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Garoppolo

#21

Quote:Actually a lot of people knew about him 3 months ago, stop patting yourself on the back.

 

And what you say makes no sense anyway.  Why did you "love" Garappolo 3 months ago if his ceiling is your coined term QB "purgatory"?  Why even draft him at all?  Even as a day 3 pick, it's a waste of a pick if you think his CEILING is QB purgatory.
QB purgatory just means a mid level starting QB. Getting a mid level starting QB in the 4th round or later is really good value. Getting it before that doesn't move the needle for me. 

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#23

Quote:QB purgatory just means a mid level starting QB. Getting a mid level starting QB in the 4th round or later is really good value. Getting it before that doesn't move the needle for me. 
 

I'll be overjoyed with him in the 4th.

3rd? Not as much but I'd be OK with it.

2nd? No way did he show he's worth that.

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#24

Quote:QB purgatory just means a mid level starting QB. Getting a mid level starting QB in the 4th round or later is really good value. Getting it before that doesn't move the needle for me. 
 

Getting a mid level starting QB in the 4th round or later is also very rare. 

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#25

With the all-star games, Garoppolo played himself into the 2nd or 3rd round according to the broadcast analysts and Jeremiah, the former scout, covering the Senior Bowl. If the Jags elect not to take a QB in the 1st or 2nd round, I would be an advocate to see this guy picked up with the early 3rd round pick. I would rather see a developing rookie with some possibility than Henne at QB.
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#26

Quote:Getting a mid level starting QB in the 4th round or later is also very rare. 
 

That's very true. 

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#27

I would also be OK with drafting Tajh Boyd in the later rounds.  He reminds me a little of Garrard.  Thick, can run, but is not a consistent passer.  Give him some time to learn like Garrard had and we could have a solid QB.


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#28

Quote:I would also be OK with drafting Tajh Boyd in the later rounds.  He reminds me a little of Garrard.  Thick, can run, but is not a consistent passer.  Give him some time to learn like Garrard had and we could have a solid QB.
makes a lot of sense, if we could get another Garrard in the 4th or 5th round, I'd be OK with that

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#29

Never been a fan of Garopollo, and don't really see what everyone else sees in him.  Then again... I never liked Matt Scott much either.


I was wrong about Trent Baalke. 
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Thank you. This is one of my new favorite things.
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#31

I think as of right now his ceiling is that of Dalton's. Can get you to the playoffs but not elite. I think with some work he could possibly be better than Dalton. Heck if we can get a Dalton type QB in the fourth im fine. Anything is better than Ghenne
"Expect for the best. Prepare for the worst. Capitalize on what comes."

 

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#32

Quote:I would also be OK with drafting Tajh Boyd in the later rounds.  He reminds me a little of Garrard.  Thick, can run, but is not a consistent passer.  Give him some time to learn like Garrard had and we could have a solid QB.
 

Man, how sad is it that we're pining for David Garrard now?  Not that I disagree, I just...man...

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#33

Quote:I would also be OK with drafting Tajh Boyd in the later rounds.  He reminds me a little of Garrard.  Thick, can run, but is not a consistent passer.  Give him some time to learn like Garrard had and we could have a solid QB.
After watching his inconsistency as a passer, I would not use any draft pick on Tajh Boyd. A QBs ability to run is nice, but secondary to his overall throwing competencies.
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#34

Quote:Never been a fan of Garopollo, and don't really see what everyone else sees in him. Then again... I never liked Matt Scott much either.


Same. Saw him crouch down (like Gabbert) and just run away with no pass rush. Automatic no.
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#35

I like him in the late fourth  -  but I don't get the impression he's Caldwell's guy.  And that's OK with me.  There are a few guys I definitely like better.

 

I see why people want to compare him to Gabbert - but I think it's a really flimsy comparison.   He stood tall in the pocket with pressure many times in the cut-ups I watched. That outweighs two or three plays that display poor reaction to pressure in my book.  

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#36

Quote:After watching his inconsistency as a passer, I would not use any draft pick on Tajh Boyd. A QBs ability to run is nice, but secondary to his overall throwing competencies.
You're telling me that nothing could prompt you to take a late-round flier on a three-year starter who improved every year at an ACC school and has the physical skills needed to be an NFL QB? I'd take Boyd in the fifth round in a heartbeat, because those physical skills can't be taught. The mental skills sometimes can and sometimes can't, but with a fifth-round pick, you've got the luxury of time. You've also got the luxury of knowing that virtually anyone you choose there (aside from kickers and punters, maybe) has a much better chance of bouncing around practice squads for a few years before going into timeshare sales than they do of becoming an NFL starter.

 

All that being said, Boyd is the kind of player who's going to be overdrafted on measurables. Anyone remember Marques Tuiasosopo? You know, before the whole Manti Te'o thing? Boyd reminds me a lot of Tuiasosopo, and Tuiasosopo had no business going before the fourth round. None whatsoever, but the Raiders jumped in and drafted him in the second round because of his measurables. He accomplished very little in the NFL, certainly nothing worth his draft status.

 

Garoppolo, on the other hand, seems like he's on the other end of the spectrum. He seems like the type who should be (and will be) drafted in the fourth or fifth round, despite his being talked up now as a third-round pick or earlier. If he lasts until the fifth round and the Jaguars do draft two QBs, why not? You could do a lot worse for a developmental backup than Garoppolo or Boyd. But if we're talking about an early-round pick, thanks, but I'll pass.

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#37

Quote:QB purgatory just means a mid level starting QB. Getting a mid level starting QB in the 4th round or later is really good value. Getting it before that doesn't move the needle for me. 
 

You know, this is around the perimeters I see it.  I would love to see the Jaguars take two QBs if they take one at the top of the first and I would love for Jimmy G to have been that 2nd guy they took later in the draft.  Teddy in the first and someone like Jimmy in the 4th.  

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#38

Quote:Hey guys.. Still getting my feet wet on this message board, but huge fan!

 

Anyways I was wondering what some of your views on Garoppolo are.

I would love to see us go defensive in the first two rounds.. possibly trade down if Clowney is not available and grab Barr then add another DE/OLB in the 2nd round to help build up our defense.

 

After that either trade up/ pray that Garoppolo is available.

 

I think it would be good; we can resign Henne and let him take some hits behind our rebuilding O-line while we draft/develop our line and our QB. We aren't really hoping for playoffs next year and a .500 record would even be mind blowing. So we could take a year getting Garoppolo used to the spead of the NFL and seeing what he can do.

 

I see this as a low risk/ high reward potential.. What do you guys think?
I like this, save the Barr pick, I'd rather Mack, then Dee Ford in the 2nd if he's still there.  Wouldn't mind Henne starting the season after being more comfortable in Fisch's offense, throwing the rook in under fire in the case Henne looks bad to awful.

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