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Another jump to conclusions without all the facts...

(This post was last modified: 08-26-2020, 03:42 PM by TrivialPursuit.)

(08-26-2020, 03:39 PM)MojoKing Wrote:
(08-26-2020, 03:31 PM)TrivialPursuit Wrote: All that needs to happen?

Stop rioting over criminals and child molesters. Stay home.

If you want to protest, make a sign and walk the streets in solidarity. Don't scream in people's faces. Don't burn. Don't loot.

I can’t believe the Trumpian Party has duped so low that they’re using child molestation as an attack. It’s disgusting. Youre disgusting. It’s like saying you’d like to date your own daughter... oh wait... your leader already said that too. 

STOP Spreading Lies! I’m willing to debate immigration, foreign policy, or whatever. 

But we can’t have a civil conservation If youre spreading lie and hate

Bro... Jacob Blake's arrest warrant was for sexual assault on a 14 year old.

I'm tired of the morons.. no one bothers to research anything. At all. They believe the narrative. Idiots. Just plain idiots.
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(08-26-2020, 02:46 PM)TrivialPursuit Wrote:
(08-26-2020, 02:42 PM)rollerjag Wrote: You state this as fact, when it's only been alleged. Given this "rationale", Trump was guilty, too, right?

Besides, the toxicology facts do not support this charge. Do some research, this will get blown out of the water. The old racist "drug crazed Negro" mantra won't work.

I read the 33 page autopsy report... and watched the 37 minute video.

No damage to his neck, larynx or hyoid bone.. no damage to his vertebrae... no damage to the muscles surrounding the neck. Had fentanyl and norafentanyl and methamphetamine in his system.

They are all going to be acquitted.

You know it's possible to constrict the airway without damaging the solid structures of the airway, right?
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(08-26-2020, 03:42 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(08-26-2020, 02:46 PM)TrivialPursuit Wrote: I read the 33 page autopsy report... and watched the 37 minute video.

No damage to his neck, larynx or hyoid bone.. no damage to his vertebrae... no damage to the muscles surrounding the neck. Had fentanyl and norafentanyl and methamphetamine in his system.

They are all going to be acquitted.

You know it's possible to constrict the airway without damaging the solid structures of the airway, right?

Says no murder conviction... ever. Ya know.. except for with a pillow.

9 minutes of allegedly pressing on someone's neck with any force will damage or bruise the muscles or skin around the neck. Zero.
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(08-26-2020, 03:08 PM)TrivialPursuit Wrote:
(08-26-2020, 03:06 PM)JackCity Wrote: The facts are he crossed state lines to cosplay as a pig and ended up killing people, as pigs are want to do. Hopefully he enjoys prison

You know nothing about our laws. He will get charged for having a weapon, yes, because he's not old enough to have one.

The rest will be silently thrown out. Every single one of his actions was self-defense as the videos already proved.


Actually that isn't true at the federal level, and individual states can (and do) have different laws. They can have additional, or more stringent laws, but aren't allowed to go under the federal level.



"Minimum Age for Gun Possession: Subject to limited exceptions*, federal law prohibits the possession of a handgun or handgun ammunition by any person under the age of 18. Federal law provides no minimum age for the possession of long guns or long gun ammunition."


https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=...MzvUb5QfJ1

Edit: However, Wisconsin does have an 18 yo limit to posses a long gun, and Illinois has a 21 yo limit to own a long gun.  The part that I find confusing is an 18 year old person can purchase an AR but not a 22 pistol (Federal). Seems bass akwards to me.
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The first guy that he shot threw a Molotov cocktail at at the shooter as the shooter ran away. The shooter ended that threat quickly and continued running toward police. As he’s running toward police, he tripped and fell to the ground. The mob is chasing him and shouting that they need to “beat him up”. He’s also getting hit by people chasing him.

He falls to the ground and the then a dude with a skateboard hit the shooter in the head with the skateboard. He’s shot. The next guy tries to stomp him. He’s shot at but I’m not sure he’s shot. The next guy pulls his handgun and charges him. He’s shot in the arm.

Meanwhile, people were also shooting at him.

Every shooting from that 17-year-old was recorded on video. Every person that was shot tried to seriously injure or kill him. In no way whatsoever we’re these shootings illegal, and I’d bet you that the police rushed to arrest him without some of these videos and only on the testimony of the rioters which had numerous witnesses that probably lied to them.
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(08-26-2020, 04:23 PM)JagNGeorgia Wrote: The first guy that he shot threw a Molotov cocktail at at the shooter as the shooter ran away. The shooter ended that threat quickly and continued running toward police. As he’s running toward police, he tripped and fell to the ground. The mob is chasing him and shouting that they need to “beat him up”. He’s also getting hit by people chasing him.

He falls to the ground and the then a dude with a skateboard hit the shooter in the head with the skateboard. He’s shot. The next guy tries to stomp him. He’s shot at but I’m not sure he’s shot. The next guy pulls his handgun and charges him. He’s shot in the arm.

Meanwhile, people were also shooting at him.

Every shooting from that 17-year-old was recorded on video. Every person that was shot tried to seriously injure or kill him. In no way whatsoever we’re these shootings illegal, and I’d bet you that the police rushed to arrest him without some of these videos and only on the testimony of the rioters which had numerous witnesses that probably lied to them.

