis Landry, Njoku, Hooper, Chubb, Kareem Hunt, etc

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There will be a season to those doubting that. The NFL is too important to the American psyche for us to not play. Whether or not there are fans in the stands is the only real question. This may depend on either the virus mutating to a weaker strain earlier than expected, a vaccine ready by mid season, or the development of new treatments (monoclonal antibodies possibly) with the stadium at half capacity.

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I hate playing Indy in Week 17.  It's always meaningless and they let us win to screw our draft position.  Had we lost to them in 2019, we would have picked 6 and got Derrick Brown (DT Auburn -- the next warren sapp).  Then prior to that, we beat them and they ended up with the Number 1 pick -- Andrew Luck !!!   they are smarter than us.

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I hope he does. People are being pretty disrespectful towards him and the Jags in general.


I think a lot of this is because there a several people that like the dump on the Jags (like the media) or they are hoping that the Jags fail to get Trevor Lawrence. (Like some Jags fans want). They are trying to name and claim catastrophic failure for the Jags. Which is what a 2-14, 3-13 record would be, like I've seen some people predict. Some of the same people said that they just knew that Nick would outplay Gardner in the starting position and was predicting that Andy Dalton would come and take the starting position away from GM as well. A lot of times when people make these types of predictions it doesn't go the way they want it to. Especially when it's this heavy handed.

I don't think that the team is that bad. I don't think that the team is nowhere near as bad as people is making it out to be.  There is definitely some nice talent on this team and I could see them winning some games, (and more than 2 or 3. Or four).  

If people want to guess a lower number for the the Jags win total, I think predicting four or five wins would be a better guess, than 2 or 3 games. I think that 2 or 3 games is too low of a prediction. Though, I personally could see the Jags winning more than four or five games.

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There’s a reason Vegas has the Jags predicted as the #1 pick.

How many times are you gonna regurgitate this info? lol

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It's the clown show part. If the Jaguars had drafted Mahomes and were in the beginning of a 15 year run of dominance we'd be getting 4 or 5 primetime games a year. The Jaguars don't get primetime games because we're the equivalent of the Browns for the last few decades. Only the team's hardcore fans are interested in seeing such sub par football and only because of our emotional attachment to the team.

And yet, the Cleveland Browns had more Primetime games last 2 years then we had in a decade and they haven't gone to the playoffs since 2001 nor had a winning season since 2007. Explain that to me.

Why does Baker Mayfield have tons of national advertising spots? I don't know why, but there has been a concerted effort to make the browns happen recently. They definitely have better perception nationally than the Jags right now, probably at least partially because the Jags still have the same regime in charge that has flailed for years.

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And yet, the Cleveland Browns had more Primetime games last 2 years then we had in a decade and they haven't gone to the playoffs since 2001 nor had a winning season since 2007. Explain that to me.

They had 10 first round picks over a 5 year span and some of those guys were expected to make a big splash. 
The league anticipated a surge from them. Didn't happen outside of a 7 win season. It is a talented roster though. 
This year, they are in a division with the Ravens - who will get lots of attention - so they have a Mon. night game vs them. 

If Mayfield gets on track in the absence of Kitchens plodding offense  - the current Browns' offense could be very fun to watch. 
OBJ, Jarvis Landry, Njoku, Hooper, Chubb, Kareem Hunt, etc

Let me say I agree with everything you are saying so that's makes my point that is not about wins and losses. I guess my frustration is the reason why we're not treated fairly by the NFL even after the 2017 season when we went to the AFC Championship game.

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Despite the lack of playoff wins the bengals have been significantly better than the Jags this decade and people would rather watch the #1 overall pick (after one of the best college seasons ever) play 
Take off the teal glasses. No Jags fan can cry about not getting prime time games after the product we have delivered year in year out

Let me get you together my overseas brother because how dare you try to insult me because I want my team to be respected like everyone else in the NFL. Teal colored glasses? Please I got us going 2 and 14 if not 3 or 13 but if you don't think the NFL treat us like Charlotte Bobcats of the NBA you're wrong. If you're man enough just admit that is about big markets and we get shafted every year because we are small market team. Name me another franchise that get treated the way we do from the NFL?

being insulted about nobody wanting to watch a team that's had a top 10 pick every year but 1 this decade is a waste of energy. Add in theres no new HC/FO/shiny new first round QB + small market and you have a non viable prime time option. 

No we get shafted because we are a horrible franchise. The year we were actually good the national media was all over us weekly

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I hate playing Indy in Week 17.  It's always meaningless and they let us win to screw our draft position.  Had we lost to them in 2019, we would have picked 6 and got Derrick Brown (DT Auburn -- the next warren sapp).  Then prior to that, we beat them and they ended up with the Number 1 pick -- Andrew Luck !!!   they are smarter than us.

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Let me get you together my overseas brother because how dare you try to insult me becaus I want my team to be respected like everyone else in the NFL. Teal colored glasses? Please I got us going 2 and 14 if not 3 or 13 but if you don't think the NFL treat us like Charlotte Bobcats of the NBA you're wrong. If you're man enough just admit that is about big markets and we get shafted every year because we are small market team. Name me another franchise that get treated the way we do from the NFL?

being insulted about nobody wanting to watch a team that's had a top 10 pick every year but 1 this decade is a waste of energy. Add in theres no new HC/FO/shiny new first round QB + small market and you have a non viable prime time option. 

No we get shafted because we are a horrible franchise. The year we were actually good the national media was all over us weekly

Explain Cleveland or Tampa Bay as a football team before Tom Brady and do us a favor just be honest about the situation. I just named two teams that had the same type of success or lack thereof than us and yet, they get treated better than us which is not right.

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Hell, I barely want to watch this team

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Always someone whining about no respect for this crappy team lol.

I think it was 2 years ago when they Titans just rolled over us on TNF, sure everyone wants to see that.

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I am a fan, not a cheerleader.

Always someone whining about no respect for this crappy team lol.

I think it was 2 years ago when they Titans just rolled over us on TNF, sure everyone wants to see that.

And last year we crushed the Titans on Thursday night.

It's irrelevant.

Jacksonville is a small market team that nobody outside of this immediate area wants to see.  I don't care how bad or good they are.  NFL is about bottom-line.

I don't get why some people get their panties in a twist about it.  Big [BLEEP] deal.

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Always someone whining about no respect for this crappy team lol.

I think it was 2 years ago when they Titans just rolled over us on TNF, sure everyone wants to see that.

You are the same troll that acts like your word is law and no one gives a damn about your opinion on here. Get over yourself brother.

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