Nobody threw a molotov cocktail at him
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Police scanner audio recorded on 23 Aug. 2020 in Kenosha, Wis. indicates a woman called 911 to report Jacob Blake was at her home and wasn’t supposed to be, and had stolen her keys. Responding police were made aware of Blake’s arrest warrant. Court records show a warrant was issued for a felony sex crime charge and more. Blake brawled with cops before reaching inside his car and was shot. He also has a history of assaulting police and violently resisting arrest. Blake survived the shooting but the incident has sparked mass BLM-inspired deadly violence in Kenosha.
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(08-26-2020, 05:17 PM)JackCity Wrote:  
(08-26-2020, 04:23 PM)JagNGeorgia Wrote: The first guy that he shot threw a Molotov cocktail at at the shooter as the shooter ran away. The shooter ended that threat quickly and continued running toward police. As he’s running toward police, he tripped and fell to the ground. The mob is chasing him and shouting that they need to “beat him up”. He’s also getting hit by people chasing him.

He falls to the ground and the then a dude with a skateboard hit the shooter in the head with the skateboard. He’s shot. The next guy tries to stomp him. He’s shot at but I’m not sure he’s shot. The next guy pulls his handgun and charges him. He’s shot in the arm.

Meanwhile, people were also shooting at him.

Every shooting from that 17-year-old was recorded on video. Every person that was shot tried to seriously injure or kill him. In no way whatsoever we’re these shootings illegal, and I’d bet you that the police rushed to arrest him without some of these videos and only on the testimony of the rioters which had numerous witnesses that probably lied to them.

Nobody threw a molotov cocktail at him

I’ve seen that it was a Molotov or a bag on fire. I can’t tell either way. If it’s getting thrown at me, I don’t want to wait to find out. The guy that was shot was chasing him, and whatever he threw at weight on it. He wasn’t throwing it to make the shooter feel comfortable.
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(08-26-2020, 05:30 PM)Jagwired Wrote:

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Police scanner audio recorded on 23 Aug. 2020 in Kenosha, Wis. indicates a woman called 911 to report Jacob Blake was at her home and wasn’t supposed to be, and had stolen her keys. Responding police were made aware of Blake’s arrest warrant. Court records show a warrant was issued for a felony sex crime charge and more. Blake brawled with cops before reaching inside his car and was shot. He also has a history of assaulting police and violently resisting arrest. Blake survived the shooting but the incident has sparked mass BLM-inspired deadly violence in Kenosha.

He clearly was jogging.  Stop being racist
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(08-26-2020, 05:35 PM)JagNGeorgia Wrote:
(08-26-2020, 05:17 PM)JackCity Wrote:  

Nobody threw a molotov cocktail at him

I’ve seen that it was a Molotov or a bag on fire. I can’t tell either way. If it’s getting thrown at me, I don’t want to wait to find out. The guy that was shot was chasing him, and whatever he threw at weight on it. He wasn’t throwing it to make the shooter feel comfortable.

It was a plastic bag with a bottle of coke in it
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(This post was last modified: 08-26-2020, 05:53 PM by JackCity.)

The bag wasn't even on fire

https://twitter.com/_db155/status/129858...64580?s=19

https://twitter.com/JadeCamus96/status/1...56736?s=19
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(This post was last modified: 08-26-2020, 06:34 PM by JagFan81.)

Heres where you guys lose me.

The cops are justified shooting Jacob Blake because he could have been reaching for a gun

Then have a white kid who has just shot 3 people, with an AR-15 strapped to his chest, walks past police and goes home.

That's the issue.
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No. That's not THE issue. How many blacks have been killed by cops at riots? I'll wait.

Let's try not to equivocate these two instances.
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(08-26-2020, 06:00 PM)JagFan81 Wrote: Heres where you guys lose me.

The cops are justified shooting Jacob Blake because he could have been reaching for a gun

Then have a white kid who has just shot 3 people, with an AR-15 strapped to his chest, walks past police and goes home.

That's the issue.
Were cops aware or not? If they saw it, that is terrible. The issue with the cops is they have been told to stand down. They are doing mostly nothing but standing there.

People are running around there all the time. It is legal to carry a gun. Unless you saw it happen, a cop wouldn't know anything was wrong.

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Now confirmed Blake had a knife.

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/loca...639429002/
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(08-26-2020, 08:28 PM)Jagwired Wrote: Now confirmed Blake had a knife.

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/loca...639429002/

Did he have a gun in his car?
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(08-26-2020, 05:53 PM)JackCity Wrote: The bag wasn't even on fire

https://twitter.com/_db155/status/129858...64580?s=19

https://twitter.com/JadeCamus96/status/1...56736?s=19

Fair enough. I was wrong. 

It still doesn’t change the fact that the dude was trying to attack him. The guy threw it at him and continued chasing him. Just because you’re willing to be attacked, it doesn’t take the right to defend yourself from a mob. 

(08-26-2020, 06:00 PM)JagFan81 Wrote: Heres where you guys lose me.

The cops are justified shooting Jacob Blake because he could have been reaching for a gun

Then have a white kid who has just shot 3 people, with an AR-15 strapped to his chest, walks past police and goes home.

That's the issue.

Well, he was arrested, but what does their race have anything to do with what happened? One had a knife and was resisting arrest. The other was being attacked by a mob.
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(08-26-2020, 08:35 PM)JagFan81 Wrote: [quote pid='1314955' dateline='1598479208']
Heres where you guys lose me.

The cops are justified shooting Jacob Blake because he could have been reaching for a gun

Then have a white kid who has just shot 3 people, with an AR-15 strapped to his chest, walks past police and goes home.

That's the issue.

Well, he was arrested, but what does their race have anything to do with what happened? One had a knife and was resisting arrest. The other was being attacked by a mob.
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That's what the whole BLM movement was about. Black people feel they get treated differently to white people by the police. 

Not saying this is true for every case but it's a pretty clear example of the difference they claim.
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(08-26-2020, 08:28 PM)Jagwired Wrote: Now confirmed Blake had a knife.

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/loca...639429002/

on the floorboard of his car. They are not saying what might have been in his hand when he was tussling and getting tazed
